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fanta_freake #1 Posted 24 December 2017 - 01:21 PM

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Merry Christmas everyone. 

 

Dont really know where to begin. 

The new premium Mauerbrecher. Just a copy of VK 100.01 P? Nope, not even close. 

 

Armor: crap. Penable by many tier 8 on upperplate. Also, dont even try to sidescrape or use or sidearmor in anyway. Its like sidescraping with a Scorpion. :facepalm:

Gun handling: crap. Dispersion is not that bad, because its so slow, but the accuracy and aimtime is not something to be proud of.

Mobility: Its alot like the Maus. Slow but "Okey". Turret travers tho, is just garbage. 

Weakspots: Machinegun port on the upperplate - Cupola on top of turret - Weak lowerplate and sidearmor. Its not very great.

Survivability: When you consider this tanks weight at 170 t, it should have a decent hp pool. But oh hell you were wrong again. 1700 hp is just not enough. Most of the time, when you get hit 1 time, you are down to around 1500. FCM with 1500 will just start to laugh. 

Gun: If you have watched QB's video about the tank, he mentioned that maybe they should go with the big 490 alpha 128mm gun on this tank instead. I really feel that whenever you get into tier 10, and some tier 9 games with superheavies, you cant do crap. 260 with apcr is just not enough. I really feel they could buff the pen, without it becomming op. 

 

When i write all these things, i dont want it to become the next "Defender". But rather adjust it, for it to become competitive. 

I have now played it 10 games. I dont judge it by 10 games, but taken into account i have only been toptier 1 time, i dont think its competitive at all. It needs a buff immediately.

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Please let me know if you bought it, and what you think about it :)

 

Thanks for reading. 

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Enforcer1975 #2 Posted 24 December 2017 - 01:27 PM

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I think it has enough armor. And as you said you haven't been top tier a lot so there's that. Whoever bought this hoping to stomp lower and equal tiers without them having a chance deserves some stomping themselves.

SABAOTH #3 Posted 24 December 2017 - 01:28 PM

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I bought it, was waiting for it.

 

What do you know, is German you cannot break the tradition: Great on paper, flawed in practice. :izmena:

 

Sidescraping works well and the gun is not that bad up to tier 9, also nice gold bouncing from tier 8 tds.

 

Did not play it vs tier X but the feeling is that of a huge xp pinata, could use a little more alpha with same dpm, some better turret traverse and and extra 50 mm on the weakspots just to avoid autopen even when angled.

 

That should do, but I knew what I was buying so cannot complain. :coin:



Dava_117 #4 Posted 24 December 2017 - 01:29 PM

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View Postfanta_freake, on 24 December 2017 - 01:21 PM, said:

Merry Christmas everyone. 

 

Dont really know where to begin. 

The new premium Mauerbrecher. Just a copy of VK 100.01 P? Nope, not even close. 

 

Armor: crap. Penable by many tier 8 on upperplate. Also, dont even try to sidescrape or use or sidearmor in anyway. Its like sidescraping with a Scorpion. :facepalm:

Gun handling: crap. Dispersion is not that bad, because its so slow, but the accuracy and aimtime is not something to be proud of.

Mobility: Its alot like the Maus. Slow but "Okey". Turret travers tho, is just garbage. 

Weakspots: Machinegun port on the upperplate - Cupola on top of turret - Weak lowerplate and sidearmor. Its not very great.

Survivability: When you consider this tanks weight at 170 t, it should have a decent hp pool. But oh hell you were wrong again. 1700 hp is just not enough. Most of the time, when you get hit 1 time, you are down to around 1500. FCM with 1500 will just start to laugh. 

Gun: If you have watched QB's video about the tank, he mentioned that maybe they should go with the big 490 alpha 128mm gun on this tank instead. I really feel that whenever you get into tier 10, and some tier 9 games with superheavies, you cant do crap. 260 with apcr is just not enough. I really feel they could buff the pen, without it becomming op. 

 

When i write all these things, i dont want it to become the next "Defender". But rather adjust it, for it to become competitive. 

I have now played it 10 games. I dont judge it by 10 games, but taken into account i have only been toptier 1 time, i dont think its competitive at all. It needs a buff immediately.

