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Cesarz_Pl #1 Posted 23 November 2017 - 04:55 PM

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Just wanted to know more or less when can I/we expect a 2.0 patch with a well balanced game with multiple objectives like in WoWp? Because, so far, World of Tanks is a poor and boring sister of World of Warplanes, with terrible matchmaking and unbalanced tanks. You choose a low tier tank, you enter the battle, you get quickly destroyed with a HE shell or by a tank which is 2 tiers above ( IS vs Chi-Nu lol3) and you get back to the garage. You mentioned garage battles like a year ago or something and nothing happened ever since. It's so boring to be a cannon fodder in this game. Why does this game still have matchmaking /+2? You have soo many players that you could easily do /+1 only (even with bots).

Just my (new player's) opinion.

Edited by Cesarz_Pl, 23 November 2017 - 05:15 PM.


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It needs to be 1.0 first

alienslive #3 Posted 23 November 2017 - 05:05 PM

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View Posthappyal, on 23 November 2017 - 03:59 PM, said:

It needs to be 1.0 first

 

yes, current version is 0.9.x

SuedKAT #4 Posted 23 November 2017 - 05:05 PM

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View Posthappyal, on 23 November 2017 - 04:59 PM, said:

It needs to be 1.0 first

 

Hehe that made me giggle, yeah WoT haven't left BETA yet and since it was released in 2010 and we only now have reached 0.9 it's most likely 8-10 years more until we reach 2.0. I also must admit that I find it funny that we now can use WoWp as a good example vs WoT.

 

Regarding a balanced patch, I don't think we'll ever see that in WoT if I'm honest, they've had years and years to achieve acceptable balance, but even now we have maps, tanks and more that's either under/over powered by a great margin or downright broken. WoT is more "go with the flow" - "play the OP tank of the month" so to speak than being able to expect resonable balance.



ThebaldEagle #5 Posted 23 November 2017 - 05:06 PM

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First the devs dosent read the EU forum try the RU forum you might have better luck there.

and you complain about the +/-2 tierspread dont you remember back when we had far worse like +/-6

 



Cesarz_Pl #6 Posted 23 November 2017 - 05:14 PM

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View PostThebaldEagle, on 23 November 2017 - 05:06 PM, said:

First the devs dosent read the EU forum try the RU forum you might have better luck there.

and you complain about the +/-2 tierspread dont you remember back when we had far worse like +/-6

 

 

I don't speak/write Russian but thanks for info. I'm a new player so I don't (thankfully) remember the matchmaker being so broken. That doesn't mean it's perfect now. Trying to fight O-I when playing T-34 is like..... well, might as well drive into the nearest basin and prey to drown faster than he can catch up and shoot me down.

Edited by Cesarz_Pl, 23 November 2017 - 05:15 PM.


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View PostCesarz_Pl, on 23 November 2017 - 04:55 PM, said:

Just wanted to know more or less when can I/we expect a 2.0 patch with a well balanced game with multiple objectives like in WoWp? Because, so far, World of Tanks is a poor and boring sister of World of Warplanes, with terrible matchmaking and unbalanced tanks. You choose a low tier tank, you enter the battle, you get quickly destroyed with a HE shell or by a tank which is 2 tiers above ( IS vs Chi-Nu lol3) and you get back to the garage. You mentioned garage battles like a year ago or something and nothing happened ever since. It's so boring to be a cannon fodder in this game. Why does this game still have matchmaking /+2? You have soo many players that you could easily do /+1 only.

Just my (new player's) opinion.

 

WOWP got the new mode to make it better with the AI they have. As due to the low population the game has, the game uses mostly AI players to fill the slots. Thus why you can re-spawn even.  It was better then the old modes that relied on human players to work. Thus why you think it's "better". As 90% of the targets you shoot down are AI bots, not real players. If they were all real players, you would complain about the MM there to with higher tier vs lower. And then you would be a cannon fodder as much as here.

 

Why +2 MM. Because +1 MM has proven to be a problem, something WG want's gone. Thus why they are even considering removing it from the IS-6 etc. It's proven to be more of an issue then a fix. Thus why WOWS and WOWP have it. They did remove it from WOWP in 2015 for a bit due to low population to see if it did work. But it just made everything worse, and prolonged waiting times to a point where people complained and begged for +2 again. As some posted screens with a 9m wait time. And they made a new system to have at least 3 human players on each side, and made it +2.

 

View PostCesarz_Pl, on 23 November 2017 - 04:55 PM, said:

. You choose a low tier tank, you enter the battle, you get quickly destroyed with a HE shell or by a tank which is 2 tiers above ( IS vs Chi-Nu lol3) .

