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Metaner #1 Posted 03 January 2018 - 10:23 PM

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why is this beast left in game, and everybody are now playing with it

and for example wte100 was removed



xx984 #2 Posted 03 January 2018 - 10:26 PM

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who cares. FV4005 is the better tank now and still in tech tree

Balc0ra #3 Posted 03 January 2018 - 10:36 PM

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View PostMetaner, on 03 January 2018 - 10:23 PM, said:

why is this beast left in game, and everybody are now playing with it

and for example wte100 was removed

 

WT auf E100 was not as situational and was to broken to stay. A full gold clip with the 15cm gun would do 3K damage regardless, or 3360 pre nerf with the 12.8 cm gun. That's one Maus gone in less then 8 seconds. 183 with full gold will do anything from 300 to 1750. If the 183 was to broken, they would not allow it to stay, or they would nerf it before the change.

 

Everyone is playing it as it's top of the tree, and it's a crew trainer now. So the crew xp bonus from both is rather good in it atm.



RamRaid90 #4 Posted 03 January 2018 - 10:41 PM

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Why has it taken you almost a month to find yourway to the forums to complain about a tank that is played by the vast majoirty of WoTs most useless players atm.

 

Anyone with brains doesn't play it, because it's crap.

 

Those without brains think that doing 1 shot of 1,000+ damage every 20 games is "fun" and therefore spam play it.

 

No problem with them ever.


Edited by RamRaid90, 03 January 2018 - 10:42 PM.


Derethim #5 Posted 03 January 2018 - 11:13 PM

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It's pretty bad, honestly. Haven't played it but I kill these a lot. You fire one 700 damage shell and you're reloading, ok?

And now you have a pretty slow tank, that reloads for 30 seconds and has a pretty meh armor.

RiP 183.

 

The only reason people do well in this, is if they're good bluffers and use the "KV-2 syndrome" and pretend to peek a corner when reloading.



AvengerOrion #6 Posted 03 January 2018 - 11:36 PM

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View PostMetaner, on 03 January 2018 - 10:23 PM, said:

why is this beast left in game, and everybody are now playing with it

and for example wte100 was removed

 

WTF E100 was capable of killing any tank in the game in 8 seconds.

GL doing that with a 183.

So please try again, your first attempt did not even come close to winning a price.



WindSplitter1 #7 Posted 04 January 2018 - 12:22 AM

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View PostRamRaid90, on 03 January 2018 - 09:41 PM, said:

Those without brains think that doing 1 shot of 1,000+ damage every 20 games is "fun" and therefore spam play it.

 

No problem with them ever.

 

IS-7 full HP ammo racks with AP ammo ftw

Chull #8 Posted 04 January 2018 - 12:40 AM

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calm down OP its still TotT so you get personal reserves for playing it

AvengerOrion #9 Posted 04 January 2018 - 01:03 AM

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View PostWindSplitter1, on 04 January 2018 - 12:22 AM, said:

 

IS-7 full HP ammo racks with AP ammo ftw

 

Please tell me, how many players do you know that grinded the 183 to 1-shot IS-7s with AP?

Btw, FV4005 Stage II and Jpz E100 can still do it if that is what you are grinding for.


Edited by AvengerOrion, 04 January 2018 - 01:04 AM.


Baldrickk #10 Posted 04 January 2018 - 01:24 AM

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Also, the 183 was a real project.  WTaufE100 wasn't

WindSplitter1 #11 Posted 04 January 2018 - 01:24 AM

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View PostAvengerOrion, on 04 January 2018 - 12:03 AM, said:

Please tell me, how many players do you know that grinded the 183 to 1-shot IS-7s with AP?

Btw, FV4005 Stage II and Jpz E100 can still do it if that is what you are grinding for.

 

Sheesh... that was just a smart-[rear armour] aside.

 

EDIT:

If I must be serious, I have one two (so no, I already have it and I don't think you can grind this any longer either) and didn't bother to play it to get the personal reserves, not worth it.

