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Poll: Keep Obj.263 at tier 10! (97 members have cast votes)

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Do you think that Obj.263 should be kept at tier 10?

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fighting_falcon93 #1 Posted 23 December 2017 - 11:57 PM

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I don't know how to start this post. Right now I'm so infuriated with WGs stupidly incompetence I actually have to put in an effort to choose words that will not get myself banned.

 

 

So in the 2018 Preview announcement, WG wrote the following:

 

Update 9.22: Soviet Tech Tree Revision

The Object 268 Variant 4 will replace the Object 263 at Tier X, while the latter will move to Tier IX.

 

 

WG can you stop this stupid madness? Players invest months of grinding to unlock new tier 10s, and then you suddenly jump in like ------- ----- and just swap out the tank that they worked for very, very long.

 

The Obj.263 is ALREADY consistent, so what the ---- is it that you want to change? The Obj.263 is a unique TD, we don't want another derpy boomstick on tier 10.

 

Take a look at this topic over at RU forum. 83 freakin' pages of discussion, where players say that they don't want this change, yet there's a bunch of Edited sitting there and trying to change their opinion. Edited ??? And you say that you listen to you players feedback???

 

As summarized by a player in his post:

 

Players: "We don't want the Obj.263 to be moved to tier 9!"

Developers: "We listen to our players feedback, so therefore we've decided to move Obj.263 to tier 9..."

 

 

I've decided to create this topic with a poll in order to see how many EU forumites that dislike this change. I'm not expecting WG developers to take their woodheads out of the sand, but it's still better than sitting silent.

 

My main arguments to keeping Obj.263 on tier 10 is:

 

- Obj.263 offers unique TD gameplay on tier 10, this is good.

- Obj.263 is consistent with the other TDs in the branch.

- Unlocking tier 10s takes a lot of time, stop screwing players over.

 

What do you think? Please make your voice heard in the poll!

 

#KeepObj263AtTier10

 

This post has been edited by the moderation team due to insult 


Edited by VMX, 25 December 2017 - 05:19 PM.


lord_chipmonk #2 Posted 24 December 2017 - 12:13 AM

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Pretty sure this has already been scrapped. 

brumbarr #3 Posted 24 December 2017 - 12:17 AM

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View Postlord_chipmonk, on 24 December 2017 - 12:13 AM, said:

Pretty sure this has already been scrapped. 

They said so, but now at wgfest the said the are continuing with the change. 

Just them lying to our faces.

 

Litteraly noone asked for this change.



SuedKAT #4 Posted 24 December 2017 - 12:17 AM

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View PostSuedKAT, on 24 December 2017 - 12:09 AM, said:

It was not long ago they seemed to scrap the idea for this so I'm not sure if they actually will do this or not. Sure the announcement they did at WG Fest might be seen as an official statement, but it might for all we know have been written and planned way in advanced, WG ain't exactly masters when it comes to public relations after all. But then again I wouldn't be surprised if they killed of another somewhat unique tank and made it into a copy paste model of something else, it seems to be the new balance idea after all...

 

I for sure hope they won't go through with this.

 

​The preview announcement however seems more like a sure thing, sadly, still I hope this was just pre-written in advance and the cancellation just haven't reached the PR people yet, wouldn't be a first, but that's grasping for straws I guess. I'm starting to get more and more convinced they don't play their own game anymore, the new balance departement for sure don't.

Edited by SuedKAT, 24 December 2017 - 12:41 AM.


fighting_falcon93 #5 Posted 24 December 2017 - 12:18 AM

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View Postlord_chipmonk, on 24 December 2017 - 12:13 AM, said:

Pretty sure this has already been scrapped. 

 

Ehrm the 2018 Preview announcement was posted today... They said on the 12th december that they'd cancel it, which was appearently another lie judging from todays announcement.

lord_chipmonk #6 Posted 24 December 2017 - 12:31 AM

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View Postbrumbarr, on 24 December 2017 - 12:17 AM, said:

They said so, but now at wgfest the said the are continuing with the change. 

