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Nameless2k #1 Posted 07 January 2018 - 10:13 PM

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just had 339 mm

???????

wtf

https://www.dropbox.....wotreplay?dl=0

 

3 types of mm

there should be same tier mm

5-10  mm

and 3-5-7 mm

 

wtf is 339

 

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MatchMaker after version 0.9.18Edit

  • After the patch 0.9.18, the matchmaker has been modified due to the introduction of the new tier IX and X light vehicles.
  • It uses a better and easier template. There are three types of matchmaker:
1.Three levels battles: This template manages to create teams with :3 Tanks at the top(top tiers), 5 at the middle and the rest are vehicles equal in tier.
2.Two levels battles: This template manages to create teams with :5 Tanks at the top(top tiers), and the rest at the bottom, featuring vehicles equal in tier.
3.One level battle: Well, you understand what it means :)

 

 


Edited by Nameless2k, 07 January 2018 - 10:57 PM.


lord_chipmonk #2 Posted 07 January 2018 - 10:17 PM

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You might need to explain what you mean a bit mate. Not currently sure what you're talking about. 

OreH75 #3 Posted 07 January 2018 - 10:19 PM

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He had a match with 3 toptiers, 3 middle and 9 bottom tiers. (3-3-9).

JCTagger #4 Posted 07 January 2018 - 10:21 PM

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I believe this is a known (if a bit unusual) Fallback, if the MM is having trouble making a 5-10 or 3-5-7...?

qpranger #5 Posted 07 January 2018 - 10:22 PM

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I get 3-3-9 MM all the time. 

3 normal players, 3 noobs and 9 total bots.



lord_chipmonk #6 Posted 07 January 2018 - 10:22 PM

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View PostOreH75, on 07 January 2018 - 10:19 PM, said:

He had a match with 3 toptiers, 3 middle and 9 bottom tiers. (3-3-9).

 

OOoooooohhhhh, thanks for that. 

 

Erm, screenshot/replay? Makes it much easier to see what's going on. 



SuedKAT #7 Posted 07 January 2018 - 10:22 PM

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You had 3 top tiers, 3 mid tiers and 9 bottom tiers, nothing strange about that, happens from time to time to time depending on what tanks that are in the cue. I'm also guessing that you had 1 or more platoons in the 9 bottom tier segment, since the match maker loves to balance platoons vs platoons like that.

lord_chipmonk #8 Posted 07 January 2018 - 10:23 PM

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View PostJCTagger, on 07 January 2018 - 10:21 PM, said:

I believe this is a known (if a bit unusual) Fallback, if the MM is having trouble making a 5-10 or 3-5-7...?

View PostSuedKAT, on 07 January 2018 - 10:22 PM, said:

You had 3 top tiers, 3 mid tiers and 9 bottom tiers, nothing strange about that, happens from time to time to time depending on what tanks that are in the cue. I'm also guessing that you had 1 or more platoons in the 9 bottom tier segment, since the match maker loves to balance platoons vs platoons like that.

 

Ah right. Not encountered it myself yet. 



Graeme0 #9 Posted 07 January 2018 - 10:25 PM

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You lucky so-and-so. Dont tell everyone or people might complain about matchmaking

SuedKAT #10 Posted 07 January 2018 - 10:25 PM

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View Postlord_chipmonk, on 07 January 2018 - 10:23 PM, said:

 

Ah right. Not encountered it myself yet. 

 

Happens more during the night and I'm guessing Sunday evenings due to a smaller player base in the cue I guess, I've seen it plenty of times and I generally play nights.

divsmo #11 Posted 07 January 2018 - 10:27 PM

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Don't see it very often but had a game last night that was 3-3-9 so does seem to happen

Aikl #12 Posted 07 January 2018 - 10:32 PM

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I believe I had a game with two top-tiers once. It happens.

 

MM has rules it can choose to ignore if creating a match within a set timeframe isn't possible. Most likely it tweaks itself depending on the queue, tier balance and time of day. A few years ago, LTs could see tanks three tier higher, and could "never" be top-tier. However, one late night my T7 Auf.Panther ended up in a match with a T71 on the other team, the rest were T6s. Simple stuff, really, the MM decided to make a "T8 battle" with no T8s in it to fit the T7 LTs into the queue. That was a ton of fun.



Nameless2k #13 Posted 07 January 2018 - 10:36 PM

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View PostSuedKAT, on 07 January 2018 - 09:25 PM, said:

 

Happens more during the night and I'm guessing Sunday evenings due to a smaller player base in the cue I guess, I've seen it plenty of times and I generally play nights.

 

1000 player queue

SuedKAT #14 Posted 07 January 2018 - 10:44 PM

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View PostNameless2k, on 07 January 2018 - 10:36 PM, said:

 

1000 player queue

 

Yeah that's not very much if you spread them out over 10 different tiers and included rules for a maximum amount of arty, crap platoon MM and so on.

Shizuthink #15 Posted 07 January 2018 - 11:23 PM

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Iirc mm makes three tier battles so that there are at most 3 top tiers, at most 5 middle tiers and at least 7 bottom tiers. I've seen matches with only 2 top tier tanks for example.

eldrak #16 Posted 08 January 2018 - 01:22 PM

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Yup, the 3/5 in 3/5/7 and the 5 in 5/10 are only max limits.

I imagine there might be some problems for the MM since they added class balancing (one of the best fixes in wot ever) when server pop is low.



Bucifel #17 Posted 08 January 2018 - 06:23 PM

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i think you misunderstood a bit new MM rules...

it says clearly enough that 3-5-7 mm means MAXIMUM 3 top tiers, MAXIMUM 5 middle tiers and others bottom tier...

that means here can be ANY combinations wich contain LESS than 3 and 5 for top tanks and more for bottoms.

same with 5-10 mm...MAXIMUM 5 top tiers, rest bottom tiers

here you can get even 1 top tier and 14 bottom tiers...for example.

 

the reason why you dont see those combinations too much is because MM have almost every time enough tanks to fill maximum numbers for new rules....and thats the main priority for new MM system....to create matches with maximum numbers allowed, and only after that create others combinations.


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JCTagger #18 Posted 08 January 2018 - 06:27 PM

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View PostBucifel, on 08 January 2018 - 06:23 PM, said:

i think you misunderstood a bit new MM rules...

it says clearly enough that 3-5-7 mm means MAXIMUM 3 top tiers, MAXIMUM 5 middle tiers and others bottom tier...

that means here can be ANY combinations wich contain LESS than 3 and 5 for top tanks and more for bottoms.

same with 5-10 mm...MAXIMUM 5 top tiers, rest bottom tiers

here you can get even 1 top tier and 14 bottom tiers...for example.

 

the reason why you dont see those combinations too much is because MM have almost every time enough tanks to fill maximum numbers for new rules....and thats the main priority for new MM system....to create matches with maximum numbers allowed, and only after that create others combinations.

 

Which neatly covers every combination mentioned here - Hurrah! :great:




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