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Buff the IKV 103 gun a little bit


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deadman_38 #1 Posted 20 December 2017 - 06:05 PM

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This is maybe the wrong page.

Right know I like the swedish tier 5 Td I have 2 marks on it and almost the third but a lot dont like it.
What I think what should get buffed on the IKV 103 is mainly the gun. The only options of ammunition you can select from is HEAT and HEAT. But the different in pen is ludicrous. 120 mm penetration on standard and ONLY 20 mm more on the premium ammunition. And a draw back is that heat can't go through spacedarmor so well. And a another draw back is that the gun can't use HE. For example if I meet a toaster alone on Full HP than I don't have a big chance to win, because of the gun relaod slowly. And the toaster can fire HE and penetrate certainly. So if you can one shot some tanks than you have a bigger chance too survive.
About the Heat shells the penetration should be buffed on the standard to 130 or 135 and HEAT premium to 150 or 155. Because with 120 penetration on standard you can't penetrate most of some tier 5 HTs, so why even bother to try fire against tier 6 and 7 HTs.

Edited by deadman_38, 20 December 2017 - 06:07 PM.


SuedKAT #2 Posted 20 December 2017 - 06:07 PM

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It's one of the worst tanks I've ever played, with decent shell velocity and HE as an option it would be decent so yes please. An AMX 40 is a fearsome enemy for the HEAT of the IKV103, I'd rather face a unicum in a Hellcat.

blsbill #3 Posted 20 December 2017 - 09:19 PM

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worst swedish tank tier for tier.terrible ammo options and aim time...lucks the pen too...

Excavatus #4 Posted 21 December 2017 - 08:20 AM

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it is a one trick pony...

but take that as a holy signal..

the rest of the sweedish TD line are the same..

the trick changes.. but the "One trick pony" aspect doesnt.

 

They all are highly situational. you will have an epic game in them or fail miserably.

No middle point.



ZlatanArKung #5 Posted 21 December 2017 - 08:23 AM

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View Postdeadman_38, on 20 December 2017 - 06:05 PM, said:

This is maybe the wrong page.

Right know I like the swedish tier 5 Td I have 2 marks on it and almost the third but a lot dont like it.
What I think what should get buffed on the IKV 103 is mainly the gun. The only options of ammunition you can select from is HEAT and HEAT. But the different in pen is ludicrous. 120 mm penetration on standard and ONLY 20 mm more on the premium ammunition. And a draw back is that heat can't go through spacedarmor so well. And a another draw back is that the gun can't use HE. For example if I meet a toaster alone on Full HP than I don't have a big chance to win, because of the gun relaod slowly. And the toaster can fire HE and penetrate certainly. So if you can one shot some tanks than you have a bigger chance too survive.
About the Heat shells the penetration should be buffed on the standard to 130 or 135 and HEAT premium to 150 or 155. Because with 120 penetration on standard you can't penetrate most of some tier 5 HTs, so why even bother to try fire against tier 6 and 7 HTs.

I liked that tank.

Fast with good camo and a gun with high alpha. 

Only change I would do is to give it a standard rounds of AP with 120 pen. A premium of HEAT with like 160-180 and an HE round.



jack_timber #6 Posted 21 December 2017 - 11:52 AM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 21 December 2017 - 07:23 AM, said:

I liked that tank.

Fast with good camo and a gun with high alpha. 

Only change I would do is to give it a standard rounds of AP with 120 pen. A premium of HEAT with like 160-180 and an HE round.

 

Totally agree. Tend to use premium ammo may just have a chance to pen. 

I still like it take it out maybe once a night.

 



MR_FIAT #7 Posted 21 December 2017 - 11:55 AM

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A decent HE shell for the topgun would have done wonders, Realy hated playing this thing. 

Pandabird #8 Posted 21 December 2017 - 01:08 PM

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It was a frustrating tank to perform in indeed.

 

I mean it has some redeeming features like a low profile, punchy alpha, fairly ok reload and decent mobility, but those bounces really hurt. Needless to say it's one of those tanks i've failed to maintain 50% wr in and frankly just given up on.



eldrak #9 Posted 21 December 2017 - 01:17 PM

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Played through it twice, on the invite account I think I used the stock gun all the way for HE purposes.

tanker818 #10 Posted 21 December 2017 - 07:21 PM

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buff :teethhappy:

Phobos4321 #11 Posted 21 December 2017 - 07:28 PM

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wasnt fun

but the T6 wasnt really better

now im at the T7 and guess i still dont like it thought it got a bit better with aimtime, pen. and dpm

 

since HEAT wont do anything when meating most T7 tanks i mostly used the stockgun with HE   thought vs most tanks it still dont really works



Blubba #12 Posted 21 December 2017 - 07:29 PM

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Shell velocity and optional HE round would have improved it for me. I hate it to be honest.

jack_timber #13 Posted 21 December 2017 - 07:35 PM

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View PostPhobos4321, on 21 December 2017 - 06:28 PM, said:

wasnt fun

but the T6 wasnt really better

now im at the T7 and guess i still dont like it thought it got a bit better with aimtime, pen. and dpm

 

since HEAT wont do anything when meating most T7 tanks i mostly used the stockgun with HE   thought vs most tanks it still dont really works

 

Ahh T8+ is where it gets much better...

K_A #14 Posted 21 December 2017 - 07:39 PM

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The Ikv gun is one of those that is complete shaite in most situations, but it gets into just enough of the god-like places where it pens 6 shots in a row in one game that the damage and winrate averages look just fine. It's really frustrating and you need to be extra careful in selecting your targets with it, but I doubt it will see major changes.

 

But yea, I think it would benefit a lot just by introducing regular HE alongside the two varieties of HEAT it has. It would give a viable ammo type option against many opponents that the HEAT just seems too finnicky against.






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