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Noo_Noo #41 Posted 20 December 2017 - 10:01 PM

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View PostSpurtung, on 20 December 2017 - 09:03 PM, said:

 

Another one that is oblivious to sarcasm. 

I think you'd better read the thread in the link you provided. You'll find that I've posted in there and it may actually reveal my thoughts on premium ammo. 

 

Note to oneself; State things blatantly obvious on WoT forum. Do not use humour, do not use sarcasm. 



Spurtung #42 Posted 20 December 2017 - 10:07 PM

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View PostNoo_Noo, on 20 December 2017 - 11:01 PM, said:

 

Another one that is oblivious to sarcasm. 

I think you'd better read the thread in the link you provided. You'll find that I've posted in there and it may actually reveal my thoughts on premium ammo. 

 

Note to oneself; State things blatantly obvious on WoT forum. Do not use humour, do not use sarcasm. 

 

Sarcasm is fine, when well done, or you risk being perceived as the village idiot while you pedantically feel your sarcasm is of an higher order.

ZlatanArKung #43 Posted 20 December 2017 - 10:19 PM

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To the title. My account is rigged to win.

JocMeister #44 Posted 20 December 2017 - 10:21 PM

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View Postcv202, on 20 December 2017 - 09:52 PM, said:

 

I actually got 60% WR after 70 or so games with my IS-4 so I am no stranger to higher tier games.  I´ve played 7.5k battles in 3 months, an average of I think 70 a day or so. I´ve had streaks of 20 wins or 20 losses, but lately it´s been heavily noticeable. The only thing that changed is that I moved to Spain 3 days ago instead of my usual location in Germany. 

 

One thing about your comment to consider is that my overall WR is heavily influenced by my first few thousand games where I was terrible. I didnt reroll so I have been improving quite a lot to increase my WR  lately.

 

I am under no illusion that posting this here will change a thing, I am merely contributing my own experiences to the discussion. Shared misery is half the misery or something like that, right?

 

P.S.: When I platoon with clanmates it¨s more like 50% WR, but I am talking about solo play.  Oh and I notice in XVM the enemy teams have lately been skewed against me colour wise. 

 

As I said. Yesterday I had 42% WR over 40 battles. Today I have 67% WR over 58 battles. You shouldn´t look at WR or stats per daily basis as it fluctuates. If you feel the need to check stats then do it on a weekly basis. Daily statistics tell you nothing as everyone has good and bad streaks. My personal record is 16 losses in a row. Two days later I played something like 50 games and had over 80% WR. It evens out eventually and that is why you should never look at stats every day. Don´t obsess about the stats. Just play to the best of your ability and try to improve a little every day. 

 

PS. Your recent WR (last 1k battles) is 48.67 which is very close to your overall average (48.36). So your stats are not "dragged down" by your early battles that much. 


Edited by JocMeister, 20 December 2017 - 10:21 PM.


Noo_Noo #45 Posted 20 December 2017 - 10:40 PM

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View PostSpurtung, on 20 December 2017 - 10:07 PM, said:

 

Sarcasm is fine, when well done, or you risk being perceived as the village idiot while you pedantically feel your sarcasm is of an higher order.

 

LOL. At least I know what it is!!!

Edited by Noo_Noo, 20 December 2017 - 10:41 PM.


Spurtung #46 Posted 20 December 2017 - 10:43 PM

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View PostNoo_Noo, on 20 December 2017 - 11:40 PM, said:

LOL. At least I know what it is!!!

Cool.



_Anarchistic_ #47 Posted 20 December 2017 - 11:37 PM

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only on my bad days

Pvt_Duffer #48 Posted 21 December 2017 - 12:41 AM

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Mine is rigged to win, but I have learned how to beat the system, don't tell anyone.

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znapper74 #49 Posted 21 December 2017 - 02:40 AM

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It's rigged, you bet your bottom-dollar it is.

