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Snatch_The_AmmoRacks #1 Posted 30 December 2017 - 10:22 PM

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If you could skip a line or most of a line which one would it be and why?

 

This has nothing to do with having 2mil free xp. :unsure:

 

Edit: Alot of people are suggesting the CZ line and Swedish TD line.  Way ahead of you guys on those. Free xp got thrown at those lines without a second thought :coin:

 


Edited by JuicyProduction, 31 December 2017 - 05:25 PM.


SuedKAT #2 Posted 30 December 2017 - 10:33 PM

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I'll have to go with the low and mid tier Swedish TD's, the IKV 103 is horrific, the IKV 65 works but the gun is more trollish than my old BL-10 gun and the DPM is bad on top of that, the IKV 90B I haven't played yet but I haven't heard anything positive about it.

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1st: there are some lines which I would not grind in any circumstances, for example jap heavies (UFO tanks made for retarded kids), british TD's (the one ending in Badger, totally idiot vehicles with impenetrable armor), swedish med/heavy line (not a single decent tank in there). 

 

2nd: lines which's tiers from 1 to 7 or 8 should be skipped are at least: 

 

- CZ  (TVP VTU is along Sturer Emil and T-44 the worst tank in game (compared to one's tier), and the others are not much better either) and

- US medium. 


Edited by juonimies, 30 December 2017 - 10:54 PM.


Isharial #4 Posted 30 December 2017 - 10:38 PM

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View Postjuonimies, on 30 December 2017 - 10:35 PM, said:

1st: there are some lines which I would not grind in any circumstances, for example jap heavies (UFO tanks made for retarded kids), british TD's (the one ending in Badger, totally idiot vehicles with impenetrable armor), swedish med/heavy line (not a single decent tank in there).

 

2nd: lines which's tiers from 1 to 7 or 8 should be skipped are at least:

 

- CZ  and

- US medium.

 

idk, the Jumbo and T20 are decent mediums for their tiers, and the EMIL2 isn't a "bad" tank, the turret armour is atleast useable

 

personally, I don't like to free xp anything but Tiger P and that pos that is the T8 WZ TD in the Chinese line, both are horrible tanks and deserve nothing but free



leggasiini #5 Posted 30 December 2017 - 11:56 PM

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- French (2nd) HT line is quite bad...

 

Tier 2-4: kinda retarded heavies with shitty guns and mobility, and okay armor that wont work against many opponents

Tier 5 is playable at least, 240 alpha is fun

Tier 6 is bad

Tier 7 is super bad

Tier 8 makes the tier 7 look like an utter god

 

It is still bad with autoloaders tho at least the tier 8 is ok there.

 

- CZ MTs are also bad, outside from tier 6 you have basically trashcans on tracks and tier 9 has utterly awful stock grind.

 

- Swedish lines are ughh too, basically only decent mid/lowtiers are the tier 5-6 MTs (tier 7, Leo, is kinda fun-ish, but not very good and many hate it). The HT line is unfun to play + the tier 10 sucks and entire TD line is basically full of trashcans until tier 8.

 

- British lines used to suck hard but they are much better than they used to be, though HT line is still utterly terrible at tier 5-7.



XxKuzkina_MatxX #6 Posted 30 December 2017 - 11:56 PM

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View PostIsharial, on 30 December 2017 - 11:38 PM, said:

 

idk, the Jumbo and T20 are decent mediums for their tiers, and the EMIL2 isn't a "bad" tank, the turret armour is atleast useable

 

personally, I don't like to free xp anything but Tiger P and that pos that is the T8 WZ TD in the Chinese line, both are horrible tanks and deserve nothing but free

 

Every tank in that line apart from the pershing is quite good and if the MM was a little bit kind to tier 8 mediums it would be an OK tank.



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View PostJuicyProduction, on 30 December 2017 - 10:22 PM, said:

If you could skip a line or most of a line which one would it be and why?

 

This has nothing to do with having 2mil free xp. :unsure:

 

 

Arty. I have gone up almost all lines and I am getting close to owning every single tank in the game and the one thing that never fails to annoy is grinding arty. Most SPG's are horrible, useless time wasters. There are a few exceptions such as the Bishop, FV304 and the M53, but otherwise, grinding arty is just about as unfun as it gets.

