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MegaDeltaFighter #1 Posted 02 January 2018 - 03:53 PM

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I guessed I would like to have TVP50/51 besides other tier Xs I already have, thought it worth the effort.

as I am approaching I began to have a survey on the tanks in the path  and got to this TVP VTU.

I ran some comparisons and came to this conclusion that the tank can be considered as the worst Tier8

medium tank  in the game and seems, its not an easy task to get over 150K XP with it to got to next step.

now this is a question from those who actually gone this pass, is TVP VTU really as bad as it seems? 



qpranger #2 Posted 02 January 2018 - 03:55 PM

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It is amazing if you know what you are doing.

imperiumgraecum #3 Posted 02 January 2018 - 03:55 PM

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No, it's worse

Edited by imperiumgraecum, 02 January 2018 - 03:55 PM.


HM_Kaiser #4 Posted 02 January 2018 - 03:59 PM

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With the current MM, yes. I'm used to paper tanks, I really tried this one, and finally free XP'ed it. It was abolutely zero fun playing with that.

HundeWurst #5 Posted 02 January 2018 - 04:00 PM

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Well without this gem of a tank the Obj. 252U Defender would have free reign and that we cannot allow.

 

Who other than this POS is going to challenge the Defender? I always feel warm and save when I spawn in the team with the TVO VTU and the enemies get a Defender. I instantly know that I will win this game.


Edited by WunderWurst, 02 January 2018 - 04:10 PM.


JocMeister #6 Posted 02 January 2018 - 04:05 PM

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IMO, Its not a good tank. But its not much worse than some other T8 MTs...



steview162 #7 Posted 02 January 2018 - 04:12 PM

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No armour, but slow. An apparently good gun, that lives under a bridge. Dire tank.

Balc0ra #8 Posted 02 January 2018 - 04:19 PM

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Def one of the worst tier 8's I've played. I played mine with the stock turret and the 88. That -8 gun depression made all the difference. It's basically the tier 6 premium two tiers up. So you are not gonna bounce anything regardless. Nor will you out dpm anything with any setup. So ridge line support was the only way to go.

Strappster #9 Posted 02 January 2018 - 04:25 PM

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It's not great. I ended up playing it with the top turret and 105mm gun, mainly to give me something to look for in it. The "big" alpha is better than many tier 8 mediums but it's the size of a house and you won't bounce much off its flat armour. You'll want to save some of your free xp for tier 9 though, the stock gun on that isn't anything to shout about either. I ended up grinding 50k xp with a full Dinger load-out just to score some damage in each battle.

Boom_Boom_Joe #10 Posted 02 January 2018 - 04:25 PM

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Yes. it is bad. It would be playable with small gun handling buff or speed buff (inc, turret traverse). Something to compensate Zeppelin-like hull structure (size & thickness).

 

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arthurwellsley #11 Posted 02 January 2018 - 04:30 PM

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What the devs say about the TVPs ability to be a nemesis for Defender's

https://www.facebook...59422905185377/



Bennie182 #12 Posted 02 January 2018 - 04:32 PM

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I did ok in it, but the gun handling was the biggest issue for me. I ran it, just like Balc0ra with stock turret and the 8. to make up for worse view range I went for optics, rammer and GLD. it just has nothing that stands out... even the Pershing, being an all-rounder has at least some turret armor.

RamRaid90 #13 Posted 02 January 2018 - 04:35 PM

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TVP VTU is overpowered. Maus and Type 5 fear the wrath of it, Defenders have nightmares about it. I heard even Chuck Norris wet his pants just thinking about them...

 

On to the serious talk...It's f***king dreadful. Not the worst tier VIII by far (that title has to stay with the T-34-2) but certainly in the bottom 2.


Edited by RamRaid90, 02 January 2018 - 04:37 PM.


suvicze #14 Posted 02 January 2018 - 06:10 PM

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It is actually not that bad but it will depend on the loadout I guess. I am using 8,8 with stock turret for -8 gun dep and the gun handling is actually very decent, the low aim time helps it a lot too. But I have good 4+ skill crew and running food so it might be different for others.

From all the hate it gets I expected completely unplayable piece of crap but while not great in any sense it is perfectly playable if you are cautious and dont lose hp at the beginning needlessly, know the proper spots and actually use your brain unlike 50% of the playerbase...

 

To be honest I have more fun playing this than vk100.01p, I bought with discount from christmass event, because unlike the vk it actually has the speed and mobility to be where it needs to be to make the difference. In vk I often find myself doing pretty much nothing even as top tier because the enemy or my team is so bad that they manage to die before I even get there and that's uterly boring.



Mimos_A #15 Posted 02 January 2018 - 10:19 PM

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It's awful. It's a fat turd that can't bounce anything, isn't mobile and doesn't have a good enough gun to make up for being so bad at everything else.

apaleytos #16 Posted 02 January 2018 - 11:19 PM

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Defender Slayer BTW   

 
 

 



qpranger #17 Posted 02 January 2018 - 11:21 PM

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View PostMimos_A, on 02 January 2018 - 11:19 PM, said:

It's awful. It's a fat turd that can't bounce anything, isn't mobile and doesn't have a good enough gun to make up for being so bad at everything else.

 

git gud

Mimos_A #18 Posted 02 January 2018 - 11:30 PM

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View Postqpranger, on 02 January 2018 - 11:21 PM, said:

 

git gud

I'll try, my passionate love for being a failure might get in the way though.



tank276 #19 Posted 02 January 2018 - 11:50 PM

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View PostMegaDeltaFighter, on 02 January 2018 - 02:53 PM, said:

I guessed I would like to have TVP50/51 besides other tier Xs I already have, thought it worth the effort.

as I am approaching I began to have a survey on the tanks in the path  and got to this TVP VTU.

I ran some comparisons and came to this conclusion that the tank can be considered as the worst Tier8

medium tank  in the game and seems, its not an easy task to get over 150K XP with it to got to next step.

now this is a question from those who actually gone this pass, is TVP VTU really as bad as it seems? 

 

You could certainly not call it a good tier 8 medium.

The problem with this line is that it starts to shine after you make the Skoda t50 elite with the great autoloader.

Up till then, the czech line is a struggle to grind.



suvicze #20 Posted 03 January 2018 - 12:16 AM

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View Posttank276, on 02 January 2018 - 11:50 PM, said:

 

You could certainly not call it a good tier 8 medium.

The problem with this line is that it starts to shine after you make the Skoda t50 elite with the great autoloader.

Up till then, the czech line is a struggle to grind.

 

Not really, T-25 is an awesome little autoloader. Fast, not that big and accurate gun with nice burst. T 24 wasnt that bad either the only problem I had with that tank was that german T 25 (T5 prem) exists which is pretty similar but with like 150 more hp, so cant win against it 1v1 unless you score 2 hits first. T-34/100, while not great, is still very decent at that tier and has great penetration on gun for a medium. Only panther and T20 can rival it and have better (apcr) prem ammo.

T8 is a stinker in that line no doubt, it just doesnt have anything special going for it. T9 is awesome but as pretty much any T9 tank you need like 120k+ free xp to actually make it T9 tank, T10 is also great.

So considering the line from T5 up pretty much only T8 is the bad one but still playable at least for me. Only other problem is that T7 and 8 require extra crew member.






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