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RuNyX #1 Posted 28 December 2017 - 03:29 PM

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For 2018 WG plans to remove the SU-122-54.I played this tank on a friend's account and i really like it,i also own a SU-122-44  my question is:If i will research the SU-122-54 and own it in my garage when the time comes they will remove it from my garage or it will become Reward tank such as FV215b ?.I mean it lacks hitpoints but it's quite fun.


Edited by RuNyX, 28 December 2017 - 03:31 PM.


qpranger #2 Posted 28 December 2017 - 03:38 PM

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Just buy the WZ-120-1G FT :)

Bennie182 #3 Posted 28 December 2017 - 03:39 PM

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RuNyX #4 Posted 28 December 2017 - 03:52 PM

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View Postqpranger, on 28 December 2017 - 03:38 PM, said:

Just buy the WZ-120-1G FT :)

 

I just want to know if i will research it (cause now i am at Su-100) they will remove it from my garage...I dont want to spend time for nothing

Edited by RuNyX, 28 December 2017 - 03:57 PM.


Nallic #5 Posted 30 December 2017 - 10:26 PM

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Is there actually any kind of compensation for this? I used to have a 'full' line, now I'll be missing a tier 10 and a fully researched & paid for tier 9 is getting removed. On top of that, the tier 10 is getting moved to 9 so naturally will be worth less in terms of credits and experience used to unlock.

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View PostNallic, on 30 December 2017 - 10:26 PM, said:

Is there actually any kind of compensation for this? I used to have a 'full' line, now I'll be missing a tier 10 and a fully researched & paid for tier 9 is getting removed. On top of that, the tier 10 is getting moved to 9 so naturally will be worth less in terms of credits and experience used to unlock.

You'll get the new tier 10 so the 263 going to tier 9 won't cost you credits. 

 

However you will lose all the time and effort you put in grind for the 263 as a tier 10 TD. Of course WG give owners of the Death Star the chance to keep it. The chance to keep the tier 10 FV heavy. But the 263 gets moved down so "tough luck". 

 

Cobra6 made a great comment on another thread. He put WG are removing the SU-122-54 so that they can then sell it as a tier 8 prem. I reckon he's right. 


Edited by basin79, 30 December 2017 - 11:47 PM.


Uebergewicht #7 Posted 30 December 2017 - 11:55 PM

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This change is overall complete bollocks. Let´s hope if we remind WG often enough that it gets into their thick skulls that nobody wants their bloody friggin replacement - I just want my 263 intact, the tank and the playstyle I ground the line for. I handt touched this if the end goal was some gold-magnet, low dpm TD with a derpy gun.

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View Postbasin79, on 30 December 2017 - 11:44 PM, said:

You'll get the new tier 10 so the 263 going to tier 9 won't cost you credits. 

 

However you will lose all the time and effort you put in grind for the 263 as a tier 10 TD. Of course WG give owners of the Death Star the chance to keep it. The chance to keep the tier 10 FV heavy. But the 263 gets moved down so "tough luck". 

 

Cobra6 made a great comment on another thread. He put WG are removing the SU-122-54 so that they can then sell it as a tier 8 prem. I reckon he's right. 

 

Not unlikely. They pulled the same stunt with the lorr 40t. I really like the 122-54, best casemate medium in the game, so I am not too happy about its removal.

TsundereWaffle #9 Posted 31 December 2017 - 01:44 AM

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Since the SU-122-54 is one of my favorite tanks in the game, if not my favorite. So I’m still hoping the changes won’t go through as they are simply retarded, and I don’t get how WG doesn’t see it. The entire Russian community complains, the entire European clmmunity complains yet WG simply doesn’t care or even listen...

RamRaid90 #10 Posted 31 December 2017 - 01:51 AM

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View PostTsundereWaffle, on 31 December 2017 - 12:44 AM, said:

Since the SU-122-54 is one of my favorite tanks in the game, if not my favorite. So I’m still hoping the changes won’t go through as they are simply retarded, and I don’t get how WG doesn’t see it. The entire Russian community complains, the entire European clmmunity complains yet WG simply doesn’t care or even listen...

 

Nobody even asked for the change...

 

Thats the worst thing. Not a single person to my knowledge has complained about those tanks..

