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st3rploxage #1 Posted 07 January 2018 - 09:20 PM

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I don't care what everybody is going to say about this, in the last 2 weeks i have only been shot at by tanks that are higher or equal tiered but they are only shooting unnecessary premium ammo because they just can't play the game.... either remove premium ammo completly or give penalty's of some sort to players who are pure and only shooting premium ammo.

The game just gets ruined by people like this and it is just disgusting....



SuedKAT #2 Posted 07 January 2018 - 09:25 PM

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If it's unnecessary why bother about it, since if it's unnecessary you'd be penned regardless and the only result is a higher ammunition bill for the ones that shoot at you. Premium ammo ain't the problem, it's game balance in general and the removal of weakspots, fix game balance and people will stop loading premium ammo as their first choice.

 



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View Postst3rploxage, on 07 January 2018 - 09:20 PM, said:

because they just can't play the game.... 

 

And you can?



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View Postst3rploxage, on 07 January 2018 - 08:20 PM, said:

I don't care what everybody is going to say about this, in the last 2 weeks i have only been shot at by tanks that are higher or equal tiered but they are only shooting unnecessary premium ammo because they just can't play the game.... either remove premium ammo completly or give penalty's of some sort to players who are pure and only shooting premium ammo.

The game just gets ruined by people like this and it is just disgusting....

 

Gold ammo is not a problem and is just as effective as standard according to WG: "overall percentage of standard ammo penetrations and the premium ammo penetrations differ only by decimals, meaning that almost the same percentage of shots bounce no matter if you have standard or premium ammo loaded in your gun."

 

So in essence there is no issue and you are just imagining it...right? Just buy TVP and own all of those defenders and then take a glimpse at HD rock and move on to borderline OP Leopard1 and make all Type5s your bitches as they struggle with that hard to play tonk. 



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View Postst3rploxage, on 07 January 2018 - 08:20 PM, said:

I don't care what everybody is going to say about this.

You won't mind if we don't care what you say then.



brumbarr #6 Posted 07 January 2018 - 09:46 PM

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If its unnecessary, why does it matter they are shootign it and how is it ruining your game?

lord_chipmonk #7 Posted 07 January 2018 - 09:47 PM

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That is bunkum. It could also mean that people generally use gold ammo for tougher targets. 



STRAPATONI #8 Posted 07 January 2018 - 09:50 PM

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i can, just give me the option:justwait:

250swb #9 Posted 07 January 2018 - 10:30 PM

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Remove premium ammo and a large proportion of the tanks in the game would instantly become obsolete because of the match making and armour balance. And while in the often quoted 'perfect world' you can cruise around the map and find the tank that you are matched against in practical terms this is never possible, so a tank needs the equipment to at least have a go against better armour or a higher tier.

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View Post250swb, on 07 January 2018 - 09:30 PM, said:

Remove premium ammo and a large proportion of the tanks in the game would instantly become obsolete because of the match making and armour balance. And while in the often quoted 'perfect world' you can cruise around the map and find the tank that you are matched against in practical terms this is never possible, so a tank needs the equipment to at least have a go against better armour or a higher tier.

I think he said "premium ammo" Not tanks?



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My heart goes out to poor people.:(

lord_chipmonk #12 Posted 07 January 2018 - 10:37 PM

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View Postfire2509, on 07 January 2018 - 10:32 PM, said:

I think he said "premium ammo" Not tanks?

 

But rebalancing prem. ammo while not changing any tanks is a bad plan. There needs to be a bit of both, they come hand in hand. 

Urmo345 #13 Posted 07 January 2018 - 10:39 PM

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My poor JagdTiger. Placed it hull protected and only massive armor visible. Three shells penetrated it one after another and "boom". Like a damn butter, not 250mm of  hard steel!

