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TigerMoth #1 Posted 25 December 2017 - 09:31 PM

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So, WG realise that their rank system is flawed and that they will be adjusting an individuals Personal Rating based on a particular tanks performance. Does this mean that WG will finally implement a match making that will take this in to account?

Enforcer1975 #2 Posted 25 December 2017 - 09:40 PM

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Sauce?

Balc0ra #3 Posted 25 December 2017 - 09:43 PM

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And what does Personal rating have to do with MM? It's been there for ages, not used it for that yet.  Even with those changes, it will be a system no one will reliably use. It will only sort out the padders and those that only play OP tanks etc.

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Aikl #4 Posted 25 December 2017 - 09:44 PM

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Short reply: No.

 

Long reply: Noo.

 

For more elaborate replies, use the search function. There are some nice wall of texts describing the simple, obvious issues with skill-based matchmaking and why it, even if it actually would work, won't solve everything.


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TigerMoth #5 Posted 25 December 2017 - 09:51 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 25 December 2017 - 08:43 PM, said:

And what does Personal rating have to do with MM? It's been there for ages, not used it for that yet.  Even with those changes, it will be a system no one will reliably use. It will only sort out the padders and those that only play OP tanks etc.

 

WG have realised that each tank has different characteristics and they are clearly going to adjust the Personal Rating based on individual tanks, so it would make sense that they should extend that to the MM?

Edited by TigerMoth, 25 December 2017 - 09:53 PM.


TigerMoth #6 Posted 25 December 2017 - 09:54 PM

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View PostEnforcer1975, on 25 December 2017 - 08:40 PM, said:

Sauce?

 

Would expect nothing less than a useless response from someone like yourself.

SuedKAT #7 Posted 25 December 2017 - 09:56 PM

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View PostTigerMoth, on 25 December 2017 - 09:51 PM, said:

 

WG have realised that each tanks characteristics are different and they are clearly going to adjust the Personal Rating based on individual tanks, so it would make sense that they should extend that to the MM?

 

How does that make sense? Personal Rating is just as WN8 an individual skill statistic and it's been around for ages, what does that have to do with match making in any way and why would it make any sense to extend that to match making now all of a sudden?

 

All they are doing are making it a bit more like WN8, you know different tanks have different expected values etc.


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View PostTigerMoth, on 25 December 2017 - 08:54 PM, said:

 

Would expect nothing less than a useless response from someone like yourself.

 

​He means "source"

MrGimpSuit #9 Posted 25 December 2017 - 10:01 PM

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View PostTigerMoth, on 25 December 2017 - 08:54 PM, said:

 

Would expect nothing less than a useless response from someone like yourself.

 

It's not a useless response to ask for the source of your information. So link?

TigerMoth #10 Posted 25 December 2017 - 10:01 PM

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View PostSuedKAT, on 25 December 2017 - 08:56 PM, said:

 

How does that make sense? Personal Rating is just as WN8 an individual skill statistic and it's been around for ages, what does that have to do with match making in any way and why would it make any sense to extend that to match making now all of a sudden?

 

All they are doing are making it a bit more like WN8, you know different tanks have different expected values etc.

 

I can't work out if you are being a troll or if you are genuinely stupid. Either way, same old trolls every post gets boring.

Spurtung #11 Posted 25 December 2017 - 10:02 PM

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View PostTigerMoth, on 25 December 2017 - 10:51 PM, said:

 

WG have realised that each tank has different characteristics and they are clearly going to adjust the Personal Rating based on individual tanks, so it would make sense that they should extend that to the MM?

 

Why would that make sense? They've had PR and never used if for anything, why would it suddenly make sense to use the new one?

Balc0ra #12 Posted 25 December 2017 - 10:04 PM

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View PostTigerMoth, on 25 December 2017 - 09:51 PM, said:

 

WG have realised that each tank has different characteristics and they are clearly going to adjust the Personal Rating based on individual tanks, so it would make sense that they should extend that to the MM?

 

Again... why now when they thought it was perfect for all those years before it? I highly doubt it. Even so WG have said they will keep random random. And they won't alienate bad players. Tho some staff has changed since then "tank fest". I don't see why they will do it now.  It's why the they added the ranked mode. I might affect that if anything.



SuedKAT #13 Posted 25 December 2017 - 10:09 PM

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View PostTigerMoth, on 25 December 2017 - 10:01 PM, said:

 

I can't work out if you are being a troll or if you are genuinely stupid. Either way, same old trolls every post gets boring.

 

I'm not even sure if you even know what the current Personal Rating is and what adjusting it for specific tank values would actually do and how you assume that is related to match making is beyond me.

Enforcer1975 #14 Posted 25 December 2017 - 10:28 PM

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View PostTigerMoth, on 25 December 2017 - 09:51 PM, said:

 

WG have realised that each tank has different characteristics and they are clearly going to adjust the Personal Rating based on individual tanks, so it would make sense that they should extend that to the MM?

 

It makes sense that every tank has to be rated differently since they are obviously different and have to be played differently. But i still miss the sauce.

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View PostSuedKAT, on 25 December 2017 - 11:09 PM, said:

View PostTigerMoth, on 25 December 2017 - 10:01 PM, said:

 

I can't work out if you are being a troll or if you are genuinely stupid. Either way, same old trolls every post gets boring.

 

I'm not even sure if you even know what the current Personal Rating is and what adjusting it for specific tank values would actually do and how you assume that is related to match making is beyond me.

Precisely. And quite the laugh seeing him thinking you're trolling him.



HundeWurst #16 Posted 25 December 2017 - 11:10 PM

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Why would they? The one thing has nothing to do with the other.

Their MM has flaws but they are NOT based on this but on other "gametechnical" issues (why is there +/-2 mm?).

 

So no it aint gonna happen and I am more than happy. YOu want to pla against equally skilled opponents? Play ranked when its enabled.



_Bundesheer_ #17 Posted 25 December 2017 - 11:18 PM

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View PostWunderWurst, on 25 December 2017 - 11:10 PM, said:

 

So no it aint gonna happen and I am more than happy. YOu want to pla against equally skilled opponents? Play ranked when its enabled.

 

Well, playing ranked doesn't mean that you are playing against equally skilled opponents...



Pansenmann #18 Posted 26 December 2017 - 02:18 AM

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why need a rank system when there is no ladder mode?

also, have do you have any trustworthy source you can post here?

 

 

PS: ranked battles and ranked team was to my knowledge only played by a minor fraction of the playerbase.


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_T_1_T_4_N_0_ #19 Posted 26 December 2017 - 04:13 AM

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View PostTigerMoth, on 25 December 2017 - 09:31 PM, said:

So, WG realise that their rank system is flawed and that they will be adjusting an individuals Personal Rating based on a particular tanks performance. Does this mean that WG will finally implement a match making that will take this in to account?

 

Maybe as WG is putting individual tank ratings into WoT and its currently being used without any obvious reason.
Individual tank PR is just a metric and yeah it can be stat padded / rigged but in general it could very well make and excellent addition to MM.

You could have the exact same MM with an adaptive individual tank bandpass PR filter that relaxes over queue time and is an option in battle types.
I really hope they give it a try and just make it another option to extend and make difference to the overall WoT enjoyment.
 

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View PostPansenmann, on 26 December 2017 - 01:18 AM, said:

PS: ranked battles and ranked team was to my knowledge only played by a minor fraction of the playerbase.

 

If I remember correctly it was for some reason locked to a certain high tier with the other 90% of tiers locked out. It might be nice though if it ran for long periods, be accessible for all tanks and ranked by tank.

 






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