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PoIestar #1 Posted 19 December 2017 - 11:43 PM

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Bit of a controversial one here, but here's my opinion at the moment.

WG pulled the Foch and FV120 trick on the FV215b 183: it gets replaced, becomes a reward vehicle, you get both the Badger and FV for free as FV owner. Great!

However, a few "unlucky" ones were not able to make it in time to get their hands on the FV183. Which is a shame, because it's one of the most feared tanks on the battlefield.

 

If you were one of those people and want to kick yourself for not picking up the FV183 in time, don't. It's the most frustrating, wasteful, and mostly useless tank in the game.

 

Now if you're a tank collector and missed out on it, valid reason. But also the only reason for not picking it up to be a thing of sadness. Playing that thing in current meta is as if you please yourself by setting your hair on fire, drink diesel and listen to Despacito all day. Sounds like fun, but when you try it you discover you're wrecking yourself out of sheer discomfort and agony.

 

Reasons? Well should there be any? The gun is reason enough. Literally the only thing worthwhile is the 1750 alpha. Every. Other. Stat. Is. Totally. Useless. And expensive as phuck...

Then firing AP, which seems to be the obvious thing to do, makes the tank just a more useless JPE 100. And to me the JPE 100 is becoming more and more useless because of its skyscraper size and HEAT absorbing armor.

 

If you get penned by a HESH round from a 183, it might ruin your day, but think of it as a revelation for the FV driver. After all the agony he went through, penning a shell is just such a relief. Sounds weird, but I've had that tank for a few years now, and I can't remember the last time I penned a HESH shell, if I even did that anyway since the pen got nerfed to tier 8 levels.

If you're looking at FV183's and think: "dayum, I wish I had that", you will never wish you had it! It's like wishing you had an illness!

 

I don't know if the same applies for the FV4005, but I imagine, with that gun, it might be the same story.

 

Also thanks for reading, this might just be a text straight from the heart but I thought I'd share it, just to give some insight.

 

And no, I'm not trying to make the tank more rare so I can profit from its rarity in a few months, honestly :hiding:



Baldrickk #2 Posted 19 December 2017 - 11:46 PM

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I've played one game in mine so far.
Did ok in it, which is rare for me in a brand new vehicle.

Tons of fun better than the Torty

PoIestar #3 Posted 19 December 2017 - 11:49 PM

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View PostBaldrickk, on 19 December 2017 - 11:46 PM, said:

Tons of fun better than the Torty

If this is true I'm glad I never played the Tortoise.



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I didn't play the 183 on SB for good reasons. Slow and armor that only as mentioned previously slows you down and is useless when everybody taps the skill key anyway. Gameplay on the FV4005 was quite interesting but i'm not in a rush to get there. Challenger and Charioteer are quite fun too especially the HESH rounds on latter if you pick the right targets.  

Taika_Apina #5 Posted 20 December 2017 - 12:02 AM

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Oh they removed the FV 183 from the game. I got it mostly just to have it since I didn't plan on really playing it much since I never used prem ammo. It was fine with AP and few HE rounds but not really anything special. I don't think you really missed much if you didn't get it. I feel like it was more of a meme tank with the HESH rounds.

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I bought it because it was 4 millions and I read that Badger is op. From what I've seen FV4005 is much better. I still haven't played a single game with FV215b 183. It would've been nice to get some credits if I sell it.

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How is 183 with AP a shitty JgE100? At least you have a semi-turret, without that god awful narrow gun arc on teh JgE100.

BertDastard #8 Posted 20 December 2017 - 12:49 AM

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I'ma waiting a few years until everyone who has one moves on. Then I'ma gonna bring it out and scare the bejesus out of everyone. Almost as good as an occasional pen

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View PostPoIestar, on 19 December 2017 - 10:43 PM, said:

If you were one of those people and want to kick yourself for not picking up the FV183 in time, don't. It's the most frustrating, wasteful, and mostly useless tank in the game.

 

 Thanks for the post Polestar. I played it on test, was grinding the AT15 with about a week to go and just lost the will to live. There was no way I was going to go through the Tortoise to play a tank I knew was like marmite.

 

 


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View PostPoIestar, on 19 December 2017 - 10:43 PM, said:

I don't know if the same applies for the FV4005, but I imagine, with that gun, it might be the same story.

 

FV215b 183 has just enough armour to use hulldown or sidecraping positions but not enough to push with.

 

FV4005 is a more agile peekaboom tank with a mid turret and better gun traverse which has to vanish between shots due to gigantic paper turret and often be forced to do health trades for each shot.

 

They have to be second line support or in a pack of other tanks. Each has to be positioned differently but it's basically the same story. Trying to get a bad tank into a good position to take your long reload shot and get out safely because you're worthless and defenceless without a loaded shell.

 

You have to go with the RNG, hope the shell you loaded 30s ago is good for the targets which show up and be as sneaky as you can be from the second line.

 

So in a nutshell it's kinda the same in a different way for the FV4005.



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Death star is nice. Because of his limited back turret, you will learn side angling in close combat. From long range you will miss many shots. Use HE, you will be able to pen the side of IS-7 with them. Go with the best armoured HT from your team in battle, after his shots enemies will appear to shoot him back ynd you can give them some crits. FVB 183it's a nice tank because is very complicated to play him

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View PostPoIestar, on 19 December 2017 - 11:43 PM, said:

Bit of a controversial one here, but here's my opinion at the moment.

