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Private_Pearts #1 Posted 26 November 2017 - 02:51 AM

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I get a 49 to 50% win rate under normal circumstances and a 34% win rate when one of your ******* specials is on? WG don't do skill based MM......... *Edited

Edited by Nohe21, 26 November 2017 - 02:43 PM.
*This post has been edited by the moderation team due to inappropriate remarks.


Balc0ra #2 Posted 26 November 2017 - 02:55 AM

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Well... I'm sure WG don't want your salty nuts. But I'm not complaining as I've grinded 40K XP on the SU-101. And It's gone up from the terrible early 40%, to 47%. Even my AMX 30 has gone from 55 to 57% on 30K xp to give or take. So it's not that bad.

RamRaid90 #3 Posted 26 November 2017 - 02:58 AM

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Play better, win more.

ExclamationMark #4 Posted 26 November 2017 - 02:58 AM

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Actually, as your stats quite nicely show, you suck.

Warzey #5 Posted 26 November 2017 - 03:09 AM

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I'm sure WG wanted to screw you over in particular during the special.

lmperfection #6 Posted 26 November 2017 - 03:13 AM

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I've getting 70% w/r, so keep being on the enemy team please

 



_EXODUZ_ #7 Posted 26 November 2017 - 03:14 AM

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View Postlmperfection, on 26 November 2017 - 03:13 AM, said:

I've getting 70% w/r, so keep being on the enemy team please

 

:D



InfrequentHazard #8 Posted 26 November 2017 - 04:10 AM

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66% for the last 24hrs, I think I've got your wins,

Supakadai #9 Posted 26 November 2017 - 04:13 AM

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You need to buy more gold, premium and stuff to get the winner matchmaking. Pay to win warriors here might disagree, but that's just how pay-to-win games work.

stokescj #10 Posted 26 November 2017 - 04:36 AM

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Honestly I feel your pain. It does happen even to players to contribute in games in a meaningful way. Over the course of about 2 days, I managed to get a -30 loss deficit. I played pretty well on most of those games as well, often doing the best by XP in my team, engaging enemies early on, pushing flanks, but honestly my MM luck has been terrible. The amount of times I landed on the team where there are yellows instead of blues etc its just unbelievable.

 

I just got the T8 bat chat and I have so far achieved 7 losses 0 wins. I had a WR of 60% with the AMX 13 75, which then plummeted to 50, even though I have 2400 W8 with that tank (and for those of you who claim I must simply be sniping, you try it with that accuracy, its impossible...)

 

 The same thing happened to me in the T10 a week or so ago when there was another event on. I have 1950 W8 with that tank, I had a 60% WR which then plummeted to 52% over night. 

 

I just started playing with the T9 STRV and some how I have a 35% WR after 26 games, which would be impossible even if I shoot my own team mates lol. 

 

I think its fair to say MM has not been very kind of over the last week. The fact is, over the short term at least, there is a huge element of luck to it. I have seen the best streamers loose 10 / 15 games in a row regardless of how well they performed. 

 

I would really like to see a skill based MM approach because if games could be more even in player skill level, it would surely be more fun for everyone? Its just as boring when you get 5 purple players on your own team as it is on the opposing team after all. 

 



Supakadai #11 Posted 26 November 2017 - 04:49 AM

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All you need to do really is take a look at replays by an pay-to-win "pro warrior" 

http://forum.worldof...-5k-gold-prize/

The difference in "em random games" is just ridiculous. Those 20-30 defeats in a row just aren't random.

Anyone claiming they are random is a f*****g imbecile...


Edited by Supakadai, 26 November 2017 - 04:56 AM.


deviljin786 #12 Posted 26 November 2017 - 05:00 AM

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not going to lie my WR has taken a dive due to the amount of idiots on but it saves me alot of grinding so i dont mind. 

_EXODUZ_ #13 Posted 26 November 2017 - 05:47 AM

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View Poststokescj, on 26 November 2017 - 04:36 AM, said:

Honestly I feel your pain. It does happen even to players to contribute in games in a meaningful way. Over the course of about 2 days, I managed to get a -30 loss deficit. I played pretty well on most of those games as well, often doing the best by XP in my team, engaging enemies early on, pushing flanks, but honestly my MM luck has been terrible. The amount of times I landed on the team where there are yellows instead of blues etc its just unbelievable.

 

I just got the T8 bat chat and I have so far achieved 7 losses 0 wins. I had a WR of 60% with the AMX 13 75, which then plummeted to 50, even though I have 2400 W8 with that tank (and for those of you who claim I must simply be sniping, you try it with that accuracy, its impossible...)

 

 The same thing happened to me in the T10 a week or so ago when there was another event on. I have 1950 W8 with that tank, I had a 60% WR which then plummeted to 52% over night. 

 

I just started playing with the T9 STRV and some how I have a 35% WR after 26 games, which would be impossible even if I shoot my own team mates lol. 

