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Bl4ckSn1P3r #1 Posted 26 December 2017 - 02:40 PM

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Hello, I play for some time World Of Tanks, World Of Warships, and I want to make a suggestion for WOT about APCR & HEAT ammo.
I play tier 8 kv-4 and I have like 500 games with kv-4, always I am at the bottom of the list, from 10 games i play like 6-7 games in tier X games, 2 games tier 9 and just 1 in tier 8. What I want to say is, every single shoot I take even from tier X enemy tanks are premium ammo APCR and HEAT, every single one.
So I think to be a fair play game, and make more enjoyable this game, because right now it is a full gold ammo spamm, WOT DEVS should sell premium ammo ONLY with gold no more buy premium ammo with credits. Or at least double the price in credits for premium ammo.
But if you sell PREMIUM AMMO only with gold, you make some $$$, real $$$ from selling PREMIUM AMMO. Who want to play with premium ammo can buy with real money, with gold, if they want to buy PREMIUM AMMO nobody stop them.
And you can sell only with gold premium ammo, yes I know there are some tanks who use by default premium ammo, solution, then reduce the price in gold for premium ammo, APCR & HEAT, but please, please, please NO more sell Premium Ammo in credits.
I was playing kv-4 with stock gun 175 mm pen in tier x games and I used HE ammo, deal like 2000 damage per game, block 5000.
You can play very well with AP and HE, and of course if you like to deal damage a lot without any problem go buy with real cash/money/gold some Premium Ammo.
If you make so, to sell APCR & HEAT the PREMIUM AMMO only with gold, everybody win, you WOT win money, and you deserve them, for your hard work, and players win a fair play game. It is a win win situation.
And if you WOT DEVS do not want to make Premium Ammo APCR & HEAT to sell only with gold and still sell PREMIUM AMMO, a PREMIUM ITEM from WOT game with credits, in game credits, then please make the others PREMIUM ITEMS from game affordable with IN GAME CREDITS. Like Premium Vehicles, Premium Time Account etc.
If I have money to buy a tier 8 premium vehicle I have money, real money to buy with real money gold and with gold I can buy PREMIUM AMMO.
Have a nice time in game and a nice day.
Thank you, and please consider my post.


Homer_J #2 Posted 26 December 2017 - 02:46 PM

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Yeah! Make wallet warriors great again!

RamRaid90 #3 Posted 26 December 2017 - 02:48 PM

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Yes lets make the game P2W by making premum ammo available only for gold again.

 

tl:dr for everyone else "I want to limit premium ammo to gold so only people with lots of money can afford to use it, this will give me an advantage over other players"

 

:facepalm:

 

I have a better idea, maybe you could re-roll fail again in 2018. That way your stats might be a little higher.


Edited by RamRaid90, 26 December 2017 - 02:49 PM.


Nishi_Kinuyo #4 Posted 26 December 2017 - 02:48 PM

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:facepalm:

So basically, you want to make the game even more pay-to-win?

That's the entire reason why they made premium ammunition available for silver in the first place.



DarkSephirot #5 Posted 26 December 2017 - 02:51 PM

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Best way is of removal of all premium ammo

DracheimFlug #6 Posted 26 December 2017 - 02:55 PM

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Better suggestion.... just remove all non-premium ammunition and balance for that..... :arta::hiding:

Obsessive_Compulsive #7 Posted 26 December 2017 - 03:21 PM

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View PostDarkSephirot, on 26 December 2017 - 02:51 PM, said:

Best way is of removal of all premium ammo

 

View PostDracheimFlug, on 26 December 2017 - 02:55 PM, said:

Better suggestion.... just remove all non-premium ammunition and balance for that..... :arta::hiding:

 

thats easy right.. and then your cromwell can literally just go and swim at the end of the match when he faces an IS3. buff cromwells pen enough to not need gold and he can easily pen tier 6 heavies from any angle from any range...

 

I wonder do you guys even try to consider that after all these years the solution is not simple and the one we have currently is actually viable and working? Sure it might need some tweaks but its a never ending balance game. It wont ever be perfect. Somewhere someone or something always loses out no matter what is done.



wremise #8 Posted 26 December 2017 - 04:02 PM

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I dont need gold to scrap your kv4. should we bann normal ammo too?

enu_ #9 Posted 26 December 2017 - 04:55 PM

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if you don't want to shot premium ammo don't, i's your choice. leave others to make their own choices. WG made it available to everyone, so it's our choices what yo use.

