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OIias_of_Sunhillow #1 Posted 22 December 2017 - 08:29 PM

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I'm madly grinding for the T57; I played with it on the test server, and was getting some really good damage, and exp it it.

I found it a tank that would suit my play-style. And it's bloomin' good fun to boot..!

 

The only thing is, why do I not see many of them in battle ?

Am I missing something, or don't many feel it as good a tank as I do ?



Dammonar #2 Posted 22 December 2017 - 08:37 PM

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View PostOIias_of_Sunhillow, on 22 December 2017 - 08:29 PM, said:

I'm madly grinding for the T57; I played with it on the test server, and was getting some really good damage, and exp it it.

I found it a tank that would suit my play-style. And it's bloomin' good fun to boot..!

 

The only thing is, why do I not see many of them in battle ?

Am I missing something, or don't many feel it as good a tank as I do ?

 

It used to be meta then its gun was nerfed to crap, now its a one trick pony. If you like autoloaders you should consider 50b and forget about kran and t57. Currently the  only competitive heavies are : wz 111 5a, 113 to lesser extent, is7, type5 , super conq and maus, 50b fills a niche and is sometimes picked.  e5, t57, kran, is4 , pz7,e100 are obsolete.

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View PostOIias_of_Sunhillow, on 22 December 2017 - 09:29 PM, said:

The only thing is, why do I not see many of them in battle ?

Am I missing something, or don't many feel it as good a tank as I do ?

 

TVP T 50/51



TheWarrener #4 Posted 22 December 2017 - 09:20 PM

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View Postqpranger, on 22 December 2017 - 08:37 PM, said:

 

TVP T 50/51

It's so cute to see People who never played t50/51 thinking it's the most OP thing on the planet, masturbating to tanks.gg. 

T57 is a great tank. DPM melts everything and after receiving HD update turret got quite bouncy. Go for it by any means. 50b is probably a better tank overall, but t57 is just a joy to play. And why don't you see them often? Well, it is not a maus/type 5.



Schemezoid #5 Posted 22 December 2017 - 09:23 PM

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I have one, dont like it. That gun handling... meh

Enforcer1975 #6 Posted 22 December 2017 - 09:34 PM

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View PostTheWarrener, on 22 December 2017 - 09:20 PM, said:

It's so cute to see People who never played t50/51 thinking it's the most OP thing on the planet, masturbating to tanks.gg. 

I played it on SB and it's broken as hell. One of the easiest ways to do 1200 damage in 6 seconds even if it's the only damage a bad player does. The BC is not so broken in comparison. 



brumbarr #7 Posted 22 December 2017 - 09:37 PM

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View PostEnforcer1975, on 22 December 2017 - 09:34 PM, said:

I played it on SB and it's broken as hell. One of the easiest ways to do 1200 damage in 6 seconds even if it's the only damage a bad player does. The BC is not so broken in comparison. 

 

The challenge is doing more than 1200 dmg a game, which isnt easy in that tank. 

The tank looks good on paper but is so out of meta its not even funny.

 

 


Edited by brumbarr, 22 December 2017 - 09:37 PM.


soul3ater #8 Posted 22 December 2017 - 09:40 PM

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it was really good pre nerf.

 

I don't play it as much these days, the gun dispersion killed it for me.



RamRaid90 #9 Posted 22 December 2017 - 09:41 PM

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It's sure fun to play, but that is about it. Have to agree with Brumbarr in that it's just fallen out of favour. Stupid super heavy meta has rendered this tank practically useless since a type 5 WILL pen you with his premium HE spam and leave you more useless than you were before you pressed battle.

 

On the flip side, in grand battles it is an excellent tank with so many mediums around.



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View Postbrumbarr, on 22 December 2017 - 09:37 PM, said:

 

The challenge is doing more than 1200 dmg a game, which isnt easy in that tank. 

The tank looks good on paper but is so out of meta its not even funny.

 

 

A bot yoloing you for 1200 damage is enough to ruin your game as much as a bot who found his way into a good spot by accident and not get spotted when firing. There are a lot of tanks that increase the survivability and damage output of a bad player. 

 



brumbarr #11 Posted 22 December 2017 - 10:28 PM

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View PostEnforcer1975, on 22 December 2017 - 10:20 PM, said:

A bot yoloing you for 1200 damage is enough to ruin your game as much as a bot who found his way into a good spot by accident and not get spotted when firing. There are a lot of tanks that increase the survivability and damage output of a bad player. 

 

 

yeah, there are some of thsoe tanks, they are called type5 heavy.

XxKuzkina_MatxX #12 Posted 22 December 2017 - 10:29 PM

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View PostEnforcer1975, on 22 December 2017 - 11:20 PM, said:

A bot yoloing you for 1200 damage is enough to ruin your game as much as a bot who found his way into a good spot by accident and not get spotted when firing. There are a lot of tanks that increase the survivability and damage output of a bad player. 

 

 

And the TVP is not one of them trust me :)

 

I can elaborate but...

 

a) I don't really care too much about that discussion.

b) It's not polite to make fun of old tanks :)



250swb #13 Posted 22 December 2017 - 10:43 PM

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View PostOIias_of_Sunhillow, on 22 December 2017 - 07:29 PM, said:

I played with it on the test server, 

 

That's you problem, the test server is only a vague representation of the real game given it has lots of newbies who have never played at tier X running around spamming gold. The test server is only good for estimating accuracy, maneuverability etc., the actual gameplay is fiction.