WG pulled the Foch and FV120 trick on the FV215b 183: it gets replaced, becomes a reward vehicle, you get both the Badger and FV for free as FV owner. Great!

However, a few "unlucky" ones were not able to make it in time to get their hands on the FV183. Which is a shame, because it's one of the most feared tanks on the battlefield.

 

If you were one of those people and want to kick yourself for not picking up the FV183 in time, don't. It's the most frustrating, wasteful, and mostly useless tank in the game.

 

Now if you're a tank collector and missed out on it, valid reason. But also the only reason for not picking it up to be a thing of sadness. Playing that thing in current meta is as if you please yourself by setting your hair on fire, drink diesel and listen to Despacito all day. Sounds like fun, but when you try it you discover you're wrecking yourself out of sheer discomfort and agony.

 

Reasons? Well should there be any? The gun is reason enough. Literally the only thing worthwhile is the 1750 alpha. Every. Other. Stat. Is. Totally. Useless. And expensive as phuck...

Then firing AP, which seems to be the obvious thing to do, makes the tank just a more useless JPE 100. And to me the JPE 100 is becoming more and more useless because of its skyscraper size and HEAT absorbing armor.

 

If you get penned by a HESH round from a 183, it might ruin your day, but think of it as a revelation for the FV driver. After all the agony he went through, penning a shell is just such a relief. Sounds weird, but I've had that tank for a few years now, and I can't remember the last time I penned a HESH shell, if I even did that anyway since the pen got nerfed to tier 8 levels.

If you're looking at FV183's and think: "dayum, I wish I had that", you will never wish you had it! It's like wishing you had an illness!

 

I don't know if the same applies for the FV4005, but I imagine, with that gun, it might be the same story.

 

Also thanks for reading, this might just be a text straight from the heart but I thought I'd share it, just to give some insight.

 

And no, I'm not trying to make the tank more rare so I can profit from its rarity in a few months, honestly :hiding:

 

bb bbb bbbbbut when you one shot any tank it sure feels... unique  :(:(:( 

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Only thing i have about this FV215b(183) is im not really sure about those 310pen with AP (point a Strv M103B at any target and its 308pen will pen anything, everytime, Magic?), Its just so many times where its an abvious 100% pen, that the game just blows you and you hear "we didnt even scratch them." WTF ? 310 pen, and not a single dent ? I better shift to HEAT then, BOOOM 500 damage and 8000 creditos gone.. Meeeehhhh... then occasionally you have a highstreak of 1100 with AP and a good one with HEAT too, but its waaaaay to seldom. 

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Just one fundamental thing is being forgotten here, and that is it isn't unknown for WG to buff tanks that are no longer in regular service or other reward tanks. It has already been buffed after it was removed with the increase in ammo capacity, who's to say other aspects of it can't be further improved? 

Edited by 250swb, 20 December 2017 - 09:23 AM.


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View Postdimethylcadmium, on 20 December 2017 - 12:34 AM, said:

How is 183 with AP a shitty JgE100? At least you have a semi-turret, without that god awful narrow gun arc on teh JgE100.

A turret which barely turns, and the gun arc on the JP is good enough. In every other aspect the JP is just better. Period.



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View PostSTLR, on 20 December 2017 - 08:23 AM, said:

 

bb bbb bbbbbut when you one shot any tank it sure feels... unique  :(:(:( 

 

Unique as a moon eclipse. Same frequency of appearance, too.

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View Postetody77, on 20 December 2017 - 07:30 AM, said:

Death star is nice. Because of his limited back turret, you will learn side angling in close combat. From long range you will miss many shots. Use HE, you will be able to pen the side of IS-7 with them. Go with the best armoured HT from your team in battle, after his shots enemies will appear to shoot him back ynd you can give them some crits. FVB 183it's a nice tank because is very complicated to play him

 

I am really curious how this ever worked out for you.

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View Postdimethylcadmium, on 19 December 2017 - 11:34 PM, said:

How is 183 with AP a shitty JgE100? At least you have a semi-turret, without that god awful narrow gun arc on teh JgE100.

 

Worse armour massively, no better mobility, much worse gun handling, less HP. 

 

It's all round a worse vehicle and the JpE100 is pretty poor in itself.

 

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The 183 has always been a meme vehicle, to be honest I'd have prefered if they had either removed both or seriously re-worked them so they weren't based around massive alpha. 

 

The Badger is not much better, they have replaced one highly situational one tricky pony with a different situational one trick pony. 



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View PostPoIestar, on 19 December 2017 - 11:43 PM, said:

If you get penned by a HESH round from a 183, it might ruin your day, but think of it as a revelation for the FV driver. After all the agony he went through, penning a shell is just such a relief.

 

Must have made somebody's day then when they 1-clicked my full hp Primo Victoria last week. :arta:

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View Post250swb, on 20 December 2017 - 09:22 AM, said:

Just one fundamental thing is being forgotten here, and that is it isn't unknown for WG to buff tanks that are no longer in regular service or other reward tanks. It has already been buffed after it was removed with the increase in ammo capacity, who's to say other aspects of it can't be further improved? 

 

They told about decreasing alpha and increasing reload time, but they dont told when will hapen




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