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TheOneAboveAII #1 Posted 21 December 2017 - 08:45 AM

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GET RID OF THE F-CKING 3-5-7!!!

It's just a f-cking joke...all this template does is make the team with the better players in the 3 top tier tanks to win the game because they win their little 3v3 between top tiers...and who wins that 3v3...wins the game 90% of the time...i'm literally tired of losing games because my 3 top tier tanks are useless...and after they die, their 3 top tiers tanks just W key us to death.

Put 5-10 or same tier before that stupid 3-5-7...ffs...even circon told you countless of times...if you don't listen to us...at least listen to your CCs...

I'd rather have the old MM...being the only tier 8 in a tier 10 game is way better than losing all games where your 3 tier 10 tanks suck...and their 3 tier 10 tanks can just W key you to death...at least before it was the entire team vs the entire team...not just that 3v3 between the top tiers.

Also...the Preferencial Matchmaking tanks...you might wanna do something about them...because when someone is top tier in an is6 for example...or 112...or etc...and he gets matched against a defender or vk P, lorr, etc...it's a huge disadvantage from the start.

But yeah...i'll just wait for y'all to come and tell me to f-ck off and stuff...wg won't read what their f-cking player base and customers post here...because you know...it is .eu and not .ru...so..yeah...cyka blyat...da, comrade? Da.


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jack_timber #2 Posted 21 December 2017 - 08:52 AM

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Well it's always good to express your views maybe some won't agree but it vents your frustration.

Now back to breakfast:)



h4ctor #3 Posted 21 December 2017 - 08:53 AM

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if you havent noticed,WG wants you to grind to tier 10 and then play only tier 10s because its the biggest money sink

krismorgan #4 Posted 21 December 2017 - 09:16 AM

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Agreed op but its just one of many problems.

__H3H3__ #5 Posted 21 December 2017 - 09:17 AM

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+1

PowJay #6 Posted 21 December 2017 - 09:31 AM

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Wrong thread. Sorry


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Enterprise_NCC1701A #7 Posted 21 December 2017 - 09:41 AM

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View PostTheOneAboveAII, on 21 December 2017 - 08:45 AM, said:

GET RID OF THE F-CKING 3-5-7!!!

It's just a f-cking joke...all this template does is make the team with the better players in the 3 top tier tanks to win the game because they win their little 3v3 between top tiers...and who wins that 3v3...wins the game 90% of the time...i'm literally tired of losing games because my 3 top tier tanks are useless...and after they die, their 3 top tiers tanks just W key us to death.

Put 5-10 or same tier before that stupid 3-5-7...ffs...even circon told you countless of times...if you don't listen to us...at least listen to your CCs...

I'd rather have the old MM...being the only tier 8 in a tier 10 game is way better than losing all games where your 3 tier 10 tanks suck...and their 3 tier 10 tanks can just W key you to death...at least before it was the entire team vs the entire team...not just that 3v3 between the top tiers.

Also...the Preferencial Matchmaking tanks...you might wanna do something about them...because when someone is top tier in an is6 for example...or 112...or etc...and he gets matched against a defender or vk P, lorr, etc...it's a huge disadvantage from the start.

But yeah...i'll just wait for y'all to come and tell me to f-ck off and stuff...wg won't read what their f-cking player base and customers post here...because you know...it is .eu and not .ru...so..yeah...cyka blyat...da, comrade? Da.

 

You are absolutely right, but no one will stand by your side. It is easier being a unicum as top tier in a heavy, rather than bottom tier in a light... And all this considered ''random''!

SirTogII #8 Posted 21 December 2017 - 09:47 AM

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I recommend Circons video from yesterday on this topic, highly amusing. I don’t know what side effects it would have but 5-10 MM as normal same tier MM second priority and 3-5-7 if all else fails as a back up seems reasonable

Enforcer1975 #9 Posted 21 December 2017 - 09:57 AM

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View PostEnterprise_NCC1701A, on 21 December 2017 - 09:41 AM, said:

 

You are absolutely right, but no one will stand by your side. It is easier being a unicum as top tier in a heavy, rather than bottom tier in a light... And all this considered ''random''!

Problem is that only 3-5 players are picked for the top spot in mm and it's a fact that there are just more bad players than good players which means you will always have more bad players across the range than good ones and even that is no guarantee since there are occasions where one team get's tomatoes and the other one unica in their top tiers but choosing by stats is not how mm picks players to form teams because that would not be random. 



Dava_117 #10 Posted 21 December 2017 - 10:02 AM

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Partially agree. As you said, I would like to get more +1 and +0 battle, as was in the first days after the MM patch (I really like the mm back then). But except if you get an OP tank as enemy toptier, you can have far more impact on the game as bottomtier now than in old mm. 

tajj7 #11 Posted 21 December 2017 - 10:27 AM

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From a playerbase point of view shifting the template priority to 5-10 > One tier > 3-5-7 would be great.

 

From a WG perspective maybe not though, their whole tech tree grind, get to tier 10 thing is basically based on the fact that tier 9 and 10 never get to be -2, so players grinding their tier 7 & 8 etc. tanks get into 3-5-7 games, get stomped by an E75 or Maus or whatever and they want that same opportunity and shiny tier 9 and 10 tank. 