 

Just like nobody with a braincell wanted the MM changes. It's getting more and more ridiculous every time.


Edited by RamRaid90, 31 December 2017 - 01:56 AM.


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View PostRamRaid90, on 31 December 2017 - 12:51 AM, said:

 

Nobody even asked for the change...

 

Thats the worst thing. Not a single person to my knowledge has complained about those tanks..

 

Just like nobody with a braincell wanted the MM changes. It's getting more and more ridiculous every time.

 

Same story with the UI Changes, instead of trying to fix stuff that isn't broken they should hire a decent translator.

RuNyX #12 Posted 01 January 2018 - 01:50 PM

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View Postbasin79, on 30 December 2017 - 11:44 PM, said:

 

Cobra6 made a great comment on another thread. He put WG are removing the SU-122-54 so that they can then sell it as a tier 8 prem. I reckon he's right. 

So why are they doing this?We already have SU-122-44 .Both tanks are quite the same...



Draqutsc #13 Posted 01 January 2018 - 02:47 PM

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View PostRuNyX, on 01 January 2018 - 01:50 PM, said:

So why are they doing this?We already have SU-122-44 .Both tanks are quite the same...

 

Because they want money and they are bloody ********. No one asked for this change and there was a massive backlash even on the Russian servers but because the sandbox testers said that these changes where positive, that they will push these changes.

 

Don't forget that these sandbox testers said that the defender was balanced and that the mauerbrecher was also balanced, yet the mauerbrecher  is garbage and the defender is OP. 

 


Edited by Draqutsc, 01 January 2018 - 03:00 PM.


TEMELJNI #14 Posted 01 January 2018 - 03:04 PM

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https://thearmoredpa...swap-cancelled/

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View PostTEMELJNI, on 01 January 2018 - 02:04 PM, said:

 

they cancelled it, and then said they are doing it again. Look at the date

TEMELJNI #16 Posted 01 January 2018 - 03:07 PM

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View Postxx984, on 01 January 2018 - 03:06 PM, said:

 

they cancelled it, and then said they are doing it again. Look at the date

 

ffs

 

I cant tell you how much i consider that a bad idea. The 122-54 is AWESOME, and is in fact in complete synergy with all the td-s in line. Fast, manouverable, insane dpm. Its not a "kemp bush" tank so people complain about its ineffectiveness. That tank is a beast, pulling 4k games in it without camping behind everyone but rather spearheading the front with meds. Its versatile, and much as i understand the next tank in line is exactly the same WITH armor compared to all its predecessors. 

This switch/change is absolutelly not required, the whole tank line is DIFFERENT and appealing to people who like more dynamic playstyle.

But i guess WG testers consider tank destroyers should sit in the back and support their heavies ... just like jgpz e100, grille, e3-4, t95 players are doing "cough, cough"


Edited by TEMELJNI, 01 January 2018 - 03:11 PM.


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View PostTEMELJNI, on 01 January 2018 - 04:07 PM, said:

The 122-54 is AWESOME, and is in fact in complete synergy with all the td-s in line.

I did both TD lines. I like the 122-54, but you can't say it's in complete anything when it so different from the others.

 

Up to tier 6, you have a joint TD line and you have both types, the rear mounted gun and the flat kind. Then they split, and the 122-54 doesn't fit with the other 2, no matter how much you try to spin it.



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View PostSpurtung, on 01 January 2018 - 06:57 PM, said:

I did both TD lines. I like the 122-54, but you can't say it's in complete anything when it so different from the others.

 

Up to tier 6, you have a joint TD line and you have both types, the rear mounted gun and the flat kind. Then they split, and the 122-54 doesn't fit with the other 2, no matter how much you try to spin it.

 

Im talking about tanks specs and gameplay style, not visual identity.

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Just Wargaming messing around stuff that was actully working pretty fine.

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If I would hazard a guess:

 

The SU-122-54 will be removed from the regular tech tree when the branch changes and will return at the same time or a couple of months later as the new tier 8 Russian premium TD since the Russian branch does not have a Tier 8 TD yet (ISU 130 is only for a select few, not available to normal players) and this one is quite ideal for that purpose.

 

Of course previous owners of the vehicle won't get it for free like they did with the T34 because customer service is a filthy word.

 

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