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The_Georgian_One #1 Posted 22 December 2017 - 09:37 AM

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I'm finishing my RU grind (300k XP, ridiculous!) and am debating now what to do with the crew. I wasn't planning to buy RHM, cause I believe it's not good even after 'buffs'. Or is it? I have a 4 perk+ crew in RU now and the options are:

  •  Sell RU and forget about German lights, move crew to some other tank
  •  Buy PZW and use the crew there - this means I will have to move 1 crewman somewhere

 

I wasn't initially planning on buying RHM, as I have other LTs to do possible missions with, but maybe it's fun to play? I mean blitzing through battlefields faster than in RU can be fun and the gun on RHM is better, right? Right?

 

Also, suppose I'm not buying RHM - where would you invest 30% discount from the festive event if you were me? I have E50M unlocked (E50 in garage), I will soon have Leo 1 unlocked (potential to move RU crew there). I'm not convinced though I want or need both 10s, as 9s are keepers.

 

Other options are:

  •  50B - grinding through 50 120 now
  •  BC - I will re-buy it eventually
  •  Kranvagn - have it unlocked, but moved crew to Emil
  •  IS7 - possibly next line to finish grinding (haven't bought T10 yet).

help :(


Edited by The_Georgian_One, 22 December 2017 - 09:37 AM.


Tiger_Panzermeyer #2 Posted 22 December 2017 - 10:15 AM

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The only light tank that is worth buying is the t100lt the rest are not even in the same league,dat camo makes the difference between being a efficient scout and a dead scout.

From your options i would pick the is7,the speed buff made it extremely competitive,when u think about it most heavies are way slower and the chinese heavies have crap armor compared to is 7,especially when hull down.



tajj7 #3 Posted 22 December 2017 - 10:49 AM

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View PostTiger_Panzermeyer, on 22 December 2017 - 09:15 AM, said:

The only light tank that is worth buying is the t100lt 

 

No, none of them are IMO. They are all weak.

 

View PostThe_Georgian_One, on 22 December 2017 - 08:37 AM, said:

 

Other options are:

  •  50B - grinding through 50 120 now
  •  BC - I will re-buy it eventually
  •  Kranvagn - have it unlocked, but moved crew to Emil
  •  IS7 - possibly next line to finish grinding (haven't bought T10 yet).

help :(

 

 

I am in the same position regards using the tier 10 discount. 

 

Out of your options I'd say IS7 or 50B. 

 

I might re-buy my Kranvagn back but that really is only because I have a 6 skill crew for it that is basically doing nothing, it's not a great tank. I also have E100, Obj. 140, T110E4 that I might re-buy. 

 

At the moment I am more looking at re-buying tier 9s rather than tier 10s just because tier 9s seem in a better place at the moment. 

 



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To my understanding the discount doesnt expire. So slap it on what ever TX you want to get even though you May still be on T6 on that line for instance. Make sure you apply the discount before mid march though. 

Tiger_Panzermeyer #5 Posted 22 December 2017 - 10:56 AM

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''No, none of them are IMO. They are all weak.''

I was saying in the context of completing the missions,not for competitive gameplay,for that none of them have the dpm or the armor.



Swoopie #6 Posted 22 December 2017 - 11:01 AM

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View PostTiger_Panzermeyer, on 22 December 2017 - 11:56 AM, said:

''No, none of them are IMO. They are all weak.''

I was saying in the context of completing the missions,not for competitive gameplay,for that none of them have the dpm or the armor.

 

T100 is viable for competitive gameplay and it was actually used a lot last campaign.

 

Anyway for randoms the 13 105/Sheridan seem to be the most fun ones.



Pandabird #7 Posted 22 December 2017 - 11:03 AM

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Spent my token on Grille15 even though it sucks. 

 

Planning to collect all tier X one day so doesn't really matter.

 

Just get the RHM, i'm sure it's fun, probably in line of a buff eventually



Cobra6 #8 Posted 22 December 2017 - 11:07 AM

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I'm having fun in the 13 105 but it's certainly not what it should be in terms of gun.

 

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50B, BC or better IS-7

The_Georgian_One #10 Posted 22 December 2017 - 12:37 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 22 December 2017 - 10:49 AM, said:

 

At the moment I am more looking at re-buying tier 9s rather than tier 10s just because tier 9s seem in a better place at the moment.

 

 

That's the thing. I have all the 9s I'd like to have, except of maybe T10 and T95. I don't want another tier 10 to gather dust, so it has to be fun. Like M48 - I recently bought it and it's fun as heck.

View PostCobra6, on 22 December 2017 - 11:07 AM, said:

I'm having fun in the 13 105 but it's certainly not what it should be in terms of gun.

 

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Yep, 13 105 is fun. Small clip, 400 alpha, short reload, better gun depression than other lights in line or BC really helps.

 

I may go BC and IS7...will use current 15% discount to buy BC and apply 30% to IS7...hmmm...



Hedgehog1963 #11 Posted 22 December 2017 - 12:39 PM

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I bought the T110E5.  If I had another discount I'f buy the object 263.

tajj7 #12 Posted 22 December 2017 - 06:01 PM

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View PostTiger_Panzermeyer, on 22 December 2017 - 09:56 AM, said:

''No, none of them are IMO. They are all weak.''

I was saying in the context of completing the missions,not for competitive gameplay,for that none of them have the dpm or the armor.

 

Ah sorry, yeh for the missions, though I'd say they are all decent for that as they have the most HP and best guns of any lights in the game so for the damage.high spotting games they are the best, especially with access to Grand Battles.