 

Shift the MM so that -2 is much more rare, that incentive diminishes, less people furiously grinding > less premium time bought > less free XP converted > less gold bought etc. > less money for WG.

 

The only counter argument to this really is the tier 8 premiums, because they are a big source of WG money and they are getting screwed over so less people will want to buy them. 



TheOneAboveAII #12 Posted 21 December 2017 - 11:21 AM

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View Posttajj7, on 21 December 2017 - 10:27 AM, said:

From a playerbase point of view shifting the template priority to 5-10 > One tier > 3-5-7 would be great.

 

From a WG perspective maybe not though, their whole tech tree grind, get to tier 10 thing is basically based on the fact that tier 9 and 10 never get to be -2, so players grinding their tier 7 & 8 etc. tanks get into 3-5-7 games, get stomped by an E75 or Maus or whatever and they want that same opportunity and shiny tier 9 and 10 tank. 

 

Shift the MM so that -2 is much more rare, that incentive diminishes, less people furiously grinding > less premium time bought > less free XP converted > less gold bought etc. > less money for WG.

 

The only counter argument to this really is the tier 8 premiums, because they are a big source of WG money and they are getting screwed over so less people will want to buy them. 

So...what you say is that players getting f-cked by the mm get angry and will pay more money to get to tanks that are not fucked by the mm? Versus players that would like to play the game while not getting fucked by the mm...sure...if that's what wg is thinking...than me 5 years younger that slept in the marketing classes in highschool and that hates marketing has more marketing knowledge than their entire department of morons in their Minsk office.



tajj7 #13 Posted 21 December 2017 - 11:23 AM

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View PostTheOneAboveAII, on 21 December 2017 - 10:21 AM, said:

So...what you say is that players getting f-cked by the mm get angry and will pay more money to get to tanks that are not fucked by the mm? 

 

Basically yes and it's obvious why, it's why we have had -2 MM for such a long time.  

 

It's hardly like it hasn't work either. 



DracheimFlug #14 Posted 21 December 2017 - 11:49 AM

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View Posttajj7, on 21 December 2017 - 11:23 AM, said:

 

Basically yes and it's obvious why, it's why we have had -2 MM for such a long time.  

 

It's hardly like it hasn't work either. 

 

This is what I cannot understand about the complaining. It seems to me that it has been worse a long time, where when bottom tier you had more top tiers to face, and single tier matches were exceedingly rare. But I suppose people had the illusion that they could be top tier more often so therefore all was fine... 

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tajj7 #15 Posted 21 December 2017 - 11:55 AM

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View PostDracheimFlug, on 21 December 2017 - 10:49 AM, said:

 

This is what I cannot understand about the complaining. It seems to me that it has been worse a long time, where when bottom tier you had more top tiers to face, and single tier matches were exceedingly rare. But I suppose people had the illusion that they could be top tier more often... 

 

They could be top tier more often.

 

IIRC the number of top tier games a tier 8 got before the MM change was something like 40 - 45% based on various replay anaylsis, whereas now it's more like 20-25%.

 

WG tried to have their cake and eat it, they tried to keep the -2 there, so people still had that incentive to grind the higher tiers but they tried to make being bottom tier more comfortable, which it is, for being bottom tier 3-5-7 is much better than the old system where you could easily one of 1-4 tier 8s in a tier 10 game. 

 

Trouble is, it has mean that the number of bottom tier games has increased.

 

So generally people would prefer being top tier 45% of the time and bottom iter 20% of the time, even if they were basically useless in those bottom tier games, more than being top tier 20% of the time and bottom tier 60% of the time but those games are easier. 

 

But WG switching the priorities so that one tier and -1/+1 games become more common seems unlikely to me unless the impact on tier 8 premium sales has enough financial impact on them. 



Pvt_Duffer #16 Posted 21 December 2017 - 11:56 AM

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I don't get what the big deal is

 

NO-ONE complained when T8 Premium tanks found alone against 6TX and 7T9, on the either hand you were stil never bottom tier, because there was always some poor sod in a T7 light tank.

 

It is totally a perception problem, unless you played light tanks you were *never* bottom tier, now we throw away +3, and you are bottom tier, and worse you've even got light tanks that are higher tier than you.

 

Big whoop



XxKuzkina_MatxX #17 Posted 21 December 2017 - 12:09 PM

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But what if you are like me and don't like to play tier 10 or 9 that often and your favorite tiers are 7 and 8? Will that scheme be an incentive to free XP and buy premium time or to let it rot (no more money) and play your favorite tanks anyway until they come to their senses? I mean what good is playing an obj 140 when you actually prefer the T29?

Jahrakajin #18 Posted 21 December 2017 - 12:17 PM

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Please use the existing pinned Thread regarding the Matchmaker.

 

Also please try to avoid creating Threads for pure rants. The word choice is also not exactly polite. Generally speaking I think its possible to express your criticism without having to resort to profanity. 

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