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Is there any plan to actually fix T8 MM in the near future.

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sir_wizington #1 Posted 01 January 2018 - 03:26 PM

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Every one is constantly complaining about how tier 8s are pretty much constantly in tier 10 battles, im currently playing the Charioteer and out of the approximately 60 games ive played in it i have only seen a tier 6-8 battle 3 times. Being bottom tier is not a problem in the Charioteer but meanwhile in the Tiger II and T-34-2... 

 

I guess the original plan was to use grand battles to reduce the amount of tier 10 in the standard MM pool therefore fixing tier 8s MM. However, i think most players, including myself have unchecked 'grand battles' or as i like to call them: Two opposed walls of 15 tier 10 TDs annihilating anybody who tries to do something other then camp behind a rock or hill featuring 5 arty for good measure battles.

 

Im kinda annoyed about it because i have a few tier 8 prems that when i want to train crews or grind creds i just get constantly in t10 battles and getting buttf$%^ed by TVOP 50 51 and OBJ140 in an STA-2 is just my definition of fun. When you're super bottom tier its just near impossible to carry the 500wn8 tier 10 heaves. I Don't mind getting into tier 10 battles, but when its just constant for 7-10 games its just too much.

 

Is there a plan B for fixing t8 MM? i seem to remember seeing some WG post somewhere saying it will be an issue they will look at in 2018.



ApocalypseSquad #2 Posted 01 January 2018 - 03:31 PM

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But it's fixed.  It's perfect.  They said so in their 2017 review, so it must be true....



Jack_Sparroxx #3 Posted 01 January 2018 - 03:52 PM

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its not going to get fixed as long as WG continues with personal reserves, loads of XP boost events, rebate events and tank of the month.. All those F2P players and less "skillfull" players who might be able to get 2-3 tier 10 tonks are having a lot easier way up to tier 10.

 

They are not going to introduce skillbased MM and I hope they never do, it will be ranked battle in randoms with out rewards, and ranked it nothing but gold spam fiesta, no thanks. And limit MM to +1 only , not going to happen either "long" queue waiting times kills MMO's, WOT wont be any different. 

 

However, if they changed the priority of the current MM system it might get better, so instead of 3-5-7, full tier and 5-10, perhaps change it to 5-10, full tier and if not enough people in queue activate 3-5-7.  



CmdRatScabies #4 Posted 01 January 2018 - 03:54 PM

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They've acknowledged that there is a problem but I'm not sure they know how to address it.

_Sensation_ #5 Posted 01 January 2018 - 04:31 PM

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No

 

MM is working as intended - WG



BillCarson1997 #6 Posted 01 January 2018 - 04:37 PM

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Its so stupid and ridiculous to play a tier 8 these times since it matches you with tier 10s 95 percent of the time.

Wayward_Current #7 Posted 01 January 2018 - 04:57 PM

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This MM kills purpose an practice of having tier VIII premium tanks.

 

What is worth to have premium tier VIII when more than 50% of the games is against tier X?

Yes money earning is ok, but statistics,personal one ,is plumetting.


Edited by _Poe, 01 January 2018 - 04:57 PM.


omgdontkillme #8 Posted 01 January 2018 - 06:02 PM

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View Postsir_wizington, on 01 January 2018 - 03:26 PM, said:

When you're super bottom tier its just near impossible to carry the 500wn8 tier 10 heaves.

 

That is my main problem with constantly being bottom tier. I can make most tanks work in tier 10 mm as bottom tier, but amount of terrible / bad players get being top tiers is extreme.

It wouldnt be a big deal if both teams would have equal amount of bot like players, but its very rare the case. Even if you manage to carry the game, its not a guarantee to win a match in tier 10 mm as tier 8. It can become very frustrating very quickly.



Knight_Zao #9 Posted 01 January 2018 - 06:15 PM

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Tier 8 MM seems ok when playing solo but playing in platoons is a nightmare - always bottom, literally always!!

Also i got the Type 59 from the boxes but with the pref MM is diabolic!! Always tier 9 games with no tier 7 tanks in sight, which means the type is currently unplayable.

 

My personal solution to this is quite simple, i have 12 tier 8s, and only 2 are playable in current MM and that is M41 90Gf and strv S1.



nightfoxy #10 Posted 01 January 2018 - 06:23 PM

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play t8 with pmm, solved.

PauI #11 Posted 01 January 2018 - 06:25 PM

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As long as the players purchase tier 8 prems that means they are allright with the current tier 8 mm....so there is no reason for wg to change anything. Have fun with the "improved mm"

omgdontkillme #12 Posted 01 January 2018 - 06:29 PM

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View PostKnight_Zao, on 01 January 2018 - 06:15 PM, said:

Tier 8 MM seems ok when playing solo but playing in platoons is a nightmare - always bottom, literally always!!

Also i got the Type 59 from the boxes but with the pref MM is diabolic!! Always tier 9 games with no tier 7 tanks in sight, which means the type is currently unplayable.

 

My personal solution to this is quite simple, i have 12 tier 8s, and only 2 are playable in current MM and that is M41 90Gf and strv S1.

 

Not true, solo you get almost always bottom tier. Top tier games move around 5% of all matches you play on that tier.

Ziurawka #13 Posted 01 January 2018 - 06:31 PM

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View PostKnight_Zao, on 01 January 2018 - 06:15 PM, said:

Tier 8 MM seems ok when playing solo but playing in platoons is a nightmare - always bottom, literally always!!

Also i got the Type 59 from the boxes but with the pref MM is diabolic!! Always tier 9 games with no tier 7 tanks in sight, which means the type is currently unplayable.

 

My personal solution to this is quite simple, i have 12 tier 8s, and only 2 are playable in current MM and that is M41 90Gf and strv S1.

 

Totally disagree, I got one myself from the boxes and it's the only tier VIII I'm going to play until something dramatically changes in the matchmaker. 

Sure I see tier IX most of the time in it, but the tank is still valid at tier IX - there are very few tanks you're actually helpless against in a tier IX game. 

When driving any other tier VIII you get into tier X matches about half of the time. Good luck penetrating the perfectly balanced tier X machines in the bloody corridors you are stuffed into most of the time. 

Good luck utilizing your view range advantage (which you won't have) or playing a support role (when all you can do is detrack most of the time). 

 

PMM tanks became a bit more demanding with the new MM as you constantly face higher tier enemies, but in general they're all still playable and can be useful when bottom tier. 

All of my tier VIII became borderline unplayable. That's for me ofc, maybe someone is ok with having little to no influence in 50% of his/her games and roflstomping everyone in 25% of them in his patriot, defender, VK 100 etc. 

 


Edited by Ziurawka, 01 January 2018 - 06:35 PM.


sir_wizington #14 Posted 01 January 2018 - 06:51 PM

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Just had a game in the charioteer, bottom tier did 6k combined and ran out of ammo. Meanwhile our top tank crabvwagon managed to fire 15 shells and do 570 dmg. Its like this every game...

_Flagada_Jones_ #15 Posted 01 January 2018 - 07:02 PM

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I can't understand why WG don't make a simply: all same tier battle.

Seriously there is enough player for that, and if during night, their is less, switch the MM when the server got not enough players: +1 and +2 if really not enough.


But you know t8 forced "press button 2" make more cash for WG, why will they change this?





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