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shousee #1 Posted 07 December 2017 - 03:47 PM

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I wonder, started to play this tank just now, as a stock its utterly useless. And when I see myself as top tier I cry since with that 170pen, mediocore mobility and no armor and huge turret I will be useless. What is the role of this tank ? Support sniper or just support tank ? You get autopenned by everything, 2,7 sec between firing shots is tragic and cant compete with other autoloaders. So please I would take any advice how to grind this pain in the [edited]tank or just how to position myself in battle. Getting to play against E50 as counter top tier medium is just not fair at all.

Ceeb #2 Posted 07 December 2017 - 03:51 PM

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Certain tanks are designed to be Free XP sinks... This is one of them

WindSplitter1 #3 Posted 07 December 2017 - 03:54 PM

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I just unlocked the 2nd gun. The stock one isn't as bad as you claim.

I just play it as if it were a light tank. Which really is, tbh.



shousee #4 Posted 07 December 2017 - 03:59 PM

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Just played a game 4200dmg 6kills as top tier, is good when u are playing against tomatoes Ferdinand that u can flank and just IK, I love this, but when u play against good players its hard.

Edited by shousee, 07 December 2017 - 03:59 PM.


Aikl #5 Posted 07 December 2017 - 04:02 PM

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Large-clip autoloaders are indeed a tricky breed to master. As situational as the AP and similar tanks tend to be, you just have to accept that some games are close to impossible to do much with. :)

dimethylcadmium #6 Posted 07 December 2017 - 04:12 PM

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What is the purpose of the tank? To let you know you have to buy Lorraine 40t if you want a french autoloader medium that's not a Tier 10, because the 40t is just better, especially tier for tier. 

 

 

 

 



dennez #7 Posted 07 December 2017 - 04:15 PM

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You need the top gun (100mm).. Its pretty useless without it. Just like the other tier 9's there's a disgusting XP sink in the guns. With the top gun its my favourite t9 med. Early game you can do some scouting/counterscouting (you devastate any scout you meet and are just as fast) and spotting.. Then late game comes the cleanup. But be careful with the very long reload. If you cant fully clip something you're usually fast enough to still GTFO. Gun handling is better than the tier X Bat Chat btw.. 

Dosjer007 #8 Posted 08 December 2017 - 12:04 AM

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View Postshousee, on 07 December 2017 - 03:47 PM, said:

I wonder, started to play this tank just now, as a stock its utterly useless. And when I see myself as top tier I cry since with that 170pen, mediocore mobility and no armor and huge turret I will be useless. What is the role of this tank ? Support sniper or just support tank ? You get autopenned by everything, 2,7 sec between firing shots is tragic and cant compete with other autoloaders. So please I would take any advice how to grind this pain in the [edited]tank or just how to position myself in battle. Getting to play against E50 as counter top tier medium is just not fair at all.

 

 


Edited by Dosjer007, 08 December 2017 - 12:05 AM.


CoDiGGo #9 Posted 08 December 2017 - 12:17 AM

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Flank and clip

Balc0ra #10 Posted 08 December 2017 - 12:31 AM

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View Postshousee, on 07 December 2017 - 03:47 PM, said:

I wonder, started to play this tank just now, as a stock its utterly useless. And when I see myself as top tier I cry since with that 170pen, mediocore mobility and no armor and huge turret I will be useless

 

That's more or less how all the French tanks are. AMX 30 is the same. Even if the middle gun on the 30 is your top gun. The dpm with the stock turret vs the top gun and turret is 800. So you can't be an effective support tank, and you won't win any 1 on 1's vs any tier 9 if they close the distance. That was terrible.

 

View Postshousee, on 07 December 2017 - 03:47 PM, said:

  What is the role of this tank ? Support sniper or just support tank ? 

 

Bully flanker. Keep an eye on the map, support your meds or HT's depending on the map. Empty your clip on anything that's not focusing on you. Run away to reload and relocate and stay out of sight until it's done. And be in a position to fire as soon as the reload is done to if possible. I never did like playing it as a sniper personally. But it can work like that too. Urban maps might be a bit tricky for this, but just stick to a group that can cover you when you reload. Never stray alone in that thing. Seen way to many BC empty a clip on a "lone" target that has 5 hidden guns as support, and then your escape route is to far away.


Edited by Balc0ra, 08 December 2017 - 12:32 AM.


MarcoStrapone #11 Posted 08 December 2017 - 12:41 AM

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amazing tank.




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