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Community #1 Posted 05 December 2017 - 03:05 PM

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A closer look at the new British Tier X tank destroyer.

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fighting_falcon93 #2 Posted 05 December 2017 - 03:22 PM

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FV217 Badger – The British Bully

 [...] To ensure the line offers distinct gameplay all the way to the top [...]

 

Doesn't this also apply to the Obj.263 line? So why do you insist of throwing it down to tier 9 and replace its tier 10 slot with something that doesn't fit into the line at all?

 

WG I'd honestly appreciate a response on this. The RU forum shouts NO!, the EU forum shouts NO!, yet you proceed with taking said changes to supertest. Hello?!?!?!



wsatnutter #3 Posted 05 December 2017 - 03:32 PM

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looking forward to the tortoise having more purpose and everyone loves and adores a pint of badger at Tankfest .oh wait theres a monster coming to my garage

 

nice work WG

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SirMechanic #4 Posted 05 December 2017 - 03:47 PM

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wait a minute.

in CT client it reads that Badger has 3534 DPM in tech tree but in this news page it reads 3388 DPM. will you nerf the reload time of it or what?? 



SlyMeerkat #5 Posted 05 December 2017 - 03:56 PM

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I doubt id get to the FV before its replaced but im not really bothered about that however this new one does look interesting 

Tiger_Panzermeyer #6 Posted 05 December 2017 - 04:32 PM

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Another gold ammo spammer tank,just like wg wanted,to make people buy premium account.

272 mm pen on a tier x td? foch of dude,you can't reliably pen type 5 frontally with that,let alone a angling maus.



Stroykovic #7 Posted 05 December 2017 - 04:56 PM

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I have a full female crew in the deadstar and need a 3 skill female crewmember extra for the badger, no more, no less. 

either remove the 6th crewmember or make the free crewmember we get match the existing crew it. we dont need to get ourselfs new crew due to YOUR stupid changes 


Edited by Stroykovic, 05 December 2017 - 04:58 PM.


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View PostStroykovic, on 05 December 2017 - 04:56 PM, said:

I have a full female crew in the deadstar and need a 3 skill female crewmember extra for the badger, no more, no less. 

either remove the 6th crewmember or make the free crewmember we get match the existing crew it. we dont need to get ourselfs new crew due to YOUR stupid changes 

 

OR.... just keep using your current female crew in the death star like you apparently intended, and stop crying like a little baby. This change to the tech tree is only giving you an extra T10 tank for free. Its not taking one away from you. 



JanuszBolec #9 Posted 05 December 2017 - 05:10 PM

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I have a question about the crew of the FV215b 183 being transfered to the Badger.  If my crew are on 90% training, will they be retrained for the Badger at 100% or will it remain the same?

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What the actual F*** is it with these tranfer condotions ??? It's allways a horrible mess (T34 vs M103 [6vs5 crew], T30 vs T110e5 [6vs4 crew]) or a complete pain in the rectum (I grinded only for Waffenträger E100 -> never would I have spend time on grinding the Grille 15).

FV215b/SuperConquerer is another sad story and a insult to human

 

WG, for the sake of all sane people on this wonderful planet, let the tank in its current state sit and rot in the garage and only add the new one.... don't touch the old in any way.

Don't mess up the crew assignment or the equipment or anything: LET IT BE !!!

 

Simple as russian tanks, place the Badger in the garage and give me the option to choose from:
- take the complete loadout (crew, equipment, camo etc) from the b183, let it naked with a new 100% crew

- leave the complete loadout on the b183, let Badger naked with a new 100% crew

 

SIMPLE AS FUGG!!!


Edited by 1_2_Die, 05 December 2017 - 06:58 PM.


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View PostJanuszBolec, on 05 December 2017 - 04:10 PM, said:

I have a question about the crew of the FV215b 183 being transfered to the Badger.  If my crew are on 90% training, will they be retrained for the Badger at 100% or will it remain the same?

