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tajj7 #1 Posted 08 January 2018 - 12:41 PM

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Just to highlight where you want to be, if you want to be in the best position to take advantage of all the upcoming Russian tank changes coming in patch 9.22 -

 

  • Obj. 430 bought and in garage.  This will give you the new Obj. 430U AND the re-balanced for tier 9 Obj. 430. Basically 2 tanks for 1. 
  • Obj. 430 v2 accumulating XP. (should lead to a new tier 10, not confirmed yet). This is not a priority as the tier 10 for this will come at a later date. 
  • T-10 in garage and accumulating XP.  This will give you the T-10 AND the new Obj. 257 which is the new tank that will lead to the IS7. Basically 2 tanks for 1. 
  • IS accumulating XP. (will lead to the IS-M, the new rear turreted tier 8 heavy and then to the Obj. 705 and Obj. 705A, rear turreted tier 9 and 10 heavy tanks) 
  • IS3 accumulating XP if you don't already have an IS7, as this will give you access to the replacement for the T-10 in the IS7 line, the Obj. 257. If you have an IS7 then presumably the 257 will automatically unlocked. 
  • Obj. 263 bought and in garage, which will get down tiered and then give you the Obj. 268 v4 AND the rebalanced for tier 9 Obj. 263, again 2 tanks for 1. 
  • Currently people with both the SU-122-54 and the Obj. 263 in their garage will need to sell the SU-122-54 as this is being removed and replaced with the Obj. 263 and there currently seems to be no compensation for this. 

 

largely based on this leaked now official tech tree -

 

 

Good time to re-buy tanks as we have the Xmas discounts still and grind tanks with the decoration bonuses as we still have till the 15th with those for extra XP and credits. 

 

Personally I have an IS7, re-bought the T-10 using my tier 9 discount (just because I wanted to play it more than anything) but I'm only on the 416 at the moment and quite far off on the TDs. 

 

Basically owning the T-10, Obj. 263 and Obj. 430 currently will give you 3 'free' tier 9 tanks. 

 

EDIT: We now have more official information here - https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/922-ussr-tree-revision/

 

For the replaced/moved tanks - 

 

 

The tier 10s that will lead from the moved Obj. 430 v2 and the T-10 will come in a later patch. 

 

 

 

 


Edited by tajj7, 12 January 2018 - 10:34 AM.


Derethim #2 Posted 08 January 2018 - 12:48 PM

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Mmmm, rear-turreted tanks are my fav.

That's why I'm said the Obj. 416 is going and nobody is complaining about it :/

 

You don't see many of them in tier VIII battles either.



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But the leaked tree still shows Obj. 416 ?

Balc0ra #4 Posted 08 January 2018 - 12:55 PM

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View PostDerethim, on 08 January 2018 - 12:48 PM, said:

Mmmm, rear-turreted tanks are my fav.

That's why I'm said the Obj. 416 is going and nobody is complaining about it :/

 

You don't see many of them in tier VIII battles either.

 

As you can see.. the Obj 416 is still in the tech tree, and the Obj 430 II is still a tier 9. It's the tier X on that line that goes down to tier 9 from the T-44. As shown above. Nobody really complained about it as the Russian TD line took up all the "rage". And the 416 line was just an early leak, nothing on super test like the TD changes had.

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View Postqpranger, on 08 January 2018 - 11:51 AM, said:

But the leaked tree still shows Obj. 416 ?

 

 

View PostDerethim, on 08 January 2018 - 11:48 AM, said:

Mmmm, rear-turreted tanks are my fav.

That's why I'm said the Obj. 416 is going and nobody is complaining about it :/

 

You don't see many of them in tier VIII battles either.

 

 

416 stays where it is, it is represented correct in the picture.

The leaked top tree does not show just the new tier 10 rear turreted med, i guess they run out of space...:trollface:


Edited by Iulian_ro, 08 January 2018 - 12:58 PM.


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Good because I am grinding towards Obj 416, and not necessarily beyond.

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I'm not trusting WG on this one just yet, looks too vague. I won't be surprised if they'll postpone most of these changes.

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View Post_EXODUZ_, on 08 January 2018 - 11:58 AM, said:

I'm not trusting WG on this one just yet, looks too vague. I won't be surprised if they'll postpone most of these changes.

 

I wouldn't go banking any exp on the medium line, or the tier IX heavies.  The IS seems a safe bet and the IS-3 or T-10 if you don't already have the current next tier unlocked.  Though someone at WG wanted to kick it all off from the KV-13 and it's still possible that might happen.

 

Whatever you do it's a gamble and you could find your exp moved where it's no use.



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View Post_EXODUZ_, on 08 January 2018 - 12:58 PM, said:

I'm not trusting WG on this one just yet, looks too vague. I won't be surprised if they'll postpone most of these changes.

 

Well nothings is final, or officially announced yet. And ofc anything is subject to change. So I would not jump the gun on anything just yet. Tho it's not the worst idea to start the xp grind on the IS if anything. But don't buy any of the tier X's yet until we know if they will do the line next patch. Or even what happens if you own it etc.

