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fanta_freake #1 Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:00 PM

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I thought the new French heavy line was about frontal armor?

But Holy S*it i was wrong. Again.

 

Why did you make such a slow heavy tank, with no armor to rely on. And almost no mobility to run away, althought it is a french tank. ;)

Could you atleast make it competitive against something like the VK100.01P.

 

Good luck fellas, grinding this tank :B



leggasiini #2 Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:09 PM

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Worst tier 8 I have ever played.

 

Its as big as a super heavy and mobility is not that good by heavy standards, but then it has hull armor worse than some medium tanks, and the gun (100 mm) is just...aids. Combination of trash bloom and super aids aiming time and the alpha is not even that impressive.

 

Stock turret is better than top one, however favoring the top turret solely because the aiming time is bit better (3.2 sec aim time is practically unacceptable for 300 alpha and bad bloom) and higher HP (trades better). 120 mm probably improves the tank quite a lot but still uncertain of researching it because thats another 48k XP worthy of XP of need of playing this tank, and the M4 51 is quite expensive XP-wise. I don't really want to risk it, but anything that could make this tank bettr could be worth a try...

 

Im struggling to do 1400 damage per battle, whereas I have 1.7k - 2.1k DPG with other tier 8 HTs. I have higher DPG in M4 45, and we all know how much people "loves" that tank.



fanta_freake #3 Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:12 PM

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View Postleggasiini, on 13 December 2017 - 05:09 PM, said:

Worst tier 8 I have ever played.

 

Its as big as a super heavy and mobility is not that good by heavy standards, but then it has hull armor worse than some medium tanks, and the gun (100 mm) is just...aids. Combination of trash bloom and super aids aiming time and the alpha is not even that impressive.

 

Stock turret is better than top one, however favoring the top turret solely because the aiming time is bit better (3.2 sec aim time is practically unacceptable for 300 alpha and bad bloom) and higher HP (trades better). 120 mm probably improves the tank quite a lot but still uncertain of researching it because thats another 48k XP worthy of XP of need of playing this tank, and the M4 51 is quite expensive XP-wise. I don't really want to risk it, but anything that could make this tank bettr could be worth a try...

 

Im struggling to do 1400 damage per battle, whereas I have 1.7k - 2.1k DPG with other tier 8 HTs. I have higher DPG in M4 45, and we all know how much people "loves" that tank.

 

Exactly. And when you look at it, the VK100.01P is just better in anyway. The VK would simply rape you, if you were in the AMX. I really hope they improve it, cuz this is just a joke atm.

leggasiini #4 Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:16 PM

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View Postfanta_freake, on 13 December 2017 - 07:12 PM, said:

 

Exactly. And when you look at it, the VK100.01P is just better in anyway. The VK would simply rape you, if you were in the AMX. I really hope they improve it, cuz this is just a joke atm.

 

Not just VK 100.01 P, most of tier 8 HTs are flat out better than this thing.

 

Hell, looking at it, even Tiger II is just better than this (similar mobility, better hull armor (lol), less fat (lol), gun is better at everything apart from base pen), Tiger II of all things!



THE_JACK_OF_HEARTS #5 Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:19 PM

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welcome to WOT suckers LOL.

iarmolenkho #6 Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:25 PM

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View Postfanta_freake, on 13 December 2017 - 08:00 PM, said:

I thought the new French heavy line was about frontal armor?

But Holy S*it i was wrong. Again.

 

Why did you make such a slow heavy tank, with no armor to rely on. And almost no mobility to run away, althought it is a french tank. ;)

Could you atleast make it competitive against something like the VK100.01P.

 

Good luck fellas, grinding this tank :B

 

This tank has a dysfunctional armor. In my opinion. GL dude :trollface:

Derethim #7 Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:28 PM

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Finally an underpowered tank that is new!

iarmolenkho #8 Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:30 PM

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View PostDerethim, on 13 December 2017 - 08:28 PM, said:

Finally an underpowered tank that is new!