Brodie_ #14 Posted 22 December 2017 - 10:52 PM

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The T57 for me was, & still is by far the most horribly dissapointing tier X that I have ever got!

I have quite a few!

It sits in my garage crewless now.

Some people still say they like it.

But I found that even fully aiming the shots at short range it is so terribly inaccurate, that you are lucky if 2 of your 4 pen!

(& I am talking about fully aimed shots when you are within 50 meters of the target!)

 

It used to be fantastic by all accounts until it got nerfed to hell for being OP.

I watch QB's streams quite a lot.

He jumps into his with such enthusiam (I think he remembers all those good times before the nerf, in it)

I have not seen him have game in it for ages where he is not slightly dumbfounded by the amount of shots that miss!

He is obviously a great player & still comes out with a decent ammount of damage.

 

I actually tried it again on the last test server, just to have another try in it.

3 games later, I was very happy, that I put that really good crew into the American medium line, & left that horrible turd crewless!

(That crew used to be my best!)

 

I wish you bettter luck than I had with it.

It was my 3rd tier X tank!

It is my most reviled tier X tank!

 

P.S. The accuracy rating of shots that hit, does not indicate how many of those shots, actually hit the weak spot, that you aimed at & penned...



How_hard_can_it_be #15 Posted 22 December 2017 - 11:05 PM

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Why is it always about playing the "good" tanks? Try everything out, play what you want, you're not compelled to play the "meta" tanks. Even if it's only the looks that make you like a certain tank, go play it. Enjoy the tanks you like even if it means playing worse tanks.

Isharial #16 Posted 23 December 2017 - 12:21 AM

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View PostHow_hard_can_it_be, on 22 December 2017 - 11:05 PM, said:

Why is it always about playing the "good" tanks? Try everything out, play what you want, you're not compelled to play the "meta" tanks. Even if it's only the looks that make you like a certain tank, go play it. Enjoy the tanks you like even if it means playing worse tanks.

 

this ^

 

most cannot stand the M4 45, its a tank with nothing going for it, and some people (even dingers) free xp the thing just so they don't have to play it, however I love the thing to bits.


 

everyone likes and dislikes tanks, and some tanks that are said to be OP and easy to play, I don't find so easy, or even that good, not because they lie, but because it doesn't work the way you play it


 

View PostRamRaid90, on 22 December 2017 - 09:41 PM, said:

It's sure fun to play, but that is about it. Have to agree with Brumbarr in that it's just fallen out of favour. Stupid super heavy meta has rendered this tank practically useless since a type 5 WILL pen you with his premium HE spam and leave you more useless than you were before you pressed battle.

 

On the flip side, in grand battles it is an excellent tank with so many mediums around.

 

maybe its problem isn't it as such, but more that its playstyle has changed

maybe all it is is a medium with a higher HP pool? as most will already know, class doesn't mean everything


Edited by Isharial, 23 December 2017 - 12:22 AM.


KreizzelI__master #17 Posted 23 December 2017 - 02:51 AM

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Tier 10 only games follow the heavies/super heavies,play 2nd line behind,peek,unload clip.For med/long range ....always FULLY zoom in every shot.I use 24/12 ap/heat.

Shines in the 3/5/7 MM meta,just chews up tier 8's.Tank is generally under rated now but its still a great tank imo.Just dont try winning a game in it:teethhappy:

 



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I regret using my 30% Christmas discount on this thing, as well as the fact that it has a girl crew.

 

T54E1: 62.03% solo win rate, 2157 DPG, 2444 WN8

T57: 40% win rate, 2101 DPG, 1457 WN8

 

The gun is utter dogsh*t. Aim, aim some more, wait 17-years, wait another 30-seconds...and click. That one bounced, that one missed or that one went in to the f***ing NA server. A friendly I was cooperating with died because the piece of sh*t couldn't hit a stationary Grille. Fired an entire clip and only 1/4 hit and the Grille only had 600-odd HP left.


Edited by thestaggy, 23 December 2017 - 06:58 AM.


ZlatanArKung #19 Posted 23 December 2017 - 08:16 AM

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I think T10 is really unfun to play, just get the T9 and stay there.
It is not that good (bad armour, bad mobility and an inaccurate gun with bad gun handling, but the clip potential and clip reload are nice), but can produce fun moments.
Just carry quite a few prem shells since the regular ap with 203 something pen isn't enough nowdays.

Edited by ZlatanArKung, 23 December 2017 - 08:18 AM.


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View PostOIias_of_Sunhillow, on 22 December 2017 - 08:29 PM, said:

The only thing is, why do I not see many of them in battle ?

Am I missing something, or don't many feel it as good a tank as I do ?

 

They were popular at some point. But then WG decided to set that and the 50b apart. Making the 50b's gun work on med to long range, and the 57 HT on close range only. Then they kinda died out. Tho I mostly just play mine for HT damage missions, it's still a capable and fun tank. Just not for everyone now considering the diversity of tier X HT's vs when it came.

Edited by Balc0ra, 23 December 2017 - 08:39 AM.





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