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Dakado24 #1 Posted 08 December 2017 - 06:22 PM

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I am wondering if anyone else has noticed that last month or so arty is dealing way more damage. I remember that after the arty rework patch, arty was doing like 20-100 damage if I was in medium or heavy tank (tier VIII - X) but now I often receive arta hit for 600 or so which is close to the damage that artas dealt before the rework + the stun.

 

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HeidenSieker #2 Posted 08 December 2017 - 06:26 PM

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View PostDakado24, on 08 December 2017 - 06:22 PM, said:

I am wondering if anyone else has noticed that last month or so arty is dealing way more damage. I remember that after the arty rework patch, arty was doing like 20-100 damage if I was in medium or heavy tank (tier VIII - X) but now I often receive arta hit for 600 or so which is close to the damage that artas dealt before the rework + the stun.

 

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I have not noticed any difference in the damage I deal out or receive. That said, surely there must be stats available for SPGs and average damage done?



ArtyRulesForever #3 Posted 08 December 2017 - 06:28 PM

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View PostDakado24, on 08 December 2017 - 06:22 PM, said:

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here i fixed it for you



Tiger_Panzermeyer #4 Posted 08 December 2017 - 06:30 PM

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Homer_J #5 Posted 08 December 2017 - 07:04 PM

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View PostDakado24, on 08 December 2017 - 05:22 PM, said:

 

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So you don't want input from the people most likely to be able to answer your question?

 

And you talk about toxic.

 

Maybe arty players just worked out what does damage now.  Instead of hitting tanks on top, land the shell alongside or just behind for maximum tears.



etody77 #6 Posted 08 December 2017 - 07:22 PM

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It was no buf, maybe a little nerf on aimtime at my tier 8 french arty

Aikl #7 Posted 08 December 2017 - 07:32 PM

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Can't say I've noticed any change since the rework. You could argue that the rework itself was a buff to arty - it's quite a bit more consistent in terms of damage dealing now - the 'effective' DPM is improved because of substantial buffs to accuracy and aiming time (certain arty gets enough accuracy to actually hit stationary targets, which is arguably fair).

Noo_Noo #8 Posted 08 December 2017 - 07:34 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 08 December 2017 - 07:04 PM, said:

 

Maybe arty players just worked out what does damage now.  Instead of hitting tanks on top, land the shell alongside or just behind for maximum tears.

 

You know I always found that a little weird. HE is not supposed to work well against spaced armour like tracks yet in arty's case it seems to do quite well.

 



WindSplitter1 #9 Posted 08 December 2017 - 07:46 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 08 December 2017 - 06:04 PM, said:

So you don't want input from the people most likely to be able to answer your question?

 

And you talk about toxic.

 

Maybe arty players just worked out what does damage now.  Instead of hitting tanks on top, land the shell alongside or just behind for maximum tears.

 

Engine Deck of an IS-3/Tiger II

Cupola on Libertè

Below the turret cheeks of a Maus

Powerpack of the E3/E4

Backside of a Patton/Super Conq.

 

Some SPGs have enough accuracy to deliberately hit a weaker part that will penetrate and do full damage. Point-and-click used to be effective but not so much nowadays, unless the tank is paper already.

 

Because it isn't and not all of us have Berts, Artysts need to do something many people say SPG class is incapable of: using skill, in order to hit these parts.


Edited by WindSplitter1, 08 December 2017 - 07:47 PM.


Dakado24 #10 Posted 14 December 2017 - 08:34 PM

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View PostArtyRulesForever, on 08 December 2017 - 06:28 PM, said:

here i fixed it for you

 

I told you that I dont want responses from bots, so please go away you red 500 wn8 noob arta player.



DracheimFlug #11 Posted 14 December 2017 - 08:59 PM

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View PostNoo_Noo, on 08 December 2017 - 07:34 PM, said:

 

You know I always found that a little weird. HE is not supposed to work well against spaced armour like tracks yet in arty's case it seems to do quite well.

