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Enderman21 #1 Posted 31 December 2017 - 08:55 PM

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I'm playing the chinese lights  with rammer, coated optics, vents and since they don't have the best gun handling, I wonder if I should put stabilizer instead of vents. I don't really want to replace the vents only because of the reload time and extra 10-15 meters of view range. What do you guys think?

MR_FIAT #2 Posted 31 December 2017 - 08:57 PM

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always V-stab, always. no question about it. 

German_Dunc #3 Posted 31 December 2017 - 08:59 PM

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In the old meta, I'd have said vents, because that buffs everything important in a light; camo, spotting, mobility, and gun handling.

 

Less important given there's only a couple of pure spotting maps now. Try vstab and see how you get on



SuedKAT #4 Posted 01 January 2018 - 01:13 AM

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Any tank that can mount gun rammer + vert stabs I mount it, the only question is really for the last slot and that usually comes down to vents or optics. So personally I'd go with rammer, vert stabs and optics on a LT.

ortega456 #5 Posted 01 January 2018 - 01:50 AM

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^ this!

Swoopie #6 Posted 01 January 2018 - 01:51 AM

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View PostSuedKAT, on 01 January 2018 - 02:13 AM, said:

Any tank that can mount gun rammer + vert stabs I mount it, the only question is really for the last slot and that usually comes down to vents or optics. So personally I'd go with rammer, vert stabs and optics on a LT.

 

Generally this, with one of the few exceptions being T-100. The gun handling values are already good enough that 20% improved gun handling wont actually make a big difference in it so you can actually ditch Vert Stab and go for Vents (Final setup being Vents/Rammer/Optics)

Edited by Swoopie, 01 January 2018 - 01:52 AM.


_T_1_T_4_N_0_ #7 Posted 01 January 2018 - 07:52 AM

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Its sort of a problem at the moment with a truly dire map rotation that forces lights to be just lesser versions of mediums.
I have done all my light campaign missions with vents / binnocs/ net mainly in my fully pimped wz-132.
Extremely situational but yeah makes those missions a cinch, if you can cope with the map wait
Its just really frustrating waiting for the occasional map where that setup is effective, but with current MM you will hit a big HP pool.
Prob a real scout is vents / optics / rammer but with maps...
Blackdog I just run out for fun and have rammer / optics / vert stab and I am far to aggressive in it but its a fun tank that earns creds easily.

How often Himms comes up is a joke, Ensk + Mines are not much better and then we have all the 'New' combination maps that for me are truly awful.
I don't play lights above T8 as the poor medium becomes far to evident.
How you setup & play lights in the current meta is an extremely good question. 

 

Enterprise_NCC1701A #8 Posted 01 January 2018 - 11:07 AM

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I have a type 64 and i play it just for fun, not missions. i didn't choose optics because i don't think that spotting is that important any more. And i mean for those few extra meters more. I picked the rest three, but it is also important the crew, if you have a lot of skills. on the other hand, optics is good for missions!

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View PostSwoopie, on 01 January 2018 - 01:51 AM, said:

 

Generally this, with one of the few exceptions being T-100. The gun handling values are already good enough that 20% improved gun handling wont actually make a big difference in it so you can actually ditch Vert Stab and go for Vents (Final setup being Vents/Rammer/Optics)

 

Also true for the T92, I think.

 



TheWarrener #10 Posted 01 January 2018 - 11:11 AM

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Vstab and no vstab is like day and night 

Lycopersicon #11 Posted 01 January 2018 - 11:25 AM

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When I equipped Chaffee (way back before its castration, when it had 390m base VR), I decided to go for maximum spotting capabilities, so I slapped on optics and vents and then started to think about the third slot. At that point, I figured that vstab made more sense than rammer, because I expected this spotter to have opportunistic (mostly on-the-move) shots at things, not to participate in knife fights or to wipe out enemy armies from behind a bush. Not that I am recommending this setup, but IMO if one were to drop anything for vents, it makes a lot of sense to drop rammer rather than vstab.

Edited by Lycopersicon, 01 January 2018 - 11:44 AM.


Bennie182 #12 Posted 01 January 2018 - 11:42 AM

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vstab

Strappster #13 Posted 01 January 2018 - 11:43 AM

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I play a few of my lights with vstabs, vents and optics. I'm not a good enough player to get into trade battles with a tank that has no armour and a less effective gun so I'll use the additional 0.5s a rammer would afford to hide behind a rock rather than get the next shell out that little bit quicker.

 

I'll always put vstabs on when I can though, makes a big difference when firing on the move.



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View PostEnterprise_NCC1701A, on 01 January 2018 - 11:07 AM, said:

I have a type 64 and i play it just for fun, not missions. i didn't choose optics because i don't think that spotting is that important any more. And i mean for those few extra meters more. I picked the rest three, but it is also important the crew, if you have a lot of skills. on the other hand, optics is good for missions!

 

You what mate?

Bennie182 #15 Posted 01 January 2018 - 12:29 PM

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View PostEnterprise_NCC1701A, on 01 January 2018 - 11:07 AM, said:

I have a type 64 and i play it just for fun, not missions. i didn't choose optics because i don't think that spotting is that important any more. And i mean for those few extra meters more. I picked the rest three, but it is also important the crew, if you have a lot of skills. on the other hand, optics is good for missions!

39 meters isn't just a "few extra meters" XD without it you probably won't get your VR above 445m.



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View PostLycopersicon, on 01 January 2018 - 11:25 AM, said:

When I equipped Chaffee (way back before its castration, when it had 390m base VR), I decided to go for maximum spotting capabilities, so I slapped on optics and vents and then started to think about the third slot. At that point, I figured that vstab made more sense than rammer, because I expected this spotter to have opportunistic (mostly on-the-move) shots at things, not to participate in knife fights or to wipe out enemy armies from behind a bush. Not that I am recommending this setup, but IMO if one were to drop anything for vents, it makes a lot of sense to drop rammer rather than vstab.

 

Yeah, you could do that in the old scout MM becauseotherwise said scout would be totally and utterly pointless, expecially in the times when the Chaffe, VK2801 etc were the highest tier scouts and saw tier ten games. 

Brodie_ #17 Posted 01 January 2018 - 05:21 PM

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There are a very few tanks that have such good basic gun handling, that mean vents are the better option.

However if there is any question of this, then it is vert stabs in almost all cases!

If in doubt watch a streamer like Quickybaby, Circonflexes, or Foch to see what they run. 

 

Good luck! 

 


Edited by Brodie_, 01 January 2018 - 07:59 PM.


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View PostMR_FIAT, on 31 December 2017 - 09:57 PM, said:

always V-stab, always. no question about it. 

 

Not on T-100 LT, for example. There are some rare cases.

 

 

@OP: Out of the 6 Chinese LTs currently in my garage, every single one has rammer, vstab and optics.


Edited by Spurtung, 01 January 2018 - 05:43 PM.





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