 

HE IS? Well tier 5 are not known for their HP pool. There are enough tier 6 guns that can take you out with one or two shots to. If you seek out the IS, or allow the IS to come to you. Something has gone wrong during the battle. Either you are to aggressive, or to passive in +2. I never played the Chi-Nu. But the Chi-Nu-Kai is still a solid support med in a +2 even.

 


Edited by Balc0ra, 23 November 2017 - 05:24 PM.


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View PostCesarz_Pl, on 23 November 2017 - 05:14 PM, said:

I don't speak/write Russian but thanks for info. I'm a new player so I don't (thankfully) remember the matchmaker being so broken.

Actually, it wasn't as bad as you'd think, because the game was quite different back then. I'd actually love to get that back for a few days - except for the OP tanks...

 



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View PostCesarz_Pl, on 23 November 2017 - 05:14 PM, said:

 

I don't speak/write Russian but thanks for info. I'm a new player so I don't (thankfully) remember the matchmaker being so broken. That doesn't mean it's perfect now. Trying to fight O-I when playing T-34 is like..... well, might as well drive into the nearest basin and prey to drown faster than he can catch up and shoot me down.

LOL you complain about this situation? I've 'fighted' that tank with my AMX40, the last few days. Your tank can easily pen him on the side, mine is almost impossible. So learn to adjust before complaining.

 

Besides that, this topic is useless once again, as the developpers, do not read topics like this... sigh.. they never learn.



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Never because Wargaming doesn't in any way benefit from a balanced game with balanced tanks.

 

That would mean that there would be no "flavour of the month" broken vehicle everyone wanted to grind, no incentive, no free XP conversion etc. so Wargaming would be shooting themselves in the foot if they actually balanced the game properly. The game would of course live longer because it would be more enjoyable to the player and less players would be frustrated so much they leave like now, but Wargaming wants all the profit now rather than all the profit over a longer timespan.

 

A balanced game would mean that all tanks would be relative fun to play, there would be no horrible stinkers in each line designed as free-XP sinks, no more weakspots that have more armour than standard ammo of the same tier etc.

 

Same reason why they've not yet completely removed premium ammo and rebalanced all armour against standard ammo, it's better for the game but it would be far worse for their wallet.

 

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Edited by Cobra6, 23 November 2017 - 06:20 PM.


Pvt_Duffer #11 Posted 23 November 2017 - 06:21 PM

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View PostJigabachi, on 23 November 2017 - 04:27 PM, said:

Actually, it wasn't as bad as you'd think, because the game was quite different back then. I'd actually love to get that back for a few days - except for the OP tanks...

 

 

I have previously proposed that for the next April fools day they revert the game to 0.7

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View PostBalc0ra, on 23 November 2017 - 05:20 PM, said:

 

 

Why +2 MM. Because +1 MM has proven to be a problem, something WG want's gone. Thus why they are even considering removing it from the IS-6 etc. It's proven to be more of an issue then a fix. Thus why WOWS and WOWP have it. They did remove it from WOWP in 2015 for a bit due to low population to see if it did work. But it just made everything worse, and prolonged waiting times to a point where people complained and begged for +2 again. As some posted screens with a 9m wait time. And they made a new system to have at least 3 human players on each side, and made it +2.

 

 

 

And when was the +1MM proven to be a problem? Is-6 proves nothing, except that its a tank which isn't competitive in its tier.

 

I think what is proved that does not work is >1 MM for the players... >1MM is only good for WG because if forces players to use premium ammo and  creates an incentive for players to play Tier 9 and X, where you have a -2 +1 MM and a -2 +0 MM...


Edited by pecopad, 23 November 2017 - 07:21 PM.


Pansenmann #13 Posted 23 November 2017 - 08:21 PM

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View PostPvt_Duffer, on 23 November 2017 - 06:21 PM, said:

 

I have previously proposed that for the next April fools day they revert the game to 0.7

 

please, dont.

invisible walls and 5+ arty each team.



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View PostPansenmann, on 23 November 2017 - 07:21 PM, said:

 

please, dont.

invisible walls and 5+ arty each team.

 

But +5MM and Leopard VK1601 highest tier light tank in the game.Tier V !!!!.

the T-50-2!!!

 

(that might have been a later patch)

And AFAIR, max arty tier was only VI.


Edited by Pvt_Duffer, 23 November 2017 - 08:31 PM.


Killer_Tia #15 Posted 23 November 2017 - 09:32 PM

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the MM was better before




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