 

Unlike what people might believe, the turret isn't free of frontal weakspots (where would you shoot on an E-100's turret front? Exactly). Chassis is noticeably, and possibly unhistorically, narrower and it's armour isn't worth a damn against the vehicles it will see.

 

This is what SPGs would be like if they had HP and armour. Don't regret one bit grinding it, though. But I reckon it's good to thrash your WR% if you're a tomato like me.

 

Jageroo is far worse to put up with because, as others have stated, this thing will deal anything between 300 to "OMG! One-shot a Jagtiger!". Jageroo gives consistency..

 

On a sidenote, it's now a crew trainer. A good one at that, since the Stage II crew layout is the same, whereas you can't train the complete complement for the Badger.


Edited by WindSplitter1, 04 January 2018 - 01:35 AM.


AvengerOrion #12 Posted 04 January 2018 - 01:57 AM

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View PostWindSplitter1, on 04 January 2018 - 01:24 AM, said:

 

Sheesh... that was just a smart-[rear armour] aside.

 

EDIT:

If I must be serious, I have one two (so no, I already have it and I don't think you can grind this any longer either) and didn't bother to play it to get the personal reserves, not worth it.

 

Unlike what people might believe, the turret isn't free of frontal weakspots (where would you shoot on an E-100's turret front? Exactly). Chassis is noticeably, and possibly unhistorically, narrower and it's armour isn't worth a damn against the vehicles it will see.

 

This is what SPGs would be like if they had HP and armour. Don't regret one bit grinding it, though. But I reckon it's good to thrash your WR% if you're a tomato like me.

 

Jageroo is far worse to put up with because, as others have stated, this thing will deal anything between 300 to "OMG! One-shot a Jagtiger!". Jageroo gives consistency..

 

On a sidenote, it's now a crew trainer. A good one at that, since the Stage II crew layout is the same, whereas you can't train the complete complement for the Badger.

 

I admit that I could have written it better, but it was more or less a serious question.

Codename_Jelly #13 Posted 04 January 2018 - 02:11 AM

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View PostMetaner, on 03 January 2018 - 09:23 PM, said:

why is this beast left in game, and everybody are now playing with it

and for example wte100 was removed

 

People are probably playing with it as it can be a crew trainer and since it was TOTT you can get reserves by getting 50 wins but since I got about 20% winrate on it I gave up on getting the reserves.

Balc0ra #14 Posted 04 January 2018 - 08:04 AM

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View PostAvengerOrion, on 04 January 2018 - 01:03 AM, said:

 

Please tell me, how many players do you know that grinded the 183 to 1-shot IS-7s with AP?

Btw, FV4005 Stage II and Jpz E100 can still do it if that is what you are grinding for.

 

Even a tier 8 can do that. Then again I did ammo rack 2 IS-7 on my last 183 crew training run. But I suspect his "joke" was aimed towards the durability of the IS-7 ammo rack, not that the 183 can do it.

STLR #15 Posted 04 January 2018 - 11:25 AM

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View PostDerethim, on 03 January 2018 - 11:13 PM, said:

The only reason people do well in this, is if they're good bluffers and use the "KV-2 syndrome" and pretend to peek a corner when reloading.

 

when i rarely take it on a ride, i always trick idiots with that syndrome :)))

Derethim #16 Posted 04 January 2018 - 11:29 AM

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View PostSTLR, on 04 January 2018 - 11:25 AM, said:

 

when i rarely take it on a ride, i always trick idiots with that syndrome :)))

 

It's a contagious disease only cured by good perception/zoom out mods, that let you see further behind walls :trollface:

Edited by Derethim, 04 January 2018 - 11:29 AM.


Lord_Edge #17 Posted 04 January 2018 - 12:31 PM

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View PostDerethim, on 03 January 2018 - 11:13 PM, said:

The only reason people do well in this, is if they're good bluffers and use the "KV-2 syndrome" and pretend to peek a corner when reloading.

It is kinda lol when you're sat round a corner by yourself holding up two tanks that could easily kill you, because neither want to risk death to secure the other a kill, such teamwork, much wow.






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