 

Your crew will keep everything it has as it is (no more nor less), you will not need to do anything (retrain, etc.), additionally you can use the same crew at the Death Star without any penalty because the FV215b 183 is going to be a (special) premium tank and as all premium tanks you can transfer crews for training from other tanks of the same nationality & type without penalties.

Edited by TheArk_2014, 05 December 2017 - 05:56 PM.


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View PostEchotun, on 05 December 2017 - 04:04 PM, said:

 

OR.... just keep using your current female crew in the death star like you apparently intended, and stop crying like a little baby. This change to the tech tree is only giving you an extra T10 tank for free. Its not taking one away from you. 

 

He has a point...usually when you get your T10 tank your crew has 3-4 skills unlocked by the time you get to T10 (if you keep using the same crew going from tank to tank up the line) so having to find an extra crew member can be annoying especially if you don't have any to use from any other tanks etc

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when will the new update come?

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View PostVedrano, on 05 December 2017 - 06:01 PM, said:

when will the new update come?

 

13.12.

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View PostStroykovic, on 05 December 2017 - 03:56 PM, said:

I have a full female crew in the deadstar and need a 3 skill female crewmember extra for the badger, no more, no less. 

either remove the 6th crewmember or make the free crewmember we get match the existing crew it. we dont need to get ourselfs new crew due to YOUR stupid changes 

 

May i ask you what have you done with your Tortoise Radio Men that should have at least 2 skills?

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Well, at least it's not so game balance destroying as the 183mm HESH ammo but really.......was an impenetrable TD the only thing you could come up with? There is already far too much premium spam required in this game with the completely overbuffed heavy tanks this year and you thought adding another vehicle that can't be reasonably damaged with standard ammo would be a good thing to do?

 

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View PostCobra6, on 05 December 2017 - 06:50 PM, said:

that can't be reasonably damaged with standard ammo

 

It's very easy to reasonably damage the Badger with standard ammo:

 

1. Shoot its lower front plate.

2. Shoot its sides or back.

 

The point is: Please for once stop complaining about weakspots and instead complain about the bad corridor maps we have :)



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View PostCobra6, on 05 December 2017 - 07:50 PM, said:

Well, at least it's not so game balance destroying as the 183mm HESH ammo but really.......was an impenetrable TD the only thing you could come up with? There is already far too much premium spam required in this game with the completely overbuffed heavy tanks this year and you thought adding another vehicle that can't be reasonably damaged with standard ammo would be a good thing to do?

 

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To be fair, Badger has so silly armor that premium spam is not an option, so there is that at least

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View PostBala79, on 05 December 2017 - 05:22 PM, said:

 

May i ask you what have you done with your Tortoise Radio Men that should have at least 2 skills?

 

Well, maybe like with my Tortoise, the crew stayed loyal to their tank, Deathstar got its own crew.
Especially when you move the crew from tier to tier and at some levels you need 6 people, then 5 or 4, then again 6, at last only 4 or 5... that's horrible and against camaraderie.

 

Take swedish TD, the first 7 tanks are with crew of 4, they will train, fight and die together... for the good days, for the bad days.

But the last 3 tanks don't need a loader at all, this pal will rot in the barracks... shame on you.


Edited by 1_2_Die, 05 December 2017 - 07:06 PM.


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View Postfighting_falcon93, on 05 December 2017 - 07:57 PM, said:

 

It's very easy to reasonably damage the Badger with standard ammo:

 

1. Shoot its lower front plate.

2. Shoot its sides or back.

 

The point is: Please for once stop complaining about weakspots and instead complain about the bad corridor maps we have :)

 

For you first point, lower plate has 240-250 effective armor when slightly angled. GL penetrating it with standard ammo as a tier 8, or even a tier 10 if you low roll. With a 258 pen gun it's a ~40% chance that will bounce. Sadly arty will be the nightmare of this vehicle. And mediums. It seems balanced from what I played on test




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