Just them lying to our faces.

 

Litteraly noone asked for this change.

View Postfighting_falcon93, on 24 December 2017 - 12:18 AM, said:

Ehrm the 2018 Preview announcement was posted today... They said on the 12th december that they'd cancel it, which was appearently another lie judging from todays announcement.

 

I'd missed that. Cheers for the info. :angry:

 

Spoiler

 


Edited by lord_chipmonk, 24 December 2017 - 12:31 AM.


ZlatanArKung #7 Posted 24 December 2017 - 12:46 AM

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It is bad when you can't trust that WG will do what they say.

Saying 263 won't get replaced, now say it will get replaced.
Saying Mutant will never be sold again. .... until sold again.

WG is lieing to its costumers, so henceforth there is no reason to trust anything WG say.

Uebergewicht #8 Posted 24 December 2017 - 01:07 AM

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Just when I relaxed a bit, this comes back up... screw the 268/4, leave the 263 alone!

ares354 #9 Posted 24 December 2017 - 03:37 AM

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Rip 263, some of us loved play style you give us. 

Now you will be assault TD, with 0,45 acc on tier 9, and tier 10 will be next generic 750 no weakspot tank. THX WG, community love you. 

Edited by ares354, 24 December 2017 - 03:37 AM.


AuroraBoreaIis #10 Posted 24 December 2017 - 04:57 AM

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I'm all for keeping the 263 at tier 10. It's a great tank and unique.

 

However, seeing as I recently struggled through that line it clearly needs work. For that reason I understand WG messing with it. 

 

The tier 8 isn't even so bad, some gun handling buffs and better gun arcs on the top gun go a long way. But the tier 9 is absolutely awful and will be difficult to fix. I applaud WG for trying to find a solution for this (and probably make the SU-122-54 a premium tank), but I hope they will find something else to replace it with. 

 

Please keep the 263 at tier 10!



Cobra6 #11 Posted 24 December 2017 - 11:54 AM

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It was cancelled so this article is already outdated.

 

And you are right that no-one asked for this change or wants it. The 263 is a unique T10 TD and a breath of fresh air in a stale class dominated by 750 alpha boring TD's and uber alpha guns.

 

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fighting_falcon93 #12 Posted 24 December 2017 - 12:45 PM

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View PostCobra6, on 24 December 2017 - 11:54 AM, said:

It was cancelled so this article is already outdated.

 

They cancelled it on the 12th december. Yesterday in the 2018 preview announcement they changed their minds again and now want to throw it out of tier 10 again, unless as someone pointed out, their PR department is lagging behind on info :unsure:

 

A small update:

 

WoT: USSR Rebalance

Here’s the final setup: SU-100M1 >>> SU-101 >>> Object 263 >>> Object 268 Variant 4

 

[...]

 

We believe that the final setup will provide a fresh take on TD gameplay, and invite you to take the revised line for a stroll during the upcoming Common Test. Give them a shot, try to keep a somewhat open mind, and let us know what you think!

 

This is the exact same crap that they've been doing on the RU forum. Even though players don't want this, they still want to push it through. They can simply buff the Obj.263 if they think that it's underperforming.

 

I have a suggestion. They ask us to keep an open mind... Why should we have an open mind when they don't? So please, everyone that wants Obj.263 kept on tier 10, please voice your critizism as soon as they put this stupid change on the test server :izmena:

 

#KeepObj263AtTier10


 

Bennie182 #13 Posted 25 December 2017 - 01:56 PM

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I miss 1 option: remove it

fighting_falcon93 #14 Posted 25 December 2017 - 02:45 PM

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View PostBennie182, on 25 December 2017 - 01:56 PM, said:

I miss 1 option: remove it

 

That option is not really relevant to the question, since the question is regarding keeping it as it's or swapping it for another tier 10. With that said, I'm curious to why you'd want to remove a branch that actually is unique and brings variety to the game?

zen_monk_ #15 Posted 25 December 2017 - 02:54 PM

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Have they said will they keep it as it is, only on Tier 9 (meaning S-70A)? In that case I welcome the change cause I'm one third into ISU 122-54 grind and I will be given Object 263. I have no objections to that. What's wrong with Tier 9?