 

Yeah! :izmena:

AngelofAwe #9 Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:31 PM

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If I had any gold to spend WG would have successfully made me free exp past this turd.
Instead I'm playing it at sub 2k avg dmg and 50% WR with 100% exp personal reserves while considering drinking myself into a coma. 

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View PostAngelofAwe, on 13 December 2017 - 06:31 PM, said:

If I had any gold to spend WG would have successfully made me free exp past this turd.
Instead I'm playing it at sub 2k avg dmg and 50% WR with 100% exp personal reserves while considering drinking myself into a coma. 

 

Tequila is the choice for that.

arthurwellsley #11 Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:37 PM

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New french VIII heavy confirmed bad if the one of the forumites two heavy tank experts cannot make it work (one is legasiini, the other is Urquan). I await Urquan's comments on it.

 

Also if AoA only has 50% wr in it, it must be bad.

 

Shock horror. WG releases new tank. It's UP. Oh my goodness they must have messed up? OR

 

Unless the tier IX or X are actually worth it, and this is the rubbish tank in the line that begs players to spend free exp to go past it to get to the good bits?


Edited by arthurwellsley, 13 December 2017 - 06:38 PM.


Afdass #12 Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:37 PM

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If the tank is as it was on the test server, than is a total cancer. Huge turret that can be pennetrated on that little slope below the gun, hull armor non-existant and a meh gun and slugish mobility. Played one game on the test server with this to see what to expect if someday I would want to give it a try, I decided to not.

Strange_Neighbour #13 Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:50 PM

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The only really good thing about this tank was the 325mm APCR, which was changed (thankfully because that was Defender-levels of dumb). 

Sfinski #14 Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:59 PM

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This is worse than TVP. Can't even fight Defenders with this...

fanta_freake #15 Posted 13 December 2017 - 07:15 PM

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Jesus guys. I dont say it should be overpowered. But use your [edited]brain. This tank is so bad.

Balc0ra #16 Posted 13 December 2017 - 07:18 PM

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The mobility with the stock engine and track is just terrible. You know it's bad when even a Jap HT just rolls past you like it was a light.

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View PostSfinski, on 13 December 2017 - 06:59 PM, said:

This is worse than TVP. Can't even fight Defenders with this...

 

Any tank with 150mm pen can, you just gotta l2snipe. :))))

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 13 December 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

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Unless the tier IX or X are actually worth it, and this is the rubbish tank in the line that begs players to spend free exp to go past it to get to the good bits?

 

I believe the M4 45 is supposed to be the rubbish tank in the line. Darnit.

 

View Postleggasiini, on 13 December 2017 - 05:16 PM, said:

 

Not just VK 100.01 P, most of tier 8 HTs are flat out better than this thing.

 

Hell, looking at it, even Tiger II is just better than this (similar mobility, better hull armor (lol), less fat (lol), gun is better at everything apart from base pen), Tiger II of all things!

 

Pierre: Zhit gais, we need to design le Char (tank) du Combat for after ze war!

Antoiné: But I'm le tiired.

Pierre: Well, then, have a nap. BUT THEN MAKE ZE CHAR DU COMBAT FROM ZE TIGRE ROI!

Antoiné: ....oui, Monsieur Pierre:

 

While not strictly true, the French seemed to only consider remaking the Tiger 2/Panther or basing a domestic design on, well, the B1. The 65t turd followed suit.



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Another thing I've noticed. Top speed is listed as 40. But with the middle engine, the highest I've seen on flat ground on medium terrain is 25.

dennez #20 Posted 13 December 2017 - 07:58 PM

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Just played my first game in it. Kharkov and complimentary first game in tier 8. 3K dmg, but only because the other team was retarded.

The 120mm gun handles quite well, armor is crap, though it will reliably bounce 200-ish pen and below. Its slow as molasses (40kph my [edited]) and it has no single redeeming factor whatsoever. Except for the 400 alpha, albeit with bad dpm (12 sec reload). I can imagine the joy of playing this in tier X games. I'd much much much rather be in an Emil I or any other tier 8 for that matter. Haven't tried the 100mm gun, but if it handles even worse than on the Liberte i wont be arsed to change it. 

 

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