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shousee #1 Posted 04 January 2018 - 10:30 PM

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How good of a step up is T-54 over T-44, I have 100kexp atm on my T-44 and I am wondering how much better T-54 is. Turret on T-44 is rather trash even tho I bounced JGE100 somehow. Cant wait to get a proper medium :)

Strizi #2 Posted 04 January 2018 - 10:44 PM

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It is bad, you should stop the russian mediums asap and grind the Leopard line because that tank would be op if they buffed it!

ZlatanArKung #3 Posted 04 January 2018 - 10:52 PM

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T54 is better, like much better.

RaptorAbt #4 Posted 05 January 2018 - 12:35 AM

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View Postshousee, on 04 January 2018 - 09:30 PM, said:

How good of a step up is T-54 over T-44, I have 100kexp atm on my T-44 and I am wondering how much better T-54 is. Turret on T-44 is rather trash even tho I bounced JGE100 somehow. Cant wait to get a proper medium :)

 

​The T-43 & T-44 grind was very "painful" for me, but the T-54 is much better (circa 121k XP)!  Just got to decide which way I progress T62a or Obj 140.   Also seen info that T-44 is in SuperTest with a few positive changes, may have to re-buy it and give it another go!

TankkiPoju #5 Posted 05 January 2018 - 07:11 AM

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T-44 is also getting buffed in near future, at least that's the current WG's plan. It looks like it's a megabuff, actually.

 

https://thearmoredpa...t-44-changes-2/


Edited by TankkiPoju, 05 January 2018 - 07:11 AM.


JocMeister #6 Posted 05 January 2018 - 07:20 AM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 05 January 2018 - 07:11 AM, said:

T-44 is also getting buffed in near future, at least that's the current WG's plan. It looks like it's a megabuff, actually.

 

https://thearmoredpa...t-44-changes-2/

 

Sounds like a good idea to hold off my 3-mark grind then. That is some nice buffs! 

 

To the OP. The T-54 is miles better than the T-44. This is true for all tier 9s... Overall tier 8 MTs are probably the weakest in the game and the new MM just slaughtered already very weak tanks. 



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View Postshousee, on 04 January 2018 - 10:30 PM, said:

How good of a step up is T-54 over T-44, I have 100kexp atm on my T-44 and I am wondering how much better T-54 is. Turret on T-44 is rather trash even tho I bounced JGE100 somehow. Cant wait to get a proper medium :)

 

Feels like switching from a fiesta to a Porsche made of Stalinium - mustache alloy. :girl:

TankkiPoju #8 Posted 05 January 2018 - 09:03 AM

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View PostJocMeister, on 05 January 2018 - 07:20 AM, said:

 

Sounds like a good idea to hold off my 3-mark grind then. That is some nice buffs! 

 

With those buffs, 3rd marking should be a LOT easier once the patch hits :) Just do it before the MoE requirements go up!

 

I agree currently T-54 is just miles above T-44.


Edited by TankkiPoju, 05 January 2018 - 09:04 AM.


Strizi #9 Posted 05 January 2018 - 11:14 AM

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Another stupid and unnecessary buff for russian tanks but i am not expecting anything else from wargaming. This company has completely lost its sence for game balance.

Bennie182 #10 Posted 05 January 2018 - 11:18 AM

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I don't see ANY reason for this buff. I haven't played it since they already buffed it, but play the T-44-100 a lot, which is similar. T-44 does NOT need a buff.

Iscoed1815 #11 Posted 05 January 2018 - 11:24 AM

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I have the T54, but I came through the light line, it's enjoyable, and a decent gun and turret armour, just wish I could stop playing it as a light though.

KillingJoker #12 Posted 05 January 2018 - 11:59 AM

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The T44 is an ok tier 8 medium... wich was buffed previously

 

the T54 is a tier IX medium, but it have better turret armor, than the obj 430 (tier X russian medium), and its gameplay feels as strong, as the T62A or the obj 140

 

the only noticeble difference between the T54 and the tier X's is the DPM and the penetration on the default ammunition is better, other than that...

it feels like playing a tier X medium, there is nothing you cant do with the T54, even if you need to punish frontaly a Tier X super heavy, you can do it...

because you will have the same 330mm of heat rounds the russian tier X's have, there isnt nothing you cant do with the T54.

