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Lentomies1 #1 Posted 27 December 2017 - 11:06 PM

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Hi everyone! :)

 

​I don't usually post anything like this on the forums, and I might not be good at making long posts. (so sorry if everything is in weird order or makes no sense)

 

The following statistics are made by me, NOT by Wargaming.

And also, I am in no means "demanding" these changes, but I would like to hear your opinions. :P

 

SU-100M1

 

 

 

SU-101

 

SU-122-54

 

Obj. 263 and Object 268 Version 4

 


Edited by Lentomies1, 28 December 2017 - 12:03 AM.


basin79 #2 Posted 27 December 2017 - 11:17 PM

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I've wanted the 263 for years but the line always put me off. I've since started to grind and I'm on the tier 8. I'm genuinely thinking of free xping (using gold) to get the 263 now just so I can actually play it as a tier 10.

Commonsense says no. Really loud. But I want to experience it for a bit.

Derethim #3 Posted 27 December 2017 - 11:39 PM

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Can't agree with everything, the buffs seem too big and Russian TDs are supposed to follow the Russian standard of bad gun depression.

Agree on the 263 tho, it should stay as-is. Even better - I think you should only be ablge to go to the V4 from either the 263 or the 268.

We don't have this sort of connection yet. Going from tier X to another tier X.



ares354 #4 Posted 27 December 2017 - 11:44 PM

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View PostLentomies1, on 27 December 2017 - 11:06 PM, said:

Hi everyone! :)

 

​I don't usually post anything like this on the forums, and I might not be good at making long posts. (so sorry if everything is in weird order or makes no sense)

 

The following statistics are made by me, NOT by Wargaming.

And also, I am in no means "demanding" these changes, but I would like to hear your opinions. :P

 

SU-100M1

 

 

 

SU-101

 

SU-122-54

 

Obj. 263 and Object 268 Version 4

 

 

If Su 101 is worst tier 8, then TVP VTU and T34-2 are beasts. 

You just give those tank same thing as WG did, adding armor. Those TD had no armor, only tier 10 have. Rest dont have and dont need armor. 

Anhaedra #5 Posted 27 December 2017 - 11:45 PM

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The 263s tierX removal is a total cretin idea. I think it fits the tier 10 perfectly. I had seen better days, but still its a unique tank which can provide good battles, and there is no real reason to "downtier" it.

Anhaedra #6 Posted 27 December 2017 - 11:47 PM

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View Postares354, on 27 December 2017 - 10:44 PM, said:

 

If Su 101 is worst tier 8, then TVP VTU and T34-2 are beasts. 

You just give those tank same thing as WG did, adding armor. Those TD had no armor, only tier 10 have. Rest dont have and dont need armor. 

 

The su-101 was a real pain to play before it got the beast gun. Its very good now imo. The tvp and the t34-2 are still utter crap.

Lentomies1 #7 Posted 27 December 2017 - 11:48 PM

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View Postares354, on 28 December 2017 - 12:44 AM, said:

 

If Su 101 is worst tier 8, then TVP VTU and T34-2 are beasts. 

You just give those tank same thing as WG did, adding armor. Those TD had no armor, only tier 10 have. Rest dont have and dont need armor. 

 

I didn't say that the SU-101 IS THE WORST tier 8 tank. I said it's ONE OF THE WORST tier 8 tanks. 

 

T-34-2 and TVP VTU need huge buffs as well tho.



basin79 #8 Posted 27 December 2017 - 11:49 PM

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View PostAnhaedra, on 27 December 2017 - 11:47 PM, said:

 

The su-101 was a real pain to play before it got the beast gun. Its very good now imo. The tvp and the t34-2 are still utter crap.

I'm enjoying it with the small gun. The DPM seems fantastic. The 2 key does need dabbing though now and again which is odd for a tier 8 TD. 



Anhaedra #9 Posted 27 December 2017 - 11:52 PM

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View Postbasin79, on 27 December 2017 - 10:49 PM, said:

I'm enjoying it with the small gun. The DPM seems fantastic. The 2 key does need dabbing though now and again which is odd for a tier 8 TD. 

 

Thats my problem, i hate to use gold ammo. To tell the truth, it is a very rare occasion when i do. 

Lentomies1 #10 Posted 27 December 2017 - 11:57 PM

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View PostAnhaedra, on 28 December 2017 - 12:52 AM, said:

 

Thats my problem, i hate to use gold ammo. To tell the truth, it is a very rare occasion when i do.

Maybe the armor and gun depression buffs I suggested + pen buff to 238mm for the small gun would make this tank enjoyable?

IMO this would make much more sense than having that great DPM with 440 alpha.

 


Edited by Lentomies1, 27 December 2017 - 11:58 PM.


Laur_Balaur_XD #11 Posted 28 December 2017 - 12:00 AM

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View Postbasin79, on 27 December 2017 - 10:49 PM, said:

I'm enjoying it with the small gun. The DPM seems fantastic. The 2 key does need dabbing though now and again which is odd for a tier 8 TD. 

 

The 2 key needs what??:amazed:

Lentomies1 #12 Posted 28 December 2017 - 12:02 AM

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View PostIulian_ro, on 28 December 2017 - 01:00 AM, said:

 

The 2 key needs what??:amazed:

 



Laur_Balaur_XD #13 Posted 28 December 2017 - 12:12 AM

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View PostLentomies1, on 27 December 2017 - 11:02 PM, said:

Spoiler

 

 

Oh god...:facepalm:

Now please explain me how can you apply that move to the 2 key on your keyboard.

Like this?

 

 

 

 

Or you put it on your face/eyes like this and press it with your elbow?



ZlatanArKung #14 Posted 28 December 2017 - 12:38 AM

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SU-101 should just get apcr rounds as standard on the 100mm with the increased pen to like 250.
And then remove the 122mm gun.

TsundereWaffle #15 Posted 28 December 2017 - 12:46 AM

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SU-101 has 3k base dpm though, not 2.2k :thinking:

Anyways, all of this would already be a billion times better than that shít WG is trying to do



Lentomies1 #16 Posted 28 December 2017 - 09:27 AM

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View PostTsundereWaffle, on 28 December 2017 - 01:46 AM, said:

SU-101 has 3k base dpm though, not 2.2k :thinking:

Anyways, all of this would already be a billion times better than that shít WG is trying to do

 

SU-101 has 2.2K base DPM with the big gun that has 440 alpha. 



Soifon99 #17 Posted 28 December 2017 - 10:01 AM

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The thing that pisses me off is that they are changing the type of gameplay from mobile high dpm TD, to a mediocre mobility TD with low dpm derp gun. f*ck that wargaming.

 

I grinded this line for the high dpm 550 alfa accurate gun..   and now we are getting a turd of a gun so they force you to brawl in the short to mid range, with a td!!  that turns slow.. so you will get raped ALL the time by meds and lights..  

 

if this happens i'm not playing it ever.



TsundereWaffle #18 Posted 28 December 2017 - 10:52 AM

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View PostLentomies1, on 28 December 2017 - 09:27 AM, said:

 

SU-101 has 2.2K base DPM with the big gun that has 440 alpha. 

 

If you use the 122 on the SU-101 you don’t deserve to play the tank





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