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logaritmusnaturalis #1 Posted 04 January 2018 - 02:35 PM

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Do you actually think while playing? 

 

I've become better and better the less I think. I just do. Is it sexret to unicums? to not think?



Axarn #2 Posted 04 January 2018 - 02:38 PM

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Yes, do not think during game, also, most important, hug the red line and shoot gold.
I've just looked at your stats, they are off the roof. Keep up the good work m8!

clixor #3 Posted 04 January 2018 - 02:39 PM

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View Postlogaritmusnaturalis, on 04 January 2018 - 02:35 PM, said:

Do you actually think while playing? 

 

I've become better and better the less I think. I just do. Is it sexret to unicums? to not think?

 

Research shows that when you need to pee, you make better decesions. So the lesson is never go to the toilet.

ZlatanArKung #4 Posted 04 January 2018 - 02:42 PM

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View Postlogaritmusnaturalis, on 04 January 2018 - 02:35 PM, said:

Do you actually think while playing? 

 

I've become better and better the less I think. I just do. Is it sexret to unicums? to not think?

No.

I don't think.



Nice to see that the 2 first responses are completely irrelevant and off topic.
In other words, crapposts.
 

qpranger #5 Posted 04 January 2018 - 02:45 PM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 04 January 2018 - 03:43 PM, said:

Nice to see that the 2 first responses are completely irrelevant and off topic.
In other words, crapposts.

 

Whereas yours is extremely useful.

ZlatanArKung #6 Posted 04 January 2018 - 02:51 PM

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View Postqpranger, on 04 January 2018 - 02:45 PM, said:

 

Whereas yours is extremely useful.

I answered the question at hand, being a kind of player he addressed. 



brumbarr #7 Posted 04 January 2018 - 03:01 PM

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Not really, just kind of happens. Intuition.

But when I am playing badly and I know why I do try to think to prevent me to do stupid crap.

 

For example I am doing badly in the E50M and thats because I am too agressive. So I do keep in the back of my mind to think when I am about to do something aggresive.



Mimos_A #8 Posted 04 January 2018 - 03:02 PM

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You can get away with thinking less when you're more experienced, know the maps well and know the tanks well. As a new player who wants to improve, think as much as you can.

SuperDuperOtter #9 Posted 04 January 2018 - 03:04 PM

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View Postlogaritmusnaturalis, on 04 January 2018 - 01:35 PM, said:

Do you actually think while playing? 

 

I've become better and better the less I think. I just do. Is it sexret to unicums? to not think?

 

Same as any skill based task. To be good you aim at thinking about what you should do, but not how you should do it.

Uebergewicht #10 Posted 04 January 2018 - 03:06 PM

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Not sure if I count as really good, but yeah, the I need to think to do well in this game. I need to consider my position, what the enemy has and where he is likely to come from, where my team is etc. to do my best. When I go brain-afk I usually get punished.

Finer_Details #11 Posted 04 January 2018 - 03:06 PM

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Once you repeat the same things over and over again, you start developing patterns and it all just comes naturally.

Unknown_Lifeform #12 Posted 04 January 2018 - 03:06 PM

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When I'm playing badly I'm generally doing a lot of conscious thinking, its one of the signs I'm tilted. I keep over thinking everything and doing a lot of pre-game planning (I'm going to focus on my situational awareness blah blah blah) in a desperate effort to try and fix what is going wrong. When I actually play at my best my subconscious takes over and its pretty effortless. I'm in the zone and totally focused on the now and just naturally make all the correct decisions without trying. Which isn't the same thing as when I'm playing instinctively, when I also suck and I'm just generally rinsing and repeating what I usually do on that map without thinking about the actual situation.

 

Sadly, sessions where its all effortless are few and far between for me and I'm mostly trapped in the over-thinking stage.



HundeWurst #13 Posted 04 January 2018 - 03:07 PM

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Headbanging the keyboard is the road to to success.

 

And yes a bit of thinking is involved but not all that much to be honest. Once you know what you are doing there is not much thinking involved any more just doing.



jack_timber #14 Posted 04 January 2018 - 03:11 PM

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Yes, tried it once but after a short while my head started to hurt so never bothered since. If your suggestions of not thinking and getting better then my stats should be way up there with the best but alas no.

But on a more serious note....

Reckon most think about the game trouble is it's a bit like  coming to a fork in the road, do I turn left or right?

Or to cap or not to cap, to camp or not to camp and so on and forth.

Years ago I used to be indecisive now I find I just can't make my mind up:)

 

 



Enforcer1975 #15 Posted 04 January 2018 - 03:16 PM

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Yeah i can see that not thinking while playing has a huge impact...try not breathing. It's way more effective because it keeps your braincells from oxidizing.

 

btt: i usually just do this...works for me.


Edited by Enforcer1975, 04 January 2018 - 03:18 PM.


Dammonar #16 Posted 04 January 2018 - 03:24 PM

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Forum trolls are getting boring and tiring, wdj and TDU you must take special pride in what you are doing thats great but please consider that it ruins any creative discussion..  To answer the previous, how much I think depends on the map and the mm, every map and tank player combo unlocks different possibilities, while there are some combos that do not unlock any ( paris with red team and bad tanks vs blue team with wz). 

Aikl #17 Posted 04 January 2018 - 03:46 PM

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Define 'really good' and 'thinking'. Few players, yours truly included, can claim to be a consistent force to be reckoned with, despite having stats in the top 10%.

Thinking... doesn't feel like that, but it helps to be fairly concentrated regardless. The primary mindset is not wasting your tank for nothing.

qpranger #18 Posted 04 January 2018 - 03:51 PM

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Thinking is just one side of the coin.

You need to combine it with rapid reactions,

and that becomes an issue as you get older. 

You can analyse the situation on the battlefield expertly, 

only to be outplayed by the opponent that pulled the trigger one eyeblink faster than you.



Keyhand #19 Posted 04 January 2018 - 04:41 PM

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In my opinion, the thinking is not as important as the decisionmaking.

To make the right decisions, you need experience more than intelligence and situational awareness (a skill that can be learned, if I may say so) more than in-depth understanding of tactics.

 

Edit: talking about randoms here.


Edited by Keyhand, 04 January 2018 - 04:41 PM.


brumbarr #20 Posted 04 January 2018 - 04:46 PM

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View PostKeyhand, on 04 January 2018 - 04:41 PM, said:

In my opinion, the thinking is not as important as the decisionmaking.

To make the right decisions, you need experience more than intelligence and situational awareness (a skill that can be learned, if I may say so) more than in-depth understanding of tactics.

 

Edit: talking about randoms here.

 

And experience is basicly intuition. 

About the original question:

Its not that when I need to make a descission is think in my head: 'this has this advantag and that disadvantage, but the other things has that and that, what would be the best choice based on the current  knowledge?' . 

When  most good players need to make a descission they just go like: ' lets go do that right now'. They have seen the situation and based on situations before their intuition  tells them the next move. No thinking.






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