 

And you can meet tier 7's on it... imagine the 3-5-7mm with the T54 as top tier... wanna see what happens?? 

Notice, i am only an average T54 player, and i can do this in the T54 when i am top tier... 

 

 http://wotreplays.eu...e/4037761#stats

 

can you do the same on a T44? obviously not, just go check to wotreplays, you wont find T44 replays that dominate this much, and keep in mind...

this is just me playing, there are other players who are way more consistent and display  even more damage than i do more often...

 

 

 


Edited by KillingJoker, 05 January 2018 - 12:03 PM.


JocMeister #13 Posted 05 January 2018 - 12:06 PM

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View PostBennie182, on 05 January 2018 - 11:18 AM, said:

I don't see ANY reason for this buff. I haven't played it since they already buffed it, but play the T-44-100 a lot, which is similar. T-44 does NOT need a buff.

 

And what do you base that on? Is the T-44 statistically over performing? Do enlighten us. 



fanta_freake #14 Posted 05 January 2018 - 12:15 PM

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T-44 was a funny tank for me. (3 marks). Nice mobility and "okay" gun.

T-54 is epic. (3 marks.) Epic mobility, low profile and insane gun. 

If you love or hate T-44 you will love T-54.



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T-44 is IMHO probably the worst tier 8 medium, even after the previous buffs, its just bad.

 

T-54 grind is painful, and the illustration of tier 9 grinds, but with the top guns its just a sweet tank, a bit like in all tier 9 med tanks.



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View PostKillingJoker, on 05 January 2018 - 10:59 AM, said:

The T44 is an ok tier 8 medium... wich was buffed previously

 

the T54 is a tier IX medium, but it have better turret armor, than the obj 430 (tier X russian medium), and its gameplay feels as strong, as the T62A or the obj 140

 

the only noticeble difference between the T54 and the tier X's is the DPM and the penetration on the default ammunition is better, other than that...

it feels like playing a tier X medium, there is nothing you cant do with the T54, even if you need to punish frontaly a Tier X super heavy, you can do it...

because you will have the same 330mm of heat rounds the russian tier X's have, there isnt nothing you cant do with the T54.

 

And you can meet tier 7's on it... imagine the 3-5-7mm with the T54 as top tier... wanna see what happens?? 

Notice, i am only an average T54 player, and i can do this in the T54 when i am top tier... 

 

 http://wotreplays.eu...e/4037761#stats

 

can you do the same on a T44? obviously not, just go check to wotreplays, you wont find T44 replays that dominate this much, and keep in mind...

this is just me playing, there are other players who are way more consistent and display  even more damage than i do more often...

 

 

 

 

Awesome replay - nicely done! Shame you burned down at the end, otherwise a perfect game :)

UserZer00 #17 Posted 05 January 2018 - 12:39 PM

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I have to confirm the topic I'm looking at before replying!

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eldrak #18 Posted 05 January 2018 - 01:12 PM

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T-44 seems pretty close to balanced

T-44

 

T-44-100 though is slightly too strong but not enough to need attention

 T-44-100

 

T-44 is better than STA-1, Indien, Panther2, TVP VTU and T34-2. The only med that's better is the Pershing of the comparable tech tree ones.



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The T-44 is a good tier 8, the armour used to be really meh, but since they buffed it it's pretty good. The T-54 I personally didn't like that much, but it's an upgrade in pretty much every way. Both of them have good armour but always remember you're a med, so you can just sit around and bounce stuff, you just get saved by your armoured quite regularly when poking. With the T-54 carry tons of HEAT. The "brawl" gun doesn't have the accuracy to reliably hit weak spots and the standard pen is just bad. Since they changed the guns the two top guns both have their own merits, so it might be worth seeing if you can try them on the test server to see which one you prefer. One has the accuracy and a bit more pen, the other is more of a close range brawler gun with the better reload.

 

I currently prefer the AMX30 over the T-54, but the T-34, T-44, T-54, Obj 140/T62-a line is definitely worth playing.


Edited by Mimos_A, 05 January 2018 - 01:46 PM.


shousee #20 Posted 05 January 2018 - 02:17 PM

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That buff looks good, I actualy did not mind the grind to T-44, Almost 3MoE T-43, got stuck at 92% and. Stock T-44 is very painfull to grind that is true but entire tech tree is pretty ok imo.




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