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Are object 430 and object 430 II leading to same tierX medium or there is one medium missing at X?



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View PostCarantanien, on 08 January 2018 - 12:16 PM, said:

Are object 430 and object 430 II leading to same tierX medium or there is one medium missing at X?

 

There is on tier 10 med missing.

Obj.430-2  should lead to a new rear turreted med.



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Good thing i unlocked the T54 this weekend, because looking at that tech tree, the 416 does not lead to it anymore.

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View PostCarantanien, on 08 January 2018 - 12:16 PM, said:

Are object 430 and object 430 II leading to same tierX medium or there is one medium missing at X?

 

There is a missing tier 10 medium not announced yet that the 430 v2 will lead to, likely to be a rear turreted tier 10 medium.

 

It looks like there will be -

 

The Obj. 140

T-62A 

Obj. 430U (leading from the tier now tier 9 Obj. 430)

New rear turreted tier 10 medium (leading from the Obj. 430 v2)

Obj. 705A, rear turreted tier 10 heavy on a new line that starts from the IS.

Unknown, presumably heavium like tier 10 heavy that leads from moved T-10, possibly the T-10M. 

The IS7

The IS4

 

So looking like 5 new tier 10 Soviet vehicles (two heavies, two meds, one TD).

 

Plus there is the whole ST-I, ST-I II, and IS4 situation which might happen at a later date. 

 

 



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View PostCarantanien, on 08 January 2018 - 01:16 PM, said:

Are object 430 and object 430 II leading to same tierX medium or there is one medium missing at X?

 

There is apparently a techincal limitation aswell of a max of 11 tansk in the techtree at the same tier.  So they need to change that first.

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View Posttajj7, on 08 January 2018 - 01:25 PM, said:

 

There is a missing tier 10 medium not announced yet that the 430 v2 will lead to, likely to be a rear turreted tier 10 medium.

 

It looks like there will be -

 

The Obj. 140

T-62A 

Obj. 430U (leading from the tier now tier 9 Obj. 430)

New rear turreted tier 10 medium (leading from the Obj. 430 v2)

Obj. 705A, rear turreted tier 10 heavy on a new line that starts from the IS.

Unknown, presumably heavium like tier 10 heavy that leads from moved T-10, possibly the T-10M. 

The IS7

The IS4

 

So looking like 5 new tier 10 Soviet vehicles (two heavies, two meds, one TD).

 

Plus there is the whole ST-I, ST-I II, and IS4 situation which might happen at a later date. 

 

 

 

Question is, where the [edited]do I find 3  full soviet crews?

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View PostHomer_J, on 08 January 2018 - 02:05 PM, said:

I wouldn't go banking any exp on the medium line, or the tier IX heavies.  The IS seems a safe bet and the IS-3 or T-10 if you don't already have the current next tier unlocked.  Though someone at WG wanted to kick it all off from the KV-13 and it's still possible that might happen.

 

Whatever you do it's a gamble and you could find your exp moved where it's no use.

 

I'd not even bet on the IS branching onto the IS-M, so far WG has only confirmed that for the test server. After all as a rear turreted tank it could also be a follow-up of the A-44 ...

 

The new rear turreted T10 medium will probably not come in 9.22 as they noticed that they're currently limited to 11 lines in the techtree (and initially they didn't plan with a separate branch for the 430-II)

 

View PostLord_Edge, on 08 January 2018 - 02:32 PM, said:

So, I should get to keep my T-10, get it's replacement for free as I have an IS-7, and use XP accrued on the T-10 to unlock the super T-10? That right? :)

 

Wether you get the replacement for free or where the XP of the T-10 will go nobody knows at this time, it's all speculation.

Edited by Geno1isme, 08 January 2018 - 01:35 PM.


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So, I should get to keep my T-10, get it's replacement for free as I have an IS-7, and use XP accrued on the T-10 to unlock the super T-10? That right? :)

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 T-10 accumulating XP. (gets moved to a new line and will give access to a new tier 10 that has not been revealed yet) 

 

not sure if the XP moves with the T-10...when the lights where moved a tier up, the XP stayed on the "position" not on the tank

Edited by Eaglax, 08 January 2018 - 01:35 PM.


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View Postbrumbarr, on 08 January 2018 - 12:28 PM, said:

 

Question is, where the [edited]do I find 3  full soviet crews?

 

You don't need 3 of them, the 907 is still the best medium which is the defacto standard for competitive play and the 140 follows. With the new T10 mediums the 140 might get replaced in position 2 with a new one but generally you will always need only 1-2 skilled crews. The rest is backup.

 

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View PostCobra6, on 08 January 2018 - 01:34 PM, said:

 

You don't need 3 of them, the 907 is still the best medium which is the defacto standard for competitive play and the 140 follows. With the new T10 mediums the 140 might get replaced in position 2 with a new one but generally you will always need only 1-2 skilled crews. The rest is backup.

 

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I dont  play the best tanks, I wanna play all  TX tanks, enjoy them in randoms and 3 mark them ( and then never touch em again).

 

So I do need 3 new crews, I guess I could rip em from my  current russian meds and heavys...






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