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Is tier 8 mm foched for non pmm tanks also?


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Tiger_Panzermeyer #1 Posted 24 November 2017 - 12:31 PM

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The discount for tier 8's premiums came to eu and i wanna buy the t54 fp.

Here's the thing i got the is6b for free on na and in 99% of games i saw only tier 8's and 9's,maybe it's because the server population is so small i don't know.

I would like to hear from people who have the t54 fp what kind of mm do you get in let's say 100 battles,because if you get constantly tier 9's and 10's that armor as good as it is(basically tier 9 russian med at tier 8)ain't gonna bounce much and the gun lacks the pen to contest weakspots of most tier 9' and 10's.



Asghaad #2 Posted 24 November 2017 - 12:59 PM

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View PostTiger_Panzermeyer, on 24 November 2017 - 12:31 PM, said:

The discount for tier 8's premiums came to eu and i wanna buy the t54 fp.

Here's the thing i got the is6b for free on na and in 99% of games i saw only tier 8's and 9's,maybe it's because the server population is so small i don't know.

I would like to hear from people who have the t54 fp what kind of mm do you get in let's say 100 battles,because if you get constantly tier 9's and 10's that armor as good as it is(basically tier 9 russian med at tier 8)ain't gonna bounce much and the gun lacks the pen to contest weakspots of most tier 9' and 10's.

 

do NOT buy  T8 premium that doesnt have 200+ pen on standard rounds ... ideally you want 220 standard pen least in current meta

 

T54-1 has the same MM as any other T8 tank right now = 7-8 out of 10 battles are in T10 3-5-7 match where T8s are just free cannonfodder for T9 and T10 tanks.

 

if you want credit grinding machine then get Lorraine 40t (requires skill to do well as its autoloader and made from tissue paper), Defender, Liberte or Scorpion

if you insist on "armored medium tank" then T26E5 (yeah i know its heavy, but it plays like med :) ) or Primo Victoria are your only options right now

and if you absolutely have to have something russian ... well 252U defender is the only one that is useful, rest is just absolute garbage these days.


Edited by Asghaad, 24 November 2017 - 01:00 PM.


Aikl #3 Posted 24 November 2017 - 01:01 PM

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Can't be arsed to give you any samples, because matchmaking for T8 is, essentially, pure crap. Armor is fine against T6/T7 tanks, which you essentially never see when playing T8.

 

There are more sensible alternatives, depending on what your goal with a premium tank is. TDs and Löwe works allright even as bottom-tier, for instance. Wait for the Rudy if you rather need a crew trainer. As mentioned above, Lorraine 40t is rather good too. Doesn't care too much about matchmaking and has, I believe, best-in-class non-premium penetration.


Edited by Aikl, 24 November 2017 - 01:02 PM.


brisha #4 Posted 24 November 2017 - 01:07 PM

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T6 and 8 are crap, terrible in platoon and almost as bad solo. T7 is now terrible in platoon from just bad but solo t7 still seems better although top tier is rare.

T5 and 9 seem to be the best tiers just now. Don't buy any prem tanks until WG get it through their thick heads that the MM is just broken.



Balc0ra #5 Posted 24 November 2017 - 01:26 PM

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IS-6 is worse here. Because limited MM tanks here vs NA "I have the B there to after the events", see more equal tier games then tier 9. Mine do anyway. And in those you are more useless. As a majority of the targets are VK 100.01 and Defenders etc vs spread out like in a tier 9 game. T26E4 is the same. A majority are equal tier games for me vs tier 9.

 

Normal tier 8 prem for me see more tier 9/X games then top tier games "Eu2". But I do better in tier X in some vs others ofc. T34 struggles more then the Lowe, even with the better pen. But the CDA 105 that has 260 pen, won't struggle as much in a support role vs say the T54 mod 1 with 190 pen vs +2. I don't have the T54 mod 1. But the CDC is more in the 9/10 area to vs top tier.

 

View Postbrisha, on 24 November 2017 - 01:07 PM, said:

T6 and 8 are crap, terrible in platoon and almost as bad solo. T7 is now terrible in platoon from just bad but solo t7 still seems better although top tier is rare.

T5 and 9 seem to be the best tiers just now. Don't buy any prem tanks until WG get it through their thick heads that the MM is just broken.

 

For me "EU2" My Crom B sees way more top tier games then my tier 8 prems does. And I've had little issues playing the few tier 6 prems I have. T7 is better actually.. but the tier 7 prems I run have pref MM. And the M10 and E25 are top tier more so then not.

 

My tier 5 pref MM tanks see more equal tier games then anything "not that it's a bad thing there tbh". And my +2 tier 5's sees less of equal tiers. But it's fair share of top tiers and +2 games.

 

On top tier IMO they should dump the 3-5-7 spread. It works on low to mid tiers not to punish new players in stock grinds etc. But it does nothing good for high tiers now vs before tbh. And tier 8 should really see less equal tier games with all the broken tier 8 prems in there.

 

 


Edited by Balc0ra, 24 November 2017 - 01:28 PM.


dennez #6 Posted 24 November 2017 - 01:35 PM

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Tier 8 is meh to ok-ish IF you play solo (for the love of god don't ever try to toon tier 8s!!!) AND you drive on of the OP tier 8's

Basically they turned the game into a toon punishing solo experience, unless you want to play tier x all day.

 



Andicus #7 Posted 24 November 2017 - 09:11 PM

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Scorpion or the Chinese WZ TD are the best options right now imo, the only T8's with enough pen to contribute in the TierX games you'll be getting 70% of the time.

I definitely wouldn't be getting a med as there's way too many super heavies you struggle to harm even with premium ammo


Edited by Andicus, 24 November 2017 - 09:13 PM.


Homer_J #8 Posted 24 November 2017 - 09:18 PM

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Tier 8 matchmaking is working as expected with the 3-5-7 template.

Aikl #9 Posted 24 November 2017 - 09:40 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 24 November 2017 - 08:18 PM, said:

Tier 8 matchmaking is working as expected with the 3-5-7 template.

 

At least WG fudged up something intentionally for once. As crap as it is, it's probably working exactly as intended.

Scabolcz #10 Posted 24 November 2017 - 10:26 PM

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I can't remember the last time I had a tier 8 battle on my ISU-152... 7/10 are tier X battles... This has become the most annoying tank to play at that tier... You'll miss 4/10 shots, and those that hit, you'll have to pray that it hits a weak part of the armor for the 260 mm of penetration... It's awfull




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