Spoiler

 

Please let me know if you bought it, and what you think about it :)

 

Thanks for reading. 

Merry XMas and Happy New Year!

 

 

1) HP are enought. Just KV-4 and VK100.01P got as much.

2) If quickbaby think a 490 alpha on a tier 8 HT is good, his mental sanity is quite questionable

3) pen is perfectly in par with the tier it is. Giving it more pen would be a joke.



fanta_freake #5 Posted 24 December 2017 - 01:32 PM

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View PostEnforcer1975, on 24 December 2017 - 12:27 PM, said:

I think it has enough armor. And as you said you haven't been top tier a lot so there's that. Whoever bought this hoping to stomp lower and equal tiers without them having a chance deserves some stomping themselves.

 

I know its fine against lowertiers. But when you meet tier 10 all the time, its now very good. 

 

View PostDava_117, on 24 December 2017 - 12:29 PM, said:

 

1) HP are enought. Just KV-4 and VK100.01P got as much.

2) If quickbaby think a 490 alpha on a tier 8 HT is good, his mental sanity is quite questionable

3) pen is perfectly in par with the tier it is. Giving it more pen would be a joke.

Hp enough? You need to play it, too feel it. Trust me. Its not great for 170 t

 



Dava_117 #6 Posted 24 December 2017 - 01:34 PM

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View Postfanta_freake, on 24 December 2017 - 01:32 PM, said:

 

I know its fine against lowertiers. But when you meet tier 10 all the time, its now very good. 

 

Hp enough? You need to play it, too feel it. Trust me. Its not great for 170 t

 

 

So, just because it weight 170t, you want a tier 9 HP pool on a tier 8 tank, that still has workable armour (not like TOG II* that is the only exception)

Edited by Dava_117, 24 December 2017 - 01:34 PM.


brumbarr #7 Posted 24 December 2017 - 01:35 PM

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View Postfanta_freake, on 24 December 2017 - 01:32 PM, said:

 

I know its fine against lowertiers. But when you meet tier 10 all the time, its now very good. 

 

 

So which  T8 tanks is good when it meets tier10 all the time? 


Edited by brumbarr, 24 December 2017 - 01:35 PM.


Search_Warrant #8 Posted 24 December 2017 - 01:38 PM

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View Postfanta_freake, on 24 December 2017 - 12:21 PM, said:

 

Thanks for reading. 

Merry XMas and Happy New Year!

 

 

What exactly did you use equipment wise? spall liner worth it?
(yeh i was gifted this thing...)



leggasiini #9 Posted 24 December 2017 - 01:39 PM

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It should still feel godlike after AMX 65t :^)

 

That being said, I would personally just buff the armor behind tracks to 100 so it doesnt get BS penned when it angles 30 degrees by tier 6s. Or leave it's armor like it is now, but give it amazing HP pool. It still has things like 400m view range, 440 alpha and armor is still decent so it is far from useless.

 

It needs only slight adjustments, last thing we need is Defender V2.0

 

View PostSearch_Warrant, on 24 December 2017 - 02:38 PM, said:

 

What exactly did you use equipment wise? spall liner worth it?
(yeh i was gifted this thing...)

 

 

Oh lord...

 

I might get one for myself later on (new-toy-need-syndrome and for possible masochist 3 marks, also I enjoy superheavies). I would go with Rammer / stabs / optics to get utterly BS view range which can be a helpful tool in T10 games, where this thing kinda suffers. More assist = more credits as well. Vents is a good option too tho if you use food and have a very good crew because it can still reach max view range kek.

 

Spall is not worth it IMO, the HE damage difference is negligible if the HE shell hits your turret, roof or splashes under the tank. Might as well boost the view range or gun stats instead, way more helpful.


Edited by leggasiini, 24 December 2017 - 01:46 PM.


Aikl #10 Posted 24 December 2017 - 01:39 PM

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Nice tank for those who needs that lucky 3-5-7 roflstomp game to feel good for themselves, and are perfectly happy being cannon fodder ~90% of the time.

 

Everything about the tank screams "minimal effort intended". Fun stuff.

 

View PostSearch_Warrant, on 24 December 2017 - 12:38 PM, said:

What exactly did you use equipment wise? spall liner worth it?

(yeh i was gifted this thing...)