 

French td's. If, for some reason, you really want that Foch wannabe... Apart from the tier 5 which is strangle enjoyable, everything else is beyond terrible.

 

Chinese meds. More precisely, the T8 and the T9. They appear to have been designed with the sole purpose to make you spend free xp.

 

New French heavies. Especially the tier 7, although not new, is a worthy candidate. (One wonders, if you start a new line: how hard is it too fix one of the worst tanks in the game while your are at it?)

 

Otherwise, my experience is that grinding most tech trees isn't so bad if you have the free xp to unlock modules. Stock grinds are painful. Avoid those and it is a whole new world. :-)



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Any line I grind is my least favourite. 

Only after the grind is over I can relax and enjoy that tank completely.



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I gotta say I enjoyed the Swedish non-TDs so far: Tier 6 and 8 are really great, tier 7 and 9 are alright, the tier 10 is okay-ish. American meds, the tier 5 is pure fun, tier 6 okay-ish, tier 7 absolutely awesome and tier 8 alright, too. Havent gotten higher, but the tier 9 looks pretty alright as well. Don´t see a reason to skip them.

 

My personal recomendation are Object 263 line, tiers 8 and 9. Those tanks are an absolute pain to play, I just wanted to get over with them and finally get my hands on the 263. If you wanna experience the glory of the Killdozer before WG [edited]them up, this might be a good way to spend some free XP, get a unique tank and save yourself a painful grind.



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View Postqpranger, on 31 December 2017 - 01:12 AM, said:

Any line I grind is my least favourite. 

Only after the grind is over I can relax and enjoy that tank completely.

Very, Very, very relatable.

View PostUebergewicht, on 31 December 2017 - 01:18 AM, said:

I gotta say I enjoyed the Swedish non-TDs so far: Tier 6 and 8 are really great, tier 7 and 9 are alright, the tier 10 is okay-ish. American meds, the tier 5 is pure fun, tier 6 okay-ish, tier 7 absolutely awesome and tier 8 alright, too. Havent gotten higher, but the tier 9 looks pretty alright as well. Don´t see a reason to skip them.

 

My personal recomendation are Object 263 line, tiers 8 and 9. Those tanks are an absolute pain to play, I just wanted to get over with them and finally get my hands on the 263. If you wanna experience the glory of the Killdozer before WG [edited]them up, this might be a good way to spend some free XP, get a unique tank and save yourself a painful grind.

 

 I was thinking about that but I hope you're aware that the 263 will be moved to tier 9 meaning it's not going to be one of those special retired tier x vehicle. Unfortunate really as it's being replaced with a generic blaster and the same goes for my 430 which I like as much as my 907 :( Hope wargaming actually cancels these changes rather than delaying it and trying to shove it down are throats at a later stage like the trick they just pulled. Idiots.

 

 

 


logaritmusnaturalis #11 Posted 31 December 2017 - 02:33 AM

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My grind obj 140 was painful since I took the obj 416 route because i also wanted the obj 416, never regreted that choice obj416 is life obj 416 is love. But the A-43 and A-44 were horrendous to get through, completely garbage tanks, utter crap, having nothign going for them! 

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Nothing have been worse than French TD's. Nothing. 

Bitter_Kipper #13 Posted 31 December 2017 - 03:04 AM

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There is a special place in hell for the Ikea 103. Crew would be better getting out and throwing the shells. The rest of that line just horrible paper insta dead when spotted. Tier 8 and then you get siege mode a whole different frustration.

 

Only grind I completely stalled on was the Brit assault tds before the changes. Suppose I could try again, but after harvesting AT15s before the patch???

AT7 right hand gun half the map difficult/useless. Hills on map - so sorry Copula gonna announce your arrival and it is a weak spot yey.  Arty in the game? You now have 2 or three corners to play with. Your team winning? tough titty you ain't keeping up. Team collapsing just as you arrive - yeah you ain't running away.