Capus #14 Posted 07 January 2018 - 10:43 PM

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At this point after all the armor buffs they should just remove standard AP and make premium ammo the new standard ammo. The game is fubar, and I don't see how they can fix it at this point. Imagine this game without premium ammo these days, there would simply be no point in playing anything other than type 5, maus, defender and other such tanks. They would become virtualy indestructible in this world of corridors. Also if you are driving a paper tank and someone spams premium ammo at you, just laugh at how they pointlesly waste credits.


Edited by Capus, 07 January 2018 - 10:44 PM.


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View PostCapus, on 07 January 2018 - 09:43 PM, said:

 Also if you are driving a paper tank and someone spams premium ammo at you, just laugh at how they pointlesly waste credits.

"Credits are only important if you need them, if you'd don't....spam like a ham" :- Ancient Dinger proverb.



SpartanmarkV #16 Posted 07 January 2018 - 11:19 PM

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As a former member of the Dingers clan i can tell you that they are legally obligated to only shoot premium ammo

Junglist_ #17 Posted 07 January 2018 - 11:19 PM

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View PostCapus, on 07 January 2018 - 09:43 PM, said:

At this point after all the armor buffs they should just remove standard AP and make premium ammo the new standard ammo. The game is fubar, and I don't see how they can fix it at this point. Imagine this game without premium ammo these days, there would simply be no point in playing anything other than type 5, maus, defender and other such tanks. 

Yep that's exactly how it was on one of the Sandbox iteration where there was no gold ammo (the iteration with 2 GB maps, Nebelburg and Grand Canyon) . Either super HTs or big alpha TDs spamming HE. Best gameplay ever 100% fun definitely didn't turn it off after 2 games.



Jigabachi #18 Posted 07 January 2018 - 11:24 PM

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If shooting premammo isn't necessary because they would pen you anyway... why the drama?
And if you don't care about other people's opinions... why even starting a thread?

Seriously. I have no problem with reading the umpteenth thread about well known issues. But pease, couldn't you guys just TRY to start a borderline intelligent thread, so that we could at least agree with you or somwthing?

Long story short: Elementary schools need to introduce mandatory debating clubs.

Balc0ra #19 Posted 08 January 2018 - 07:51 AM

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View Postst3rploxage, on 07 January 2018 - 09:20 PM, said:

I don't care what everybody is going to say about this, in the last 2 weeks i have only been shot at by tanks that are higher or equal tiered but they are only shooting unnecessary premium ammo because they just can't play the game.... either remove premium ammo completly or give penalty's of some sort to players who are pure and only shooting premium ammo.

The game just gets ruined by people like this and it is just disgusting....

 

Let me guess. Someone shot APRC on your lower tier paper tank? As recently the only people I have seen raging about it. Is a Borsig or a CDC getting upset that an E100 used HEAT on them. When he would have penned you either way. So why complain? And what sort of penalty? XP loss? Then I would not waste gold on the Maus to win the game for you late game. Because I get more XP if I lose with normal ammo, then if I win with gold. And more costs will only reduce it on low tier clip guns. As they cost half a mill to fill up as is.

 

Then again... you might not care what everyone says about this. But let me say it anyway. Two reasons why this won't work the way you think. The age of Super heavies, and premium tanks. One you will have to run from because you can't pen it, and it's a corridor map. The other will still use it on you. As I suspect they would not remove or change it on premium tanks. Just like premium SPG's that can still use AP and HEAT. And if tier 8 normal tanks did not have premium ammo, but tier 8 premiums did. Just imagine how fun that tier would be to play then for your normal tanks.


Edited by Balc0ra, 08 January 2018 - 07:52 AM.


Deztro #20 Posted 08 January 2018 - 08:17 AM

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Just a few thoughts/solutions about premium ammo I thought about and leave it here:
- Since there are two camps (gold-ammo-lovers and gold ammo-haters);make a new server EU3 without prem ammo so the user can decide for himself which way to play
- make gold ammo work that you can only fire it at tanks a tier higher, otherwise it stalls. This way you have to think before you load a gold shell/clip instead of spamming it exclusively.
- damage done with gold ammo is excluded from total damage done, so no easy higher stats.




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