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PoIestar #1 Posted 24 November 2017 - 04:38 PM

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I know complaing about MM is cliché and probably getting old, but it is, and has been, gamebreaking for me for the past 3 weeks. The problem is simple: ALL games I play I get matched up as bottom tier.

Yeah that's right, in the past 3 weeks, I've played 1 game in which my tank was the highest tier. But, considering it was a single tier game, and it makes me very cynical, it was a bottom tier game as well. Rest of the games are about 15% 5-10 with the 5 being a tier higher than me, and 85% 3-5-7 with me being the 7. I gave up on the game a week ago, wanted to see some sales and prep my garage for 9.21, came back, still nothing fixed. There's an interesting correlation between this phenomenon and my premium running out, but WG can't possibly use that as a trick to buy more premium account

 

Anyway, is this just poor luck, poor perseverance or do others have this same issue? It's becoming more than annoying atm.



ZlatanArKung #2 Posted 24 November 2017 - 04:44 PM

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View PostPoIestar, on 24 November 2017 - 04:38 PM, said:

I know complaing about MM is cliché and probably getting old, but it is, and has been, gamebreaking for me for the past 3 weeks. The problem is simple: ALL games I play I get matched up as bottom tier.

Yeah that's right, in the past 3 weeks, I've played 1 game in which my tank was the highest tier. But, considering it was a single tier game, and it makes me very cynical, it was a bottom tier game as well. Rest of the games are about 15% 5-10 with the 5 being a tier higher than me, and 85% 3-5-7 with me being the 7. I gave up on the game a week ago, wanted to see some sales and prep my garage for 9.21, came back, still nothing fixed. There's an interesting correlation between this phenomenon and my premium running out, but WG can't possibly use that as a trick to buy more premium account

 

Anyway, is this just poor luck, poor perseverance or do others have this same issue? It's becoming more than annoying atm.

The current template MM creates these results. Nothing new.



dennez #3 Posted 24 November 2017 - 04:48 PM

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View PostPoIestar, on 24 November 2017 - 04:38 PM, said:

I know complaing about MM is cliché and probably getting old, but it is, and has been, gamebreaking for me for the past 3 weeks. The problem is simple: ALL games I play I get matched up as bottom tier.

Yeah that's right, in the past 3 weeks, I've played 1 game in which my tank was the highest tier. But, considering it was a single tier game, and it makes me very cynical, it was a bottom tier game as well. Rest of the games are about 15% 5-10 with the 5 being a tier higher than me, and 85% 3-5-7 with me being the 7. I gave up on the game a week ago, wanted to see some sales and prep my garage for 9.21, came back, still nothing fixed. There's an interesting correlation between this phenomenon and my premium running out, but WG can't possibly use that as a trick to buy more premium account

 

Anyway, is this just poor luck, poor perseverance or do others have this same issue? It's becoming more than annoying atm.

 

Tier 7 or 9 solo are the only things that will semi guarantee being top tier once in awhile..  And ofc there's always tier x.

PoIestar #4 Posted 24 November 2017 - 04:48 PM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 24 November 2017 - 04:44 PM, said:

The current template MM creates these results. Nothing new.

 

Please do me a favor and read. Ofcourse there are templates aka "new MM". They have worked fine. But now I get NOTHING but bottom tier games. That's not right.

PoIestar #5 Posted 24 November 2017 - 04:50 PM

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View Postdennez, on 24 November 2017 - 04:48 PM, said:

 

Tier 7 or 9 solo are the only things that will semi guarantee being top tier once in awhile..  And ofc there's always tier x.

 

Played both of those more than enough, it's more of a guarantee to not be top tier, like any tier atm.

JocMeister #6 Posted 24 November 2017 - 04:55 PM

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View PostPoIestar, on 24 November 2017 - 04:38 PM, said:

I know complaing about MM is cliché and probably getting old, but it is, and has been, gamebreaking for me for the past 3 weeks. The problem is simple: ALL games I play I get matched up as bottom tier.

