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Sacalu_Pufi #1 Posted 03 January 2018 - 05:39 PM

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Is sow weak even when is angled

shousee #2 Posted 03 January 2018 - 05:43 PM

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No, they wont because cyka its not a russian or german or chineese heavy

Hammerhead20 #3 Posted 03 January 2018 - 05:51 PM

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I've never knew that we can actually "angle" tank cupola's...:amazed:

fighting_falcon93 #4 Posted 03 January 2018 - 05:53 PM

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Yes, I agree. It should get the same armor as the E3's cupola, and to compensate they can make the LFP a bit less troll.

brumbarr #5 Posted 03 January 2018 - 05:56 PM

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View Postfighting_falcon93, on 03 January 2018 - 05:53 PM, said:

Yes, I agree. It should get the same armor as the E3's cupola, and to compensate they can make the LFP a bit less troll.

 

Then just remove the cupola. Way less confusing and annoying.

 

But we have been over this in a couple of threads OP. I will sum up my thoughts:

 

-half the size of the cupola to patton size

-reduce cupola armor to 200.

-buff speed to 40

-buff dpm to 2600



Balc0ra #6 Posted 03 January 2018 - 05:56 PM

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View PostHammerhead20, on 03 January 2018 - 05:51 PM, said:

I've never knew that we can actually "angle" tank cupola's...:amazed:

 

Well to be fair, it's more an MG turret then a cupola. So it's not perfectly circular object like most cupolas are. So from some stock guns you can angle it to get 200+ effective vs 140.

 

View Postfighting_falcon93, on 03 January 2018 - 05:53 PM, said:

Yes, I agree. It should get the same armor as the E3's cupola, and to compensate they can make the LFP a bit less troll.

 

That's actually more then it had pre nerf iirc. But reducing the size of it would be better tbh vs buffing it.. again. Like they did with the Patton.

 

Edited by Balc0ra, 03 January 2018 - 05:59 PM.


soul3ater #7 Posted 03 January 2018 - 06:02 PM

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The tank has fallen off since the introduction of all these new tier 10 heavies, WZ and SC for example.

 

maybe give it the same treatment as the patton and see what happens.



vasilinhorulezz #8 Posted 03 January 2018 - 06:38 PM

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T100E5 driver

After HD model:

"Boo Hoo Hoo, everyone shoots Gold at my cupola"

After armor nerf:

"Boo Hoo Hoo, now everyone can pen me with standard ammo".



Dammonar #9 Posted 03 January 2018 - 06:42 PM

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View Postbrumbarr, on 03 January 2018 - 05:56 PM, said:

 

Then just remove the cupola. Way less confusing and annoying.

 

But we have been over this in a couple of threads OP. I will sum up my thoughts:

 

-half the size of the cupola to patton size

-reduce cupola armor to 200.

-buff speed to 40

-buff dpm to 2600

 

this, and drive spocket armor so i can sidescrape again

brumbarr #10 Posted 03 January 2018 - 06:59 PM

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View PostDammonar, on 03 January 2018 - 06:42 PM, said:

 

this, and drive spocket armor so i can sidescrape again

 

That armor was a very small patch and basicly has no influence on the tanks armor, it was just retarded that when you shot in straight side on you had 254mm of armor to go trough.

It in now way affects sidescraping.



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Needs a bit of a Patton / Tort job and making smaller, still a weak spot but less of a barn door.

JocMeister #12 Posted 04 January 2018 - 12:14 PM

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Something has to be done to the cupola. What Brumbarr suggests sounds resonable. Maybe make the lower plate a bit less troll to PEN to compensate. 

fanta_freake #13 Posted 04 January 2018 - 12:59 PM

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E5 dosnt need any buff. No more power creep. Its good as it is (maybe too good?). Leave it there.

suvicze #14 Posted 04 January 2018 - 01:07 PM

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Well making the cupola much smaller and improve other stats of the tank sounds pretty reasonable. I definitely wouldnt touch the lower plate. Maybe even buffed it.. It is huge and it has like 200mm effective armor head on lol. Not the tank's problem that people are stupid and shoot the sides which can occasionaly bounce something because of the shape, otherwise it is still weak enough that T8 tanks can pen it with standard ammo with a bit of luck.

All in all something definitely needs to be done about this tank. Back in the day you could justify the armor nerf because it had things like dpm, gun handling, gun depression and mobility over other heavy tanks but these days it is pretty much average(at best) at everything.

 

While it would be nice to not add to powercreep. The simple fact is that there is basically zero chance that WG will nerf the current powercreep like maus, type5, wz 5a, 907 or even SQ so buffing the old tanks to new powercreep level so they are balanced is the only way to make the tank viable.

 



Mentlgen #15 Posted 04 January 2018 - 01:17 PM

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For some reaosn whenever i shoot that cupola i have a feeling that 2/3 of shot just don't do any damage. Such weakspot :sceptic:  

HundeWurst #16 Posted 04 January 2018 - 01:35 PM

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Angling a cupola? That is even new for me.

 

View Postbrumbarr, on 03 January 2018 - 05:56 PM, said:

View Postfighting_falcon93, on 03 January 2018 - 05:53 PM, said:

Yes, I agree. It should get the same armor as the E3's cupola, and to compensate they can make the LFP a bit less troll.

 

Then just remove the cupola. Way less confusing and annoying.

 

But we have been over this in a couple of threads OP. I will sum up my thoughts:

 

-half the size of the cupola to patton size

-reduce cupola armor to 200.

-buff speed to 40

-buff dpm to 2600

 

And where is the point of the Patton after such a buff? Or even where would be the point of any tier 10 medium after such a buff???

 

No A lot of armor needs to be backscaled. Starting with the SuperConquqeors armor and followed by many other tanks.


Edited by WunderWurst, 04 January 2018 - 01:37 PM.


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View PostWunderWurst, on 04 January 2018 - 01:35 PM, said:

Angling a cupola? That is even new for me.

 

 

And where is the point of the Patton after such a buff? Or even where would be the point of any tier 10 medium after such a buff???

 

No A lot of armor needs to be backscaled. Starting with the SuperConquqeors armor and followed by many other tanks.

 

Agree, IMO E5 problem is pure powercreep. Just changing the range finder on the SC turret from spaced to primary armour, undo the last IS-7 buff and softening WZ5A cupolas would help a lot.

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View PostWunderWurst, on 04 January 2018 - 01:35 PM, said:

Angling a cupola? That is even new for me.

 

 

And where is the point of the Patton after such a buff? Or even where would be the point of any tier 10 medium after such a buff???

 

No A lot of armor needs to be backscaled. Starting with the SuperConquqeors armor and followed by many other tanks.

 

patton is still faster and has much better dpm and gun handling.

Dammonar #19 Posted 04 January 2018 - 07:08 PM

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I miss 6 E5 8 140 1 bat lineups.  Worst thing is that even if they didnt nerf cupola i'd still be obsolete, however it lasted like 4 years.

pouriya77 #20 Posted 12 January 2018 - 07:15 AM

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Hi and happy new year. The T110E5 did not have an "eggshell" style frontal plate, it had a flat one
please remake it.it is only my request.Please take part in my topic in http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/658573-remodel-t110e5-flat-armor/page__hl__%2Bt110e5__fromsearch__1

Edited by pouriya77, 17 January 2018 - 05:48 AM.






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