 

 

Not sure what you mean. HE can detrack. And splash would not just hit the tracks.

P33K #12 Posted 14 December 2017 - 09:43 PM

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As I play some arty as well, I'll answer anyway even if u dont want to listen. :harp:

 

It surely took some time to adjust after the changes, so probably the way people aim has become more suited to current system.

 

It's quite dependant on tiers too. T7 and lower must basicly hit more straightly and on weaker spots, but t8+ one usually must aim on just next to the tank (sides or under the tank). The pen on arties is so low these days that its easier to make damage this way, paper armors excluded. Luckily accuracy is now decent enough.

 

And yes, it's not that hard for arties to make some damage these days IF you know what you are doing. T7 feels struggling a bit with mm system though.



TheComfyChair #13 Posted 14 December 2017 - 10:07 PM

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View PostDakado24, on 08 December 2017 - 06:22 PM, said:

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I thought a bot was an automated cheat type program thing that helped you grind tanks. I'm not clued up with all you youngs uns and your tech speak, does it have another meaning? Can bots reply? . Apologies for my terrible grammar. My grandma on the other hand is cool.

LepiSale #14 Posted 14 December 2017 - 10:56 PM

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Shhhh, it's a secret!

Blubba #15 Posted 14 December 2017 - 11:27 PM

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Can't say as I have noticed it but then, I've been lucky rarely encountering more than 1 per battle.

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View PostTheComfyChair, on 14 December 2017 - 09:07 PM, said:

 

I thought a bot was an automated cheat type program thing that helped you grind tanks. I'm not clued up with all you youngs uns and your tech speak, does it have another meaning? Can bots reply? . Apologies for my terrible grammar. My grandma on the other hand is cool.

 

Oh no, not the cool grandma...

__H3H3__ #16 Posted 15 December 2017 - 09:15 AM

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Yep I got it for 550 HP in my 260 by a tier 9 arty. Loads of fun you know getting punished for being spotted first. Ah was my fault anyway I should have camped in my heavy. That's what WG wants right. Arty is in the game to punish dynamic and aggresive gamplay..:)

Edited by another_Ghost_Shell, 15 December 2017 - 09:16 AM.


BlackHordes #17 Posted 15 December 2017 - 09:30 AM

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View Postanother_Ghost_Shell, on 15 December 2017 - 09:15 AM, said:

Yep I got it for 550 HP in my 260 by a tier 9 arty. Loads of fun you know getting punished for being spotted first. Ah was my fault anyway I should have camped in my heavy. That's what WG wants right. Arty is in the game to punish dynamic and aggresive gamplay..:)

 

Exactly, camp all game behind that single building where they can't hit you with the rest of your team, because SPGs only punish campers... right?

MarcoStrapone #18 Posted 15 December 2017 - 09:56 AM

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basicaly they nerfed it 100% true. my m44 was a beast, now every shot, "that was close"

Excavatus #19 Posted 15 December 2017 - 10:58 AM

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so you want to know If anything changed SECRETLY on arties?

but you dont want arty players to answer you???

 

so much logic eh? :)

 

Anyway.. I will be a good champ and give you the info you asked regardles.. because why? because it is christmas time coming.. I am feeling generous..

 

I was having problems about dealing damage with the arties.. after the great change..

But the thing is.. actually... a little bit tweaks on your aiming... makes a great change..

So.. now there is a new targeting technic especially for armored targets we use :)

and no I am not gonna tell what it is.. because I dont want super heavy drivers to learn it :)

 

but in the end, hitting a maus for 400 damage in a tier 8 arty.. is so much fun.. because they were so happy in the early days of the nerf when we hit them for 20 to 50 damage :)

 



SaintMaddenus #20 Posted 15 December 2017 - 11:47 AM

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"If you are toxic bot or arty player, please do not even consider replying to this thread. Thanks"

 

Ah this brings back memories when someone posted  "If you are a Dinger Troll do not post on this thread"






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