Yeah that's right, in the past 3 weeks, I've played 1 game in which my tank was the highest tier. But, considering it was a single tier game, and it makes me very cynical, it was a bottom tier game as well. Rest of the games are about 15% 5-10 with the 5 being a tier higher than me, and 85% 3-5-7 with me being the 7. I gave up on the game a week ago, wanted to see some sales and prep my garage for 9.21, came back, still nothing fixed. There's an interesting correlation between this phenomenon and my premium running out, but WG can't possibly use that as a trick to buy more premium account

 

Anyway, is this just poor luck, poor perseverance or do others have this same issue? It's becoming more than annoying atm.

 

Playing a lot T34-85M trying to 3-mark it.

 

Had 17 tier 8 games in a row. The 18th was a tier 7 game. Then back to tier 8 for 19th game. 20th game another T7 game. 21 and 22 was tier 8 games....stopped playing after that. Played 2 games today with it. Both tier 8.

 

They need to revert the MM change or come up with something else or I for one will stop playing. Already stopped paying. 


Edited by JocMeister, 24 November 2017 - 04:58 PM.


ZlatanArKung #7 Posted 24 November 2017 - 04:57 PM

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View PostPoIestar, on 24 November 2017 - 04:48 PM, said:

 

Please do me a favor and read. Ofcourse there are templates aka "new MM". They have worked fine. But now I get NOTHING but bottom tier games. That's not right.

Your results are confirmed many times by different players at various tiers.

And these results have existed since WG changed template MM first time to increase the 3-5-7 template chance in first patch after its introduction. They are nothing new.

 

I played 60 games in my Liberte before getting a top tiered game.

And after 100 games+ I still only had 1 top tiered battle.

Like 40+% of those battles where against T10 and 40+%+ against T9 in the 5/10.

The best MM i got was the 3-5-7 as being part of the 5.


Edited by ZlatanArKung, 24 November 2017 - 04:59 PM.


Tomotorqemada #8 Posted 24 November 2017 - 05:02 PM

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View PostPoIestar, on 24 November 2017 - 04:38 PM, said:

I know complaing about MM is cliché and probably getting old, but it is, and has been, gamebreaking for me for the past 3 weeks. The problem is simple: ALL games I play I get matched up as bottom tier.

Yeah that's right, in the past 3 weeks, I've played 1 game in which my tank was the highest tier. But, considering it was a single tier game, and it makes me very cynical, it was a bottom tier game as well. Rest of the games are about 15% 5-10 with the 5 being a tier higher than me, and 85% 3-5-7 with me being the 7. I gave up on the game a week ago, wanted to see some sales and prep my garage for 9.21, came back, still nothing fixed. There's an interesting correlation between this phenomenon and my premium running out, but WG can't possibly use that as a trick to buy more premium account

 

Anyway, is this just poor luck, poor perseverance or do others have this same issue? It's becoming more than annoying atm.

 

tried playing a premium vechicle? Yesterday had 5 rounds as a toprtier in a row (strvs1), so the regular bias favourable for PT looks 2 b still around

Phobos4321 #9 Posted 24 November 2017 - 05:04 PM

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also you might call it annoying

 

for sure its not gamebreaking



Bennie182 #10 Posted 24 November 2017 - 05:11 PM

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View PostTomotorqemada, on 24 November 2017 - 05:02 PM, said:

tried playing a premium vechicle? Yesterday had 5 rounds as a toprtier in a row (strvs1), so the regular bias favourable for PT looks 2 b still around

nothing but luck. ah wait.. you're a 47% player. I get it. I get mostly guys like you as toptier... :facepalm:



JocMeister #11 Posted 24 November 2017 - 05:29 PM

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View PostTomotorqemada, on 24 November 2017 - 05:02 PM, said:

 

tried playing a premium vechicle? Yesterday had 5 rounds as a toprtier in a row (strvs1), so the regular bias favourable for PT looks 2 b still around

 

Not working for me. But I think TD and arty get different MM because if I play T8 arty or TD im almost always top tier.

JocMeister #12 Posted 24 November 2017 - 05:44 PM

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PS. I think they changed something with the MM because wait times are 30+ for me despite 700 people in the queue.

