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Noo_Noo #21 Posted 07 December 2017 - 01:38 PM

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Originally wasn't that a light tanks job in the game. Spot arty for your teams arty? 

 

The role of light tanks has changed, yet Arty hasn't really changed at all. Hmmm no wonder most of us complain about them.



Derethim #22 Posted 07 December 2017 - 01:40 PM

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The maps are too small is the problem.

qqq10 #23 Posted 07 December 2017 - 01:47 PM

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View PostHeidenSieker, on 07 December 2017 - 12:30 PM, said:

 

If you want a better chance of losing and not getting your win bonus, yes.

 

I can't remember the last time I needed arty to win. On the other hand, I remember plenty of times when a "friendly" clicker tracked me, stunned me or just plain out killed me, often resulting in a loss because I didn't have the HP and/or consumables to do anything.

somegras #24 Posted 07 December 2017 - 01:48 PM

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If you are getting killed in the first minute playing arty, unless you are playing Ensk or something, then you are just a terrible arty player.

etody77 #25 Posted 07 December 2017 - 02:11 PM

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crap's happens in Ernsk, siegfried line on encounter, for attacking team, in C3 spawn point, and sometimes in mines, when the enemy team take the hill very fast. The solution is to play english/french arty, because they are faster than the russian-german high tier arty. I have not played tier 10 russian arty, because i'm not interresed, but i seen that is much faster than many other. For completing arty missions with honurs, choose english arty, tier 8-9, because he haas precision, and faster RoF. English arty finished for me 45 capaign missions with honours :)

Spurtung #26 Posted 07 December 2017 - 02:32 PM

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Well, that's unexpected! Whenever there's a whine involving 'arty' and 'cover', it never goes like this.

jabster #27 Posted 07 December 2017 - 03:01 PM

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View PostNoo_Noo, on 07 December 2017 - 12:38 PM, said:

Originally wasn't that a light tanks job in the game. Spot arty for your teams arty? 

 

Err, no.



zen_monk_ #28 Posted 07 December 2017 - 03:08 PM

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View PostNoo_Noo, on 07 December 2017 - 12:38 PM, said:

Originally wasn't that a light tanks job in the game. Spot arty for your teams arty? 

 

The role of light tanks has changed, yet Arty hasn't really changed at all. Hmmm no wonder most of us complain about them.

 

Originally there were no light tanks.

TheOneAboveAII #29 Posted 07 December 2017 - 03:17 PM

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Nice...hopefully the scouts will shoot and ammorack you as well.

Edited by TheOneAboveAII, 07 December 2017 - 03:17 PM.


HeidenSieker #30 Posted 07 December 2017 - 03:46 PM

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View Postqqq10, on 07 December 2017 - 01:47 PM, said:

I can't remember the last time I needed arty to win.

 

If you have SPGs on your team, and they have lost theirs, you have a better probability of winning.

 

GL to the original poster.



LeGod7 #31 Posted 07 December 2017 - 03:55 PM

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View Postjack_timber, on 07 December 2017 - 01:01 PM, said:

 

only reason I play arty is to annoy folks.

 

I got a two week ban for saying people like this exist, play arty and are well people you would think twice about peeing on if they were on fire.

 

Yet here is another example, apparently calling people who specifically play the game to grief people what they are is bannable, fair mods.

 

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Anyhow, I do find it ironic that arty players complain about the fleeting moments where they are actually under some risk.

 

It is a little glimpse of how the other side live, cos normal tanks are spotted often and get shot at often, so maybe the OP needs to realise that and learn from it.  

 

HeidenSieker, on 07 December 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

If you have SPGs on your team, and they have lost theirs, you have a better probability of winning.

 

 

Highly debatable, this is only true if they are competent team players and the vast majority of arty players are far from that.  if they aren't stunning their own team, they are chasing a kill on some light tank cos he has purple WN8 whilst the team is struggling with a Maus, or they are doing some PM so are holding their shot for a TD kill or something. 

 



WindSplitter1 #32 Posted 07 December 2017 - 04:00 PM

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View Posttrispect, on 07 December 2017 - 11:21 AM, said:

1. Good!

2. Solution = Stop playing arty

3. Play American SPGs

 

View PostHassenderZerhacker, on 07 December 2017 - 12:12 PM, said:

 

don't listen to the toxic arseholes here.