 

Here are my stats for the past 24h and 30 days.

 

If it wasn't rigged, it would hover around 50, but this sorryass spectacle kinda give a tell-tale sign that things aren't random at all.

 

I played the arty the whole day today, and I think we actually won only 3 times......3! (or 4).

Russian [edited]matrix adjusting itself, since I suppose I am not allowed to pass the 50% barrier overall.

 

jinxed.jpg

 


Edited by znapper74, 21 December 2017 - 02:42 AM.


JocMeister #50 Posted 21 December 2017 - 06:53 AM

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View Postznapper74, on 21 December 2017 - 02:40 AM, said:

It's rigged, you bet your bottom-dollar it is.

 

Here are my stats for the past 24h and 30 days.

 

If it wasn't rigged, it would hover around 50, but this sorryass spectacle kinda give a tell-tale sign that things aren't random at all.

 

I played the arty the whole day today, and I think we actually won only 3 times......3! (or 4).

Russian [edited]matrix adjusting itself, since I suppose I am not allowed to pass the 50% barrier overall.

 

jinxed.jpg

 

 

Don´t play arty if you want to have an impact on your WR. My WR always drops when I play arty as you have little control over the battle.

 

 



kurcatovium #51 Posted 21 December 2017 - 07:47 AM

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This is the best topic I've seen for a while. Looks like not everyone unlucky needs to make up conspiracy theories and some people are willing to open their eyes. That's impressive!

kurcatovium #52 Posted 21 December 2017 - 07:51 AM

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View Postznapper74, on 21 December 2017 - 02:40 AM, said:

It's rigged, you bet your bottom-dollar it is.

 

Here are my stats for the past 24h and 30 days.

 

If it wasn't rigged, it would hover around 50, but this sorryass spectacle kinda give a tell-tale sign that things aren't random at all.

 

I played the arty the whole day today, and I think we actually won only 3 times......3! (or 4).

Russian [edited]matrix adjusting itself, since I suppose I am not allowed to pass the 50% barrier overall.

 

jinxed.jpg

 

 

Let me tell you a secret.

Past 24 hours winrate means absolutely nothing.

Past 7 days winrate means almost equal nothing.

Past 30 days (500+ battles) winrate finally means something.

 

Looking at your screen, it's perfectly fine. That 1/7 days winrate is just "bad luck" that you adjusted even more by playing arty. But once you look at something more valid (30 day) it is nearly the same as your overall, which is exactly what you deserve. Simple, no conspiracy needed.


Edited by kurcatovium, 21 December 2017 - 07:52 AM.


TankkiPoju #53 Posted 21 December 2017 - 08:11 AM

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Unfortunately this won't really change anything, people will still think the game is filled with cheaters and accounts have been rigged.

 

It's because many people just can't accept the reality they are bad at this game.



TheOneAboveAII #54 Posted 21 December 2017 - 08:32 AM

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Lose...i swear...yesterday...i had the most retarded teams i ever had...and it's getting worse...i got to a point where i give up and i'd rather watch youtube or streamers than play the game with so many idiots...not only bad players...but stupid players who are there just to [edited]up your game...they install xvm...look at their teamlist...and will follow the one with the most wn8 in their team..be it 1k, 2k, 3k, etc...and when he's close to the enemy...just push him in front of enemies...and after you die...they are like...so what? What you gonna do? Report me? Ahahaha...and you know you can't do crapabout it...because the report system IS F U C K I N G USELESS!!!

BravelyRanAway #55 Posted 21 December 2017 - 09:01 AM

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View Postznapper74, on 21 December 2017 - 01:40 AM, said:

It's rigged, you bet your bottom-dollar it is.

 

Here are my stats for the past 24h and 30 days.

So....no real change then.



Baldrickk #56 Posted 21 December 2017 - 09:19 AM

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Anyone want to find out?

https://github.com/B...ay_team_balance

Instructions:

It checks all your replays, and compares your teammates to the enemy team.