 

 

Who (and God-freaking-why) are gifting you all these tanks? :D


Edited by Aikl, 24 December 2017 - 01:40 PM.


Search_Warrant #11 Posted 24 December 2017 - 02:22 PM

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Ahahaha this tank is utter trash. 3 games bottom tier and i cant hit/pen anything. got T30 threw my mantle for 850 high roll and back to garage. this tank is next level trash. horrible in every aspect, turret turns like its broken. hull is slow as hell, accelerations good but jesus christ.

 

At least it looks cool right? i mean them S.Conq and IS-7 spamming pure gold at me while i bounce and miss there "weak spots" really is fun and balanced. i cant even run away in this lump of steel. feel like im free food for the enemy. GG WG.

 

Edit: just got a Lowe goldmy outer mantle area that i thought was overlapped armor. seems not. 230 for a mantle is a bit pathetic WG. you know with a giant cupola and MG port weak spot? LFP? why the hell the mantle so weak? it should be 300 minimum. the cheeks are already huge and cheese.


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Search_Warrant #12 Posted 24 December 2017 - 02:23 PM

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View Postbrumbarr, on 24 December 2017 - 12:35 PM, said:

So which  T8 tanks is good when it meets tier10 all the time? 

 

Defender? VKP? :trollface:

8126Jakobsson #13 Posted 24 December 2017 - 02:39 PM

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View PostAikl, on 24 December 2017 - 01:39 PM, said:

Who (and God-freaking-why) are gifting you all these tanks? :D

 

Could be the tank version of "asking for a friend". Or he really has a sugah daddy and I want in. 



Search_Warrant #14 Posted 24 December 2017 - 02:53 PM

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View Post8126Jakobsson, on 24 December 2017 - 01:39 PM, said:

 

Could be the tank version of "asking for a friend". Or he really has a sugah daddy and I want in. 

 

3 Sugar Daddys to be precise. :trollface:

Aikl #15 Posted 24 December 2017 - 02:57 PM

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View Post8126Jakobsson, on 24 December 2017 - 01:39 PM, said:

 

Could be the tank version of "asking for a friend". Or he really has a sugah daddy and I want in. 

 

Maybe, I guess someone is gifting him tanks for a purpose. Like creating threads for them. Wouldn't do that if he bought them himself, would he?

 

The answer is always the most depraved one.



Etre_ #16 Posted 24 December 2017 - 03:08 PM

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SirFoch is playing it atm and is streaming on Twitch.



Search_Warrant #17 Posted 24 December 2017 - 04:37 PM

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View PostEtre_, on 24 December 2017 - 02:08 PM, said:

SirFoch is playing it atm and is streaming on Twitch.

 

Played it for like 1 match and then spammed T92... sadly dident see him play it,

spidre #18 Posted 24 December 2017 - 06:30 PM

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After all the discussion and comments on this tank, everyone wil know where to aim and pen it. It's too slow for clan battles and the appalling traverse speeds mean every tank will perform the circle of death on it. Get the Lowe instead, since the buff it's right up there with the best.

Search_Warrant #19 Posted 24 December 2017 - 06:34 PM

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Just realised something. 220 standard ammo cannot pen a VKP cupola.. yeh... you cant hurt your own "counterpart"  BUT HE CAN SURE AS HELL PEN YOU!!! stupid balance decision WG. u F'd up bigtime with this BS "Balance"

 

Edit: press china tanks are slamming me mantle with F*** 250 HEAT!!!? WTF!! this tank is grade A+ trash. a none preff superheavy getting nuked?! i go 20kmh for god sakes! GIVE ME MY ARMOR WG!

 

DO. NOT. BUY.


Edited by Search_Warrant, 24 December 2017 - 07:10 PM.


Bucifel #20 Posted 24 December 2017 - 07:21 PM

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i think that WG finally did a great job with their new prem. tank.

 

another one who want OP foolish prem tanks..?

finally WG did the correct thing and released a good premium exactly how all premiums was suposed to be and guess what...players still complain :facepalm:

 

buy it ! Thats what wg must do, not retard defenders ! Reward them for good things likt this, no for retard ideas what ruin balance


Edited by Bucifel, 24 December 2017 - 07:23 PM.






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