 

For LT-15 the tier 10 lights make it relatively easy to what it used to be.

 

Also the tier 10 lights are fun, they just aren't very good. I have WZ, 13-105 and T100, I like all of them but I'd be better off playing meds. 



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View Posttajj7, on 22 December 2017 - 06:01 PM, said:

 

Ah sorry, yeh for the missions, though I'd say they are all decent for that as they have the most HP and best guns of any lights in the game so for the damage.high spotting games they are the best, especially with access to Grand Battles.

 

For LT-15 the tier 10 lights make it relatively easy to what it used to be.

 

Also the tier 10 lights are fun, they just aren't very good. I have WZ, 13-105 and T100, I like all of them but I'd be better off playing meds. 

 

What you forgetting is that you are mm-ed against another tier10 light, so at the point you neutralized the other light, and then just start to play support dmg, you'll be a huge asset to your team. Amx with autoload ofcourse is excellent for that, i got loads of 5k+ battles now already in amx. All you have to is to stop comparing lights to meds, because, yes, then they will mediocre.


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View PostSwoopie, on 22 December 2017 - 11:01 AM, said:

 

T100 is viable for competitive gameplay and it was actually used a lot last campaign.

 

Anyway for randoms the 13 105/Sheridan seem to be the most fun ones.

 

Yeah the Sheri is fun to play AND you have a choice between guns.

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View Postclixor, on 22 December 2017 - 05:13 PM, said:

 

What you forgetting is that you are mm-ed against another tier10 light, so at the point you neutralized the other light, and then just start to play support dmg, you'll be a huge asset to your team. Amx with autoload ofcourse is excellent for that, i got loads of 5k+ battles now already in amx. All you have to is to stop comparing lights to meds, because, yes, then they will mediocre.

 

I've just had a grand battle where i was the only tier 10 light tank and the enemy team had an extra medium so i don't think that's law. 
http://wotreplays.eu.../4023450#teams 

The_Georgian_One #16 Posted 23 December 2017 - 11:45 AM

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View Postthetopcat, on 23 December 2017 - 02:00 AM, said:

 

I've just had a grand battle where i was the only tier 10 light tank and the enemy team had an extra medium so i don't think that's law. 
http://wotreplays.eu.../4023450#teams 

 

I had standard games like this too recently. We had LT and they had Obj 907. This + other 'mirror' matchmaking flaws and it was a gg.

 

Anyway, 30% discount went into 50B - if I find it doesn't work for me I will not feel that bad selling it and moving crew to the new heavy line.

 

RU will be sold and I will move the crew to JPZ2 (I have a radio operator from another tank that sits useless now in barracks and can join the crew). I also bought T10 with 15% discount. The reason I didn't apply 30% to IS7 is that I don't know if I will be willing to actually buy it. T10 may well be a keeper.


Edited by The_Georgian_One, 23 December 2017 - 11:46 AM.


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Buddy, do yourself a favor and DON'T buy the RHM.

I've played and aced all tier 5 light tanks and I can tell you that the RHM is BY FAR the worst light tank of all the 5 and feels totally useless in most battles. The reason is that it hsa the same reload time like the Sheridan but having only 320 alpha. It has no armor so every HE shell pens you. You have some gun depression and mobility but that's it. No HP to trade and no alpha nor penetration to do anything against other tier 10 scouts not even mentioning other tier 10 or tier 9 meds.

 

Another big issue is that the P/W ratio is so good while the tank is so light that even on the smallest bumps this tank flips unrecoverably. I don't wanna show you the screenshots or replays of the games where I just slightly touched some slope or stone and the tank flipped on the side or back.

 

You're totally inflexible on closed or semi-closed maps and feel really UP against most of the enemies you encounter. Don't get me wrong: this tank can be fun to play if you get an open map and a good team but most of the times you spot your teammates make sure to stay out of the render range or just don't bother shooting at what you spot. The tank itself is ok but in the current meta its totally underperforming and you feel like you can't influence the battle to your favor like in other comperable tier 10 vehicles. After like 10 games the initial enthusiasm will fade and you'll start getting more and more frustrated!

 

Of all the tanks you've mentioned I'd either go for the E-50M or IS-7. The IS-7s mobility and gun handling are quite nice after the recent buff and it can be fun to play. The E-50M is also a fun tank with your speed, armor and ok gun.

 

Kranvagn is just sluggish and only works in very specific circumstances when you can hulldown with the turret other than that its too inflexible.

50B is quite cool and ok but needs lots of adjustments to gameplay and skill to really master and have fun with. BC25t you've already had so I'd go for something new.

Leopard 1 is the far superior RHM but still not aaas competitive though I liked playing mine from time to time. On the right maps, where you can use your speed and high accuracy it's a nice tank to play. On most other maps russian meds and other tanks crapall over your face.

 

Have fun and good luck with your choice.



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Rhm. Shitwagon is AFAIK absolute trash, the damage dealing potential is absolutely anemic for a tier 10. It can be quite fun I imagine because how fast it is but your much better off to play with the T-100 LT.

 

I would buy the Batchat or IS-7. Batchat is still good as usual (hard to play tho but really rewarding when done so), and the IS-7 is a nice package of great armor, mobility and HP and pretty good now. Kranvagn is sad and bad and should feel bad, and while 50 B is kinda good it has seen better days, as the current tier 10 meta is definitely not very friendly for it.






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