 

FYI:

My results:

 My team's average rating:
        4464.837769964842
The other team's average rating:
        4529.504636133745

Since 9.18 hit (when I had a clear-out) the opposition team has been on average 1.4% better* than my team-mates.

 

*on the assumption that WG rating is linear.

 


Edited by Baldrickk, 21 December 2017 - 09:27 AM.


Enterprise_NCC1701A #57 Posted 21 December 2017 - 09:38 AM

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I read only the premise and first reply. Nice try to prove what you want, but statistics work in a different way. If i give my account to a better player, obviously he will perform better and stats will rise. Now if you want to prove IF game is rigged, you must do something else. PLAY 300 games with standard account + standard tanks. Then play ANOTHER 300 games with premium account + premium vehicles (NOTE: Do not consider as premium tanks all those ''premium'' gifted, ZERO REAL MONEY PAIED). Then confront results and tell us about. DON'T CONSIDER gold shells, this argument is for infants like the one with the gold challenge who tries to exploit stupid little kids who believe that gold spamming makes you unicum (It doesn't because it is for FREE, GOLD SHELLS=COINS IN GAME... NO REALLY MONEY SPENT!!!)

When you want to make a ''statistical behavior'' of a population, don't change population (in this case you), change the variables (premium account, premium tanks, tier, type).

 

AND AS IT IS SAID, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!



Cannes76 #58 Posted 21 December 2017 - 11:52 AM

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Maybe the WG MM system is just smart enough to know who is playing the account! Facial recoqnition software hacked into all cameras around the globe! Ever think of that?

OreH75 #59 Posted 21 December 2017 - 01:48 PM

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View PostEnterprise_NCC1701A, on 21 December 2017 - 09:38 AM, said:

I read only the premise and first reply. Nice try to prove what you want, but statistics work in a different way. If i give my account to a better player, obviously he will perform better and stats will rise. Now if you want to prove IF game is rigged, you must do something else. PLAY 300 games with standard account + standard tanks. Then play ANOTHER 300 games with premium account + premium vehicles (NOTE: Do not consider as premium tanks all those ''premium'' gifted, ZERO REAL MONEY PAIED). Then confront results and tell us about. DON'T CONSIDER gold shells, this argument is for infants like the one with the gold challenge who tries to exploit stupid little kids who believe that gold spamming makes you unicum (It doesn't because it is for FREE, GOLD SHELLS=COINS IN GAME... NO REALLY MONEY SPENT!!!)

When you want to make a ''statistical behavior'' of a population, don't change population (in this case you), change the variables (premium account, premium tanks, tier, type).

 

AND AS IT IS SAID, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!

 

Ok, explain this then

 

My American light stats (premium account, enough premium shells):                   Average DMG          Average XP         #Battles   ePeenSeJASN7.png

winrates: 58.0% on T37 and 56.3 % on T49.

 

And my "free-to-play-to-get-T95E2-on-main" account American light stats (No premium account, no premium ammo on T37 and only 5 on T49).

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winrates: 56.3% on T37 and 49.9 % on T49.

 

Same person, same PC, same tanks, decent crews on both accounts and I played alt before or after main on the same days and I manage to get comparable results for average dmg. Of course I perform slightly better on my main probably because I care and because of the available premium shells which allow for the 1 or 2 more shots of damage when needed but as my alt shows its perfectly doable to reach unicum average dmg without spamming premium shells and using premium account.

Winrate is clearly lower on alt mainly due to the fact I dont care (as much) about winrate when playing that account. 

 


Edited by OreH75, 21 December 2017 - 01:54 PM.


malachi6 #60 Posted 21 December 2017 - 01:49 PM

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How many variables were removed / mitigated?

 

Both premium / standard.

Same tanks played.

Same ammo fired.

Player tiredness / distraction level.

Time of day.

 

Your results are flawed if you took non of this into consideration. And more.






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