 

WoT has been quite unfair to high tier German arties. The solution is to play the USA tree for lights which is good anyway (the USA got some of the most OP lights in the game for tier 6, 7, 8).

Grind the useless Chaffee until you get M41 HMC and work your way up to some of the most pesky arties there are: M44, M12, M40/M43, M53/M55.

 

 

This. ^^

M55 is probably the best SPG in the game.



HeidenSieker #33 Posted 07 December 2017 - 04:12 PM

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View PostLeGod7, on 07 December 2017 - 03:55 PM, said:

HeidenSieker, on 07 December 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

If you have SPGs on your team, and they have lost theirs, you have a better probability of winning.

Highly debatable, this is only true if they are competent team players and the vast majority of arty players are far from that.e PM so are holding their shot for a TD kill or something.

 

Logic. If your SPGs do any damage to the enemy and theirs don't, you have a better chance of winning.

magkiln #34 Posted 07 December 2017 - 04:41 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 07 December 2017 - 01:15 PM, said:

 

 

He's playing GW Tiger P and says he is destroyed in 20 seconds.  I don't think there is a tier 6 and above arty which loads that fast and can one shot him so it's presumably enemy tanks killing him.

 

You're probably right, though keep in mind that arty-on-arty hits often cause ammorack failure.

etody77 #35 Posted 07 December 2017 - 05:07 PM

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BTW, don't cry because you are killed fast on some maps, you don't cry when you kill a -2 tier HT with one shoot. good things and bad thigs about the tank you play, no tank is perfect

suvicze #36 Posted 07 December 2017 - 05:50 PM

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Well as long as your game loads in time pretty much the only problem are ensk, mines and siegfried line assault.

On siegfried line assault you either need more mobile arty, less competent enemy spotters or just luck for good spawn position. Nothing you can really do. One of the reason why I switched to american line as I actually enjoy assault in pretty much any tank.

Ensk and mines same problem. Maps are too small and even mobile arty can have problems depending on the ability of the enemy.

Personally I would recommend changing lines. Before, the germans werent that bad because you could use 300+mm pen AP ammo but now the high tier ones are useless with having nothing really going for them. No mobility, useless armor which only adds weight and slows you down, and narrow gun arc

US M53/55 and UK ConquerorGC arty are probably the best, also russian obj 261 is really good, french as well are decent (mobile, fast firing which makes it good for assist missions) both US and UK have ridiculous gun arc which makes reaiming at various parts of the map easier. US have better mobility overall, UK has high angle of firing which makes the shell fly longer but it is easier to hit enemies behind cover.



kaneloon #37 Posted 07 December 2017 - 06:19 PM

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I only have the obj 261. It is fast but on some maps like ruinberg I can be spotted while hiding, with the TX scouts view range.

But then it's generaly when your team will crumble in 30s, so it's not really a problem.

 



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played first game with stock tier 9 arty. It's fast, [edited]fast

psychobear #39 Posted 07 December 2017 - 06:49 PM

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View PostHeidenSieker, on 07 December 2017 - 02:30 PM, said:

 

If you want a better chance of losing and not getting your win bonus, yes.

 

Small price to pay in this particular situation. Seeing skyfeces get rekt at battlestart is well worth it. 

 

@OP - getting smashed without having a possibility to do something about it doesn't feel like fun, does it? Well enjoy, that's what playing against arta feels like. This is the "dimension" this retarded class brings to gameplay. Have fun.



ArtyRulesForever #40 Posted 07 December 2017 - 09:29 PM

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View PostLudoludol, on 07 December 2017 - 12:19 PM, said:

Hi all,

 

I'm getting really annoyed by this issue. I play german artillery wich is very slow... and I'm getting spoted by fast scouts in many maps before I can get to cover, especialy when team is going all one side.

 

I can't do nothing but get destroyed after 20 sec of game... I'm trying to do arti personal missions for T55A but it will take me years since i'm gettng killed at start in 25 to 35% of games depending on map and type of game...

 

Do other artillery player have a solution ?

 

Thx and enjoy the game !

play another arty.

 

P.s. ignore the losers and troll arty haters and their retarded comments.






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