 

I bet they changed something without telling us. And probably made it worse in the process.



jack_timber #13 Posted 24 November 2017 - 05:52 PM

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View PostJocMeister, on 24 November 2017 - 04:29 PM, said:

 

Not working for me. But I think TD and arty get different MM because if I play T8 arty or TD im almost always top tier.

Strange isn't it...I also play TD at T8 and often as not bottom or near bottom especially in UDES.

Wonder if it's down to different servers?



CmdRatScabies #14 Posted 24 November 2017 - 06:08 PM

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View Postjack_timber, on 24 November 2017 - 05:52 PM, said:

Strange isn't it...I also play TD at T8 and often as not bottom or near bottom especially in UDES.

Wonder if it's down to different servers?

 

TDs and lights got better MM for a while but they fixed that a couple of months back, and now they suffer like the rest.

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View PostJocMeister, on 24 November 2017 - 04:55 PM, said:

 

They need to revert the MM change or come up with something else or I for one will stop playing. Already stopped paying. 

 

You won't be the only one. 

 

 


Edited by Baldrickk, 24 November 2017 - 06:31 PM.


Tomotorqemada #16 Posted 24 November 2017 - 10:46 PM

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View PostBennie182, on 24 November 2017 - 05:11 PM, said:

nothing but luck. ah wait.. you're a 47% player. I get it. I get mostly guys like you as toptier... :facepalm:

 

suck it up and be happy, mm is sure not rigged

Warzey #17 Posted 24 November 2017 - 11:53 PM

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I'll say that situation improved quite a bit with the latest patch.

I'm usually sitting a bit longer in queue when playing T10. When it comes to T8 I feel like I'm bottom tier in majority of the battles, but I do get battles when I'm top tier and when i'm in the middle, do note that when I say majority I don't mean every single game, it feels somewhat balanced (since you'll be bottom tier most of the time statistically speaking), also both 3/5/7 and 5/10 battles are counted in "bottom tier". It is also worth pointing out that in all those bottom tier battles at least half of the enemy team is same tier as me so it does not feel like an uphill battle all the time. 

 

Keep in mind that this is all subjective until I get home and run my replays through some replay analyzer. 

 

EDIT: Ok I've put my replays through replay analyzer. If I'm reading this properly I played 74 battles in a T8 tank and out of those I had 23 T10 battles (31,08%), 32 T9 battles (43,23%) and 19 T8 battles (25,68%). I'm guessing that T9/T8 battles include 3/5/7 and 5/10 battles with T9/T8 on top. I would say that this MM spread was all right.

Here's the screenshot if someone knows how to read thing properly.

 

Spoiler

 


Edited by Warzey, 25 November 2017 - 01:48 AM.


omgdontkillme #18 Posted 25 November 2017 - 11:19 AM

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View PostPoIestar, on 24 November 2017 - 04:38 PM, said:

I know complaing about MM is cliché and probably getting old, but it is, and has been, gamebreaking for me for the past 3 weeks. The problem is simple: ALL games I play I get matched up as bottom tier.

Yeah that's right, in the past 3 weeks, I've played 1 game in which my tank was the highest tier. But, considering it was a single tier game, and it makes me very cynical, it was a bottom tier game as well. Rest of the games are about 15% 5-10 with the 5 being a tier higher than me, and 85% 3-5-7 with me being the 7. I gave up on the game a week ago, wanted to see some sales and prep my garage for 9.21, came back, still nothing fixed. There's an interesting correlation between this phenomenon and my premium running out, but WG can't possibly use that as a trick to buy more premium account

 

Anyway, is this just poor luck, poor perseverance or do others have this same issue? It's becoming more than annoying atm.

 

The problem isnt about being bottom tier, but bot like players being top tier.

Slyspy #19 Posted 25 November 2017 - 11:23 AM

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View PostPoIestar, on 24 November 2017 - 04:48 PM, said:

 

They have worked fine. 

 

This is a matter of opinion. What you describe is not so unusual IMO.






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