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Vaezy #1 Posted 27 December 2017 - 12:22 AM

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All I can say is how comes this tank is just so garbage. The most sluggish t8 tank and with a ton of weakspots. Lowe blocks more damage than this tank, has a better gun and moves faster.

tanker818 #2 Posted 27 December 2017 - 12:27 AM

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Yet people complain about no weakspots

Elus1oN #3 Posted 27 December 2017 - 01:36 AM

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Another happy customer which never did any research on a tank to be released.

Balc0ra #4 Posted 27 December 2017 - 01:56 AM

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Yeah it's not like every review about the tank more or less pointed out your complaints. And something you could have seen by even checking the stats in the garage before getting it. And if it did not have weakspots. You would be here creating topics about that you can't kill it when facing it instead. So no one wins either way.

RamRaid90 #5 Posted 27 December 2017 - 02:00 AM

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Wargaming *edited* up with premiums and made them too OP.

  • People cry about OP premium tanks. Say WG need to change their approach. They are having too much premium ammo fired at their Defenders.

 

Wargaming change their approach to premiums and revert to the tried and tested "Prems should be worse than standards" model.

  • The same people cry their OP wallet rapists are no longer P2W and bawl their eyes out about it. Enemies should need gold to penetrate them in their Tier VIIIs when they face tier X, because they want "balance"
 

View PostChalisto, on 27 December 2017 - 12:36 AM, said:

Another happy idiot which never did any research on a tank to be released.
FTFY
 

Edited by Daxeno, 27 December 2017 - 02:49 PM.
This post has been edited by the moderation team due to vulgarity.


stormermp #6 Posted 27 December 2017 - 02:12 AM

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View PostRamRaid90, on 27 December 2017 - 01:00 AM, said:

Wargaming *edited* up with premiums and made them too OP.

  • People cry about OP premium tanks. Say WG need to change their approach. They are having too much premium ammo fired at their Defenders.

 

Wargaming change their approach to premiums and revert to the tried and tested "Prems should be worse than standards" model.

  • The same people cry their OP wallet rapists are no longer P2W and bawl their eyes out about it. Enemies should need gold to penetrate them in their Tier VIIIs when they face tier X, because they want "balance"

 

So then you will agree for hefty nerfs to Defenders,Patriots etc.or do they deserve to have a tier 9 premium per se,while you drive a tank with no strong points at all

RamRaid90 #7 Posted 27 December 2017 - 02:14 AM

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View Poststormermp, on 27 December 2017 - 01:12 AM, said:

 

So then you will agree for hefty nerfs to Defenders,Patriots etc.or do they deserve to have a tier 9 premium per se,while you drive a tank with no strong points at all

 

Premium tanks cannot be altered once released.

 

Eventually the defender will remove itself.



BonjiOrongji #8 Posted 27 December 2017 - 02:38 AM

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View PostRamRaid90, on 27 December 2017 - 02:14 AM, said:

 

Premium tanks cannot be altered once released.

 

ofc they can and WG already did that  in the past ... WG is just not willing to do so anymore

Edited by BonjiOrongji, 27 December 2017 - 02:46 AM.


Strappster #9 Posted 27 December 2017 - 05:10 AM

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View PostRamRaid90, on 27 December 2017 - 01:14 AM, said:

Premium tanks cannot be altered once released.

 

They can be nerfed but WG prefer not to because they have to offer a refund; a precedent was set with the Spershing, the full value in gold was offered to owners who didn't want to keep the nerfed version.

 

WG did the same with three premium ships in Warboats when they changed the smoke mechanic earlier this year, which those ships in particular were rather good at abusing taking advantage of. Although they didn't offer anything to owners of the Błyskawica when they removed stealth firing, which implies that it's not a legal requirement or they felt the ship was strong enough not to rely on it (I prefer the latter interpretation, it's a good DD/CL hybrid now rather than a straight stealth DD).

 

 

View Poststormermp, on 27 December 2017 - 01:12 AM, said:

So then you will agree for hefty nerfs to Defenders,Patriots etc.or do they deserve to have a tier 9 premium per se,while you drive a tank with no strong points at all

 

Nerf the Defender all you want, I'd welcome the gold for it. It's got terribad gun handling and armour that only works until the enemy load gold, which most of them do the moment they see you because everyone knows about the armour.

