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McB0t #1 Posted 16 December 2017 - 07:47 PM

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Hi Guys,

 

We all know that if you want to be decisive in randoms, the tier 10 light tanks are not the best option. Even so, as you can see in the screenshot below, inside the light tanks group, the Sheridan is the one with the worst average winrate:

 

What's the point of a tier 10 light tank like that? Seeing how are the light tanks right now, I think it would have been better to leave them in tier 8 as they were before. What do you think about it?

 

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qpranger #2 Posted 16 December 2017 - 07:51 PM

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Sheridan is shite.

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commer #3 Posted 16 December 2017 - 07:54 PM

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I'm surprised 13 105 is above 50%

Hiisi #4 Posted 16 December 2017 - 07:54 PM

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Well lights are underpowered, specially tier 10 lights. Worst is by far reinmetall panzerwagen. Sheridans alfa was buffed. Try not to look global winrate. Wr curves are a lot better. 

OreH75 #5 Posted 16 December 2017 - 08:08 PM

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View PostHiisi, on 16 December 2017 - 07:54 PM, said:

Well lights are underpowered, specially tier 10 lights. Worst is by far reinmetall panzerwagen. Sheridans alfa was buffed. Try not to look global winrate. Wr curves are a lot better. 

Not really, they are just easy to learn but hard to master. Especially in Tier X a mistake gets punished hard..if they would be buffed I would expect a lot of "Tier X lights are OP, please nerf!" topics...



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View PostOreH75, on 16 December 2017 - 08:08 PM, said:

Not really, they are just easy to learn but hard to master. Especially in Tier X a mistake gets punished hard..if they would be buffed I would expect a lot of "Tier X lights are OP, please nerf!" topics...

 

They underperform acording to WR statistics. Even very strong players get worse wr in them (on average of course). Also yeah people always complain about tanks using vision but they are UP. 

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View Postcommer, on 16 December 2017 - 08:45 PM, said:

 

They underperform acording to WR statistics. Even very strong players get worse wr in them (on average of course). Also yeah people always complain about tanks using vision but they are UP. 

 

But does that make them UP? It are light tanks after all with less armour and HP to trade, so their carry potential (and thus winrate) should be lower then for example HT and MT.

call_me_ShockZz #8 Posted 17 December 2017 - 02:26 AM

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Im performing very well in it (number 1 in the hall of fame in december so far), but to be honest it doesnt really matter.. this tank clearly isnt capable to carry your team

 

I dont know why it isnt capable though..



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Fun fact: serverwide average WR is 48.6%

WojtekTheBear #10 Posted 17 December 2017 - 04:28 AM

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Current MM matches tanks of the same type. It's very rare that one team has a different number of lights than the other. This means that low win rate of lights is not related them being weaker as a class.

Pandabird #11 Posted 17 December 2017 - 10:07 AM

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They carry too high MM weight for their own good with current meta and map rotation.

 

 



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Because lots of people use the DERP gun on this tank for fun and play it the way it's meant to be played, like the KV-2 and other meme-tanks.

 

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Balc0ra #13 Posted 17 December 2017 - 10:31 AM

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View PostCobra6, on 17 December 2017 - 10:09 AM, said:

Because lots of people use the DERP gun on this tank for fun and play it the way it's meant to be played, like the KV-2 and other meme-tanks.

 

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This. It's like the T49. The 90mm has more DPM vs the derp if you fully pen each HE shot. And still more use the derp to get 300 damage rolls on it.

 

The Sheridan's I've seen have yolo charged a group to do a drive by on it with the derp, does almost no damage and gets taken out. 105mm Sheridan's won't do that.


Edited by Balc0ra, 17 December 2017 - 01:39 PM.


clixor #14 Posted 17 December 2017 - 11:47 AM

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View Postcommer, on 16 December 2017 - 07:54 PM, said:

I'm surprised 13 105 is above 50%

 

If anything, 105 should be, at least, average, even with the worst mm you can do quite a substantial amount of dmg with a single clip. And also, it prevents tier10 meds from yolo-ing you. My guess is that's the reason the sheridan performs so bad. And speaking of the sheridan, imo it doesnt really have that much special going for it. The t49 had the derp, which works because the t49 faces less armored opponents. Against mauses and the like he isn't going to do you very well. 

Edited by clixor, 17 December 2017 - 11:47 AM.


Spek_en_Bonen #15 Posted 17 December 2017 - 11:48 AM

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People want you to spot.

But it's as big as a house and doesn't have adequate camouflage or mobility.

 

Anecdotal:  Pen a t62A from the front, with autoaim, with regular APCR ammo. 3x times in a row.

Must have been my lucky day....

 

My ratings are suckzorz though...



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Overall poor wr value for sheridan is because bulldog was op in anyones hands. Now that bulldog is a bit underperforming most players have bought t49 or sheridan instead. Also most players use derp gun for lols, so thats the reason for poor global wr. Also alfa buff is fresh, so its effect is tiny for global wr.

Edited by Hiisi, 17 December 2017 - 11:52 AM.


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View PostOreH75, on 16 December 2017 - 09:56 PM, said:

 

But does that make them UP? It are light tanks after all with less armour and HP to trade, so their carry potential (and thus winrate) should be lower then for example HT and MT.

 

Are you really arguing a tank that wins less is not underpowered? This is the exact definition of underpowered. A perfectly balanced tank should correlate 1:1 with players recent WR (again on average, not for a particular player)

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View PostWojtekTheBear, on 17 December 2017 - 03:28 AM, said:

Current MM matches tanks of the same type. It's very rare that one team has a different number of lights than the other.

 

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

Nishi_Kinuyo #19 Posted 17 December 2017 - 05:18 PM

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Funfact: VBAddict is a cherry-picked site.

EU: 48,1% Global WR. 48,43% Recent WR.

RU: 48,22% Global WR. 48,59% Recent WR.

US: 47.52% Global WR. 47,97% Tecent WR.

SEA: 47,73% Global WR. 48,19% Recent WR.

 

WR Curves show it underperforms for all players on all servers.

Source: WoT-News.

http://wot-news.com/.../usa/A116_XM551

 

Funfact: Chi-Ri is a better tank tier-for-tier going by winrates alone.


Edited by Nishi_Kinuyo, 17 December 2017 - 05:18 PM.


thetopcat #20 Posted 23 December 2017 - 02:26 AM

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I struggle in the Rhm.Pzw, Average 1839dm per game and i'm at 43.86% win rate.
Doing a fair amount of spotting too so not sure if i'm just unlucky, but i'm at 68% on mark of excellence so i cant be that bad  




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