 

Never contemplated the French Tds, because 155 was nerfed into the ground just after I joined the game and the tears and rage on the forum was epic.



Phobos4321 #14 Posted 31 December 2017 - 04:26 AM

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perhaps skippen the cz  untill t9 ?

or the swedish tds  up to t8

 

most lines got great tanks with a few exp traps  whilefor the czs most tanks are bad also the swedish tds are hardly fun 

T5 td shooting 120mm HEAT ?  with that most T6 would be already hardly fightable  also its HEAT so hitting tracks or spaced armor ...  not to forget its aimtime and acc. is horrible

T6 got very poor pen, long aimtime

T7 got a bit better gun  still aimtime and acc seems to be lacking

 

 

just compare it to for example the jp med line  that mostly got only the Chi-Ri as aweful tank,or the paper german tds that are mostly great   where only the st emil makes you suffer  but as elite tank you got some  12.8cm gun on a T7 tank with probably the best gun depression of all tanks in the game 

 

so the main aspect would be how many awefulltanks are in a line, how many great and also the question on what tier are they  low tiers are rather fast finished but some awefull T9 tank might take ages to complete



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I cannot recall an entire line where its  :(   , but the panther  and panther 2 before the buffs sigh. Worth it though once you get the E50s .  

Phobos4321 #16 Posted 31 December 2017 - 04:35 AM

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the E50 used to be the worst stockgrind in the game at least back when i did it

Balc0ra #17 Posted 31 December 2017 - 11:03 AM

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Czechs. Besides the Tier 6 and the tier 9. Nothing was worth keeping or worked well. And the tier 9 stock was terrible. Stock mobility was horrible. Tier 7 was great as top tier at times, and not the worst. But still not a keeper. Tier 8 is def one of the worst tier 8 meds in the game. 

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View Postjuonimies, on 30 December 2017 - 10:35 PM, said:

1st: there are some lines which I would not grind in any circumstances, for example jap heavies (UFO tanks made for retarded kids), british TD's (the one ending in Badger, totally idiot vehicles with impenetrable armor), swedish med/heavy line (not a single decent tank in there). 

 

2nd: lines which's tiers from 1 to 7 or 8 should be skipped are at least: 

 

- CZ  (TVP VTU is along Sturer Emil and T-44 the worst tank in game (compared to one's tier), and the others are not much better either) and

- US medium. 

 

T44 is a good tank. What are you smoking?

 

Also the Swede heavy/Med line has a great tank at tier6. Good gun dep + amazing gun handling

 

As for bad lines - China HT - Tier6 is a very bad t34-85, t7 is an IS with a derpier gun so you miss even more and t8 has armor that never works, wonky gun that never hits and low alpha



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View Postlogaritmusnaturalis, on 31 December 2017 - 02:33 AM, said:

My grind obj 140 was painful since I took the obj 416 route because i also wanted the obj 416, never regreted that choice obj416 is life obj 416 is love. But the A-43 and A-44 were horrendous to get through, completely garbage tanks, utter crap, having nothign going for them! 

 

a-44 seems like a pile of poo, but i surpised myslef with really liking the a-43 so far, and im pretty much all stock on that tank, i dont even have the turret, yet i still really really like it. You have to use the 57 mm gun tho, the 76 is garbage.

 

As an even bigger suprise, i absolutely hated the t-34, to such a point, where i liked the stock a-43 with an 80% crew more than i liked the t-34 fully uppgraded with a 100% crew.



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View PostJuicyProduction, on 31 December 2017 - 02:23 AM, said:

 

 I was thinking about that but I hope you're aware that the 263 will be moved to tier 9 meaning it's not going to be one of those special retired tier x vehicle. Unfortunate really as it's being replaced with a generic blaster and the same goes for my 430 which I like as much as my 907 :( Hope wargaming actually cancels these changes rather than delaying it and trying to shove it down are throats at a later stage like the trick they just pulled. Idiots.

 

Oh yes I´m aware and I´m super salty about it - which is why I said now is your last chance, most likely, to experience the 263. But I can obviously understand not wantign to spend free XP on a tier ten that may only be left intact for two months or so.






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