 

The Patriot is a tougher call ... yes, it's strong frontally but weak elsewhere like all US tanks and only delivers 240 alpha when most tier 8 heavies have 300 minimum. The Patriot is probably one of the best medium tanks in the game but it's always going to be matched against another heavy.



SuedKAT #10 Posted 27 December 2017 - 05:48 AM

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View Poststormermp, on 27 December 2017 - 02:12 AM, said:

 

So then you will agree for hefty nerfs to Defenders,Patriots etc.or do they deserve to have a tier 9 premium per se,while you drive a tank with no strong points at all

 

The Defender don't exactly need any significant buffs apart from HP, a tiny bit base pen, DPM and some mobility for it to be a decent tier 10 HT, so yeah why not put it were it belongs: https://tanks.gg/com...defender?t=is-7

Search_Warrant #11 Posted 27 December 2017 - 09:06 AM

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View PostSuedKAT, on 27 December 2017 - 04:48 AM, said:

 

The Defender don't exactly need any significant buffs apart from HP, a tiny bit base pen, DPM and some mobility for it to be a decent tier 10 HT, so yeah why not put it were it belongs: https://tanks.gg/com...defender?t=is-7

 

Its already near enough a T-10 at teir 8 tbh :P

mathwat #12 Posted 27 December 2017 - 09:39 AM

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View PostRamRaid90, on 27 December 2017 - 01:14 AM, said:

 

Premium tanks cannot be altered once released.

 

Eventually the defender will remove itself.

 

Type 59 “cough”

Drunkrider #13 Posted 27 December 2017 - 09:43 AM

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The tank fully depending of MM. If you are at the bottom, facing tier 10 - it's a piece of s***t, not worth even waste a time and play. When you get tier 6 (which is maybe one of 20 battles), that very nice. Overall - waste of money

Edited by Drunkrider, 27 December 2017 - 09:44 AM.


Search_Warrant #14 Posted 27 December 2017 - 09:48 AM

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View PostDrunkrider, on 27 December 2017 - 08:43 AM, said:

The tank fully depending of MM. If you are at the bottom, facing tier 10 - it's a piece of s***t, not worth even waste a time and play. When you get tier 6 (which is maybe one of 20 battles), that very nice. Overall - waste of money

 

Kinda.. tier 6 can pen you if you angle 30 degree's... the MG port front.. big cupola... lower plate... the alpha is the only thing this turd has. armor is too wonkey and weak.

MiH102 #15 Posted 27 December 2017 - 11:21 AM

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thats why they should make something to test  tanks first, before buying.

2/3 battles would be enough


Edited by MiH102, 27 December 2017 - 11:21 AM.


Urmo345 #16 Posted 27 December 2017 - 11:52 AM

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nearly killed one alone with Tier8 T26E5, which is heavy, but actually medium-heavy tank with a weak gun. Someone else made the mercy shot...:( Just circle it and shoot the weak spots (you have enough time to aim, i tell you) . I feel pity of those who got this slow moving target, it is even worse than playing heavy German TD's :P

Edited by Urmo345, 27 December 2017 - 11:54 AM.


THE_JACK_OF_HEARTS #17 Posted 27 December 2017 - 01:48 PM

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I have seen some players do really well in this german super heavy, I suppose its the player..

Bucifel #18 Posted 27 December 2017 - 01:56 PM

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View PostVaezy, on 27 December 2017 - 12:22 AM, said:

All I can say is how comes this tank is just so garbage. The most sluggish t8 tank and with a ton of weakspots. Lowe blocks more damage than this tank, has a better gun and moves faster.

 

just GTFO p2w balance breaker :facepalm:

suvicze #19 Posted 27 December 2017 - 01:58 PM

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View PostTHE_JACK_OF_HEARTS, on 27 December 2017 - 01:48 PM, said:

I have seen some players do really well in this german super heavy, I suppose its the player..

 

Well thats the case for pretty much any tank. Good players can make even turds like TVP, t34-2 or churchill GC work while tomatoes fail even in vk 100.01p or defender as top tier in 3-5-7 on city map...

MrGimpSuit #20 Posted 27 December 2017 - 02:17 PM

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I had a two hour IS3 and 50-100 grind session last nite. Thanks to you and others for buying this turd and making my grinds last night a pleasure. Was a particular joy to farm a pair in a toon fisherman's bay. Almost made tier 8 playable again.




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