 

I think its fair to say MM has not been very kind of over the last week. The fact is, over the short term at least, there is a huge element of luck to it. I have seen the best streamers loose 10 / 15 games in a row regardless of how well they performed. 

 

I would really like to see a skill based MM approach because if games could be more even in player skill level, it would surely be more fun for everyone? Its just as boring when you get 5 purple players on your own team as it is on the opposing team after all. 

 

 

You wouldn't enjoy skill based MM either. Steam rolls happen because some people are playing aggressively when others give up too early instead of trying to play better when they're at a disadvantage.

If you make 2 teams of tomatoes fight each other, the ones with more balls will win more often.



HassenderZerhacker #14 Posted 26 November 2017 - 06:14 AM

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same here...

at every major event my winrate drops inspite of me playing better

 

wotlabs has those nice graphs showing how winrate behaves vs. damage and experience

 

wotwr.png


Edited by HassenderZerhacker, 26 November 2017 - 06:15 AM.


XxKuzkina_MatxX #15 Posted 26 November 2017 - 06:15 AM

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View PostRamRaid90, on 26 November 2017 - 03:58 AM, said:

Play better, win more.

 

Not necessarily related.

 


Edited by XxKuzkina_MatxX, 26 November 2017 - 06:17 AM.


brumbarr #16 Posted 26 November 2017 - 06:39 AM

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View PostSupakadai, on 26 November 2017 - 04:49 AM, said:

All you need to do really is take a look at replays by an pay-to-win "pro warrior" 

http://forum.worldof...-5k-gold-prize/

The difference in "em random games" is just ridiculous. Those 20-30 defeats in a row just aren't random.

Anyone claiming they are random is a f*****g imbecile...

I dont see any replays in the thread you linked?



Jigabachi #17 Posted 26 November 2017 - 09:30 AM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 26 November 2017 - 06:15 AM, said:

 

Not necessarily related.

1. Those tend to be those kinds of matches that nobody can win. 

2. Ending up at the top of the list can mean that you played really well - or that you were a burden for your team, because you did all that damage when the match was already over. 

Keep an eye on it, that happens a lot.

 

 

@ thread: Bohoohoo. Do you really think that anyone will take your threads any seriously if the only thing you do is whining about lost matches?

Hint: A lot of your most played tanks are OP or overperforming ones. If it wasn't for those, you'd be a below average player, so "git gud" is one of the most relevant answers here. Besides "grow up", of course.



Sunshinetrooper #18 Posted 26 November 2017 - 09:51 AM

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View PostExclamationMark, on 26 November 2017 - 01:58 AM, said:

Actually, as your stats quite nicely show, you suck.

 

Based on wn8 and wn7 ranks, he's average. 

clixor #19 Posted 26 November 2017 - 10:05 AM

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yesterday. 74% wins. So, today i probably should be glad if i get 40%.

Orkbert #20 Posted 26 November 2017 - 10:06 AM

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View PostPrivate_Pearts, on 26 November 2017 - 02:51 AM, said:

I get a 49 to 50% win rate under normal circumstances and a 34% win rate when one of your ******* specials is on? WG don't do skill based MM......... My left testicle. You suck.

 

Well, I took the liberty and checked which are Your ten most played tanks. Those are:

 

# Tank Type Nation Tier Battles Win Rate
1 Matilda MT GB 4 400  
2 Rheinmetall Skorpion G TD DE 8 396  
3 Sherman III MT GB 5 360  
4 T29 HT US 7 315  
5 M18 Hellcat TD US 6 296  
6 IS HT SU 7 295  
7 FV304 SPG GB 6 274  
8 T67 TD US 5 246  
9 Strv S1 TD SE 8 245  
10 Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf. H MT DE 5 244  

 

Then I looked at what it showed under most recently played tanks and the results were:

 

# Tank Type Nation Tier Battles Win Rate
1 GW Panther SPG DE 7 45  
2 M44 SPG US 6 42  
3 M12 SPG US 7 35  
4 M56 Scorpion TD US 7 34  
5 AT 15 TD GB 8 27  
6 WZ-120-1G FT TD CN 8 22  
7 M18 Hellcat TD US 6 21  
8 T34 HT US 8 19  
9 M40/M43 SPG US 8 19  
10 Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger TD DE 7 18  

 

You might have not yet noticed that except for the Hellcat those two list don't show the same tanks.

 

Basically you didn't play the tanks you have the most experience with (some of them might not even be fully researched yet) and it's WGs fault that you get different results? Sheesh...

 

View PostHassenderZerhacker, on 26 November 2017 - 06:14 AM, said:

same here...

at every major event my winrate drops inspite of me playing better

 

 

Same goes for You as well. Admittedly in your case there are two tanks that do appear on both lists but the fact that You didn't play your most often used tanks during the current event by and large still holds.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by Orkbert, 26 November 2017 - 12:23 PM.





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