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View Postzen_monk_, on 25 December 2017 - 02:54 PM, said:

Have they said will they keep it as it is, only on Tier 9 (meaning S-70A)? In that case I welcome the change cause I'm one third into ISU 122-54 grind and I will be given Object 263. I have no objections to that. What's wrong with Tier 9?

There's absolutely no chance the Obj 263 will stay as it is and just be moved down to tier 9. It'll be massively nerfed and just be the 263 in name only. 



Penzijon3r_2017 #17 Posted 25 December 2017 - 03:39 PM

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View Postfighting_falcon93, on 23 December 2017 - 11:57 PM, said:

I don't know how to start this post. Right now I'm so infuriated with WGs stupidly incompetence I actually have to put in an effort to choose words that will not get myself banned.

 

 

How much games did you play in Obj 263? None? LOL

 

I personaly expect that Obj268v4 will be better than Obj263. The time will tell.



Bennie182 #18 Posted 25 December 2017 - 03:40 PM

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View Postfighting_falcon93, on 25 December 2017 - 02:45 PM, said:

That option is not really relevant to the question, since the question is regarding keeping it as it's or swapping it for another tier 10. With that said, I'm curious to why you'd want to remove a branch that actually is unique and brings variety to the game?

the answer is relevant, though it wasn't available

I am not talking about the branch, if I would I would speak about all td's, as I think it's a disgusting class: constant farming behind allies, at their cost. most of the players too dumb to relocate, because "I am td" (must camp for sure), instead of moving up and supporting the team. I've lost tons of battles because of this. the class itself is exactly what people whine about when speaking of arty: creating static gameplay, especially when both teams get 1 or 2 as toptier in a 3 5 7 setup.

 

besides all this, 263 and variety? we have enough unbalanced tanks in the game, this one being way longer in the game then the superheavies like Type etc.it is called "yolowagon" for a reason. yes it has lower alpha then most tier 10 td's, so what? it has monstrous dpm and broken armor. "then flank it", sure I will when I can, but there are enough maps/situations when you just can't. it's like the Badger, but a little less OP.



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View PostBennie182, on 25 December 2017 - 03:40 PM, said:

the answer is relevant, though it wasn't available

I am not talking about the branch, if I would I would speak about all td's, as I think it's a disgusting class: constant farming behind allies, at their cost. most of the players too dumb to relocate, because "I am td" (must camp for sure), instead of moving up and supporting the team. I've lost tons of battles because of this. the class itself is exactly what people whine about when speaking of arty: creating static gameplay, especially when both teams get 1 or 2 as toptier in a 3 5 7 setup.

 

besides all this, 263 and variety? we have enough unbalanced tanks in the game, this one being way longer in the game then the superheavies like Type etc.it is called "yolowagon" for a reason. yes it has lower alpha then most tier 10 td's, so what? it has monstrous dpm and broken armor. "then flank it", sure I will when I can, but there are enough maps/situations when you just can't. it's like the Badger, but a little less OP.

Its not even close to the badger. 

It has a big lower plate that is 150mm effective. It has 4° of gun dep, so cant use ridges anywhere. 

Its a balanced machine that if played well is very good. 

 

This line is about some armour with good speed and low alpha dmg high dpm. But handicapped by akward features as no gun dep and traverse. 

They are completely changing what the line is, they are making the low dpm with derpy guns and great frontal armour. It is just stupid.



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Well if Obj 263 so good, why nobody plays it? I see them very rarely. And players always YOLO and die in first 2 minutes. 




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