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Data from 26. November 2012

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Meredyth #21 Posted 16 November 2011 - 09:31 AM

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Nice info. This makes it possible to calculate your chance of winning a match by looking at the stats of all tanks involved. If your side mainly consists of those performing at 48% win rates vs sides with 52% win rates you know your in for a fight. :-)

iztok #22 Posted 16 November 2011 - 09:59 AM

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Hi!
Interesting data. Thanks!

You deserve a +1, but if it'd ruin your bad reputation, I can give you also a -1. You decide. ;)

BR, Iztok

Phalynx #23 Posted 16 November 2011 - 10:06 AM

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Nice conclusion of the available data, +1. It confirms several statements of the devs regarding the balance.

Ammattilainen #24 Posted 16 November 2011 - 10:07 AM

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Great post.

Hopefully there isn't going to be a list of tanks that are statistically most fun?

Stimpeltje #25 Posted 16 November 2011 - 10:17 AM

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Do u also have numbers of how many battles were played with each nation (in numbers and/or %). This could be of some importance when u want to compare those average win/loss ratios.

Infine #26 Posted 16 November 2011 - 10:18 AM

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View PostJimmyBond, on 16 November 2011 - 09:25 AM, said:

Not forgetting the E75 - which has consistently been stated to be the strongest tier 9 heavy tank... yet lo and behold its the IS4 that comes out on top!
So couple that with the nerf to make every other hit to the front of the E75 blow the engine, the IS4 will reign supreme by miles once again!

No surprise. E-75 is a german fanboys' T-54. Every time I see one in battle I think "oh, another dead weight". I can only wonder how it can perform so good with an average driver being so horrible <_<

Dungbeetle #27 Posted 16 November 2011 - 10:21 AM

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Very interesting numbers.  It seems that the tier/tank combinations where W/L% really go up after 150 games are:

Tier 2: basically across the board.  This makes sense, as the tier spread of tier 2 lights is narrow enough that an elited tank in the hands of an experienced player can consistently dominate.  And that's what I love about noobs, man...I keep getting better; they just stay the same.

Tier 3 TDs: especially the Marder II, but across the board.  These are simply powerful vehicles for their level in the hands of someone who isn't just grinding.

Tier 8+: across the board, except for heavy tanks.  It makes sense, as these are among the most powerful tanks on the board most of the time, so skilled players can "impose their will" a bit more at this level.  Interesting that heavy tanks, though, don't tip into positive W/L% until they hit tier 10.  I guess this is a result of the heavy tank's lack of manueverability and the fact that heavies always end up slugging it out with each other, which dooms lower tier heavies to get picked on by their older cousins, so to speak.  

Tier 5 Lights: One of these days, I'm going to buy that T-50-2 and see what all the fuss is about, because the win percentages of these things are pretty obscene, even compared to the other "end game" tanks.  Not really sure why.  The few games I've gotten into with these tanks, they didn't seem that decisive.

Longtomsilver #28 Posted 16 November 2011 - 10:24 AM

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Win/loss means nothing.

Damage/battle is more important. Do you have this numbers?

Reichsfackel #29 Posted 16 November 2011 - 10:42 AM

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By the way, SerB just admitted in the RU forum, that the nerf of E50-/75 has only "historical" reasons and no balance reasons; just like the EU server stats show.
Well, evil to him who evil thinks (in German: "Ein Schelm, der Böses dabei denkt.").  ;)

Reichsfackel #30 Posted 16 November 2011 - 10:47 AM

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View PostLongtomsilver, on 16 November 2011 - 10:24 AM, said:

Win/loss means nothing.

Damage/battle is more important. Do you have this numbers?
Yes, also since Clanwars and Tank Company Battles falsify the Win/Loss ratio when compared to Random Matches only, where true 'Team Play' is less common.

Stimpeltje #31 Posted 16 November 2011 - 11:04 AM

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Snib says about the type 59:

The Type 59 might be the exception to that, with a significant part of the demographic driving it but still performing well in it. The truth is likely a combination of strongly sloped hull armor, very strong frontal turret armor plus the really low operating costs of this premium medium compared to the generally rather high costs for operating researchable mediums of the same tier, which makes player drive the Type 59 more aggressively (and thus successfully) without too much second thought.

Cant it just be that the type 59 gets a better matchmaking? According to the MM chart it doesnt meet tier 9 meds and tier 10 heavy's. Even tier 7 meds can get into battles with those tanks.

When claiming the truth, remember to view all the aspects.

Spahpanzer_Kommandant #32 Posted 16 November 2011 - 11:10 AM

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Excellent job, Snib!
  

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- average win ratio is 48.94%
- average number of battles per account is 699
- average win ratio for players having played more than 5000 battles is 50.13%.

As someone already pointed out it's kinda like a proof that more experienced players are getting screwed by matchmaking.

Flyntlock #33 Posted 16 November 2011 - 11:16 AM

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Wow for a change a really interesting post. At this rate you might one day get into +rep.

Dungbeetle #34 Posted 16 November 2011 - 11:20 AM

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View PostStimpeltje, on 16 November 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

Cant it just be that the type 59 gets a better matchmaking? According to the MM chart it doesnt meet tier 9 meds and tier 10 heavy's. Even tier 7 meds can get into battles with those tanks.

When claiming the truth, remember to view all the aspects.

I tend to agree.  The "easy mode" matchmaking that the T-59 enjoys likely has the same effect as the matchmaking of the tier 10s - meaning that it is at the top of the table all the time and thus the good drivers are more able to affect its W/L%.  The matchmaking of the T-59 reminds me of tier 2 light matchmaking.

Listy #35 Posted 16 November 2011 - 11:24 AM

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So how many Michael Wittmans (Or variations there of) are there on the server?

:)

Thanks.

Ry0ken #36 Posted 16 November 2011 - 11:25 AM

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Seeing those numbers on E-75 and E-50 I really wonder why they have to move the transition/gears to the front?

iztok #37 Posted 16 November 2011 - 11:33 AM

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Hi!

View PostLongtomsilver, on 16 November 2011 - 10:24 AM, said:

Win/loss means nothing.

Damage/battle is more important. Do you have this numbers?
Please remember that win most of the time means you did more damage to them than they did to you. ;)

BR,  Iztok

Goblin_5 #38 Posted 16 November 2011 - 11:34 AM

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View PostRy0ken, on 16 November 2011 - 11:25 AM, said:

Seeing those numbers on E-75 and E-50 I really wonder why they have to move the transition/gears to the front?

They used the Russian Stargate during a solar flare to travel to an alternate reality where the war dragged on long enough for Germany to complete E-series and found out that the transmission was indeed at the front.

And that Stalin doodled jet fighter blueprints in the 1920s...

loco_chico #39 Posted 16 November 2011 - 11:41 AM

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nice job snib!


ps. at the end he can alwayas say: "its a fake guys, it was a joke" and get tons on -1 :)

DerZivilist #40 Posted 16 November 2011 - 11:47 AM

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Thanks for the effort!

Confirmed some of my own observations, but surprised me in other areas. It will be interesting to see differential stats in a few months.




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