Edited by enu_, 26 December 2017 - 04:56 PM.


Hedgehog1963 #10 Posted 26 December 2017 - 05:12 PM

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I'm going to make a guess that OP doesn't know that many, many tanks fire APCR as their standard round at higher tiers.

T4T #11 Posted 26 December 2017 - 05:18 PM

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HundeWurst #12 Posted 26 December 2017 - 05:45 PM

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You are not the first of MANY oncluding me aving a problem with the premium ammo.

 

However your "idea" is not thougth through and stupid. It would be even more pay2win and would not solve ANYTHING.

Only a proper rework will do the job and that rework wont happen as it would cost WG money. SO deal with it.



Knight_Zao #13 Posted 26 December 2017 - 06:06 PM

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Do all those that moan about prem rounds come from the very start of this game? Because Jesus!!!! Give up moaning about prem rounds, its part of the game, deal with it!!! Now I'm not defending spamming prem rounds at light tanks, but there are times where prem rounds are needed. A platoon of type 5s driving down banana road on himmelsdorf, no chance to "flank" so you have to press 2 key and do what is needed.

 

I see no point in shooting a tank that you can not penetrate, and the majority of maps don't really allow flanking as a valid tactic unless in a platoon.

 

Also prem rounds aren't just for spamming at super heavies, some meds playing hulldown against each other need prem to damage each other.

 

Prem rounds as far as I'm concerned are balanced, they cost 4-5 times as much as normal, they allow you be penetrate weakspots of super heavies, loading gold and firing at a well angled maus is still going to bounce regardless apart from maybe a high roll for jagE100. So prem rounds aren't auto pen, just help deal with situations that are otherwise hopeless



karlchen123 #14 Posted 26 December 2017 - 06:53 PM

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Goldrounds are too cheap. They aren't for otherwise hopeless situations. Some players drive full gold and make profit. 

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View PostObsessive_Compulsive, on 26 December 2017 - 03:21 PM, said:

 

 

thats easy right.. and then your cromwell can literally just go and swim at the end of the match when he faces an IS3. buff cromwells pen enough to not need gold and he can easily pen tier 6 heavies from any angle from any range...

 

I wonder do you guys even try to consider that after all these years the solution is not simple and the one we have currently is actually viable and working? Sure it might need some tweaks but its a never ending balance game. It wont ever be perfect. Somewhere someone or something always loses out no matter what is done.

 

Spoiler

 



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I do not say WG should remove premium ammo, but premium ammo is to [edited]cheap, some players go full premium ammo and make profits, and make tons of damage using premium ammo, the solution is WG sell premium ammo with gold and they need to at least double the actual price for premium ammo in credits, it is premium ammo, so if you want premium ammo and wanna cheat the game, then pay in game credits for that.
Some of you say and give exemple a type 64 who cant pen a heavy, let me say something, even me with kv-4 and 220 mm pen cant pen all the time my enemy tanks. But I know to choose my fight, when to go and shoot and when to wait! And of course where to shoot, where is the weak spot, with standard ammo like AP and HE, and still make damage in game. Like 40 min ago i carry the game, a tier X game, I carry with my kv-4, dealt 2500 damage and 3500 damage upon my spoting, because my top tier is-4 was a bot. How I carry, simple i take shoots from enemy tanks, who bounce my, 1 bounce shoot is less HP for enemy, because they shoot me, but behind me a whole army, who will shoot them. I always keep my enemy close to me and my friends closer!
Make them pay for the ammo, for premium ammo. I was play with kv-4 stock gun 175 mm pen only with HE and I did like 1500 - 2000 damage per game in a tier X game, so yea you can play with standard ammo and make damage. But if you want premium ammo, then PAY for IT!

Phobos4321 #17 Posted 26 December 2017 - 08:28 PM

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dont forget to call me gold noob when my e50m rains APCR shells on you ...

Obsessive_Compulsive #18 Posted 27 December 2017 - 02:26 PM

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View PostEnforcer1975, on 26 December 2017 - 07:25 PM, said:

 

Spoiler

 

 

That spoiler was a real let down.:(

TheWarrener #19 Posted 27 December 2017 - 05:58 PM

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Yeah buddy, we have that superheavy meta going on and what you suggest is removing the only option to fight these abominations without paying real money. 

Great one fam, did you consider running for president? 



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