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TungstenHitman #1 Posted 08 January 2018 - 01:25 PM

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If you have chosen the crew to get the benefit, does this extra X2 xp also go to the crew training or is it just wasted? Thanks.

Homer_J #2 Posted 08 January 2018 - 01:26 PM

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The whole crew will get x2 and the lowest trained will get another +100%.


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Mav75 #3 Posted 08 January 2018 - 01:29 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 08 January 2018 - 02:26 PM, said:

The whole crew will get x2 and the lowest trained will get another +100%.

 

If you have enabled the Accelerated Crew Training.

TungstenHitman #4 Posted 08 January 2018 - 01:31 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 08 January 2018 - 12:26 PM, said:

The whole crew will get x2 and the lowest trained will get another +100%.

 

Perfect, thanks. So using a X2 XP on an elited tank by mistake isn't a total waste of time, gotcha. Works just the same as a X2 crew xp (based on that)

Homer_J #5 Posted 08 January 2018 - 01:32 PM

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View PostMav75, on 08 January 2018 - 12:29 PM, said:

 

If you have enabled the Accelerated Crew Training.

I assume that's what he means by...

View PostTungstenHitman, on 08 January 2018 - 12:25 PM, said:

If you have chosen the crew to get the benefit,

 



shane73tank #6 Posted 08 January 2018 - 02:29 PM

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It's definitely not a waste of time, in fact once you've elited it unless you're someone who buys XP conversion with Gold you're much better turning it on as I find  your crews give a big jump in performance when they get to 3 skills, after that it's marginal 

TungstenHitman #7 Posted 08 January 2018 - 08:44 PM

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No what I meant was, and I'll try to keep it as direct as possible, when you use a X2 XP personal reserve(not crew buff) on top of an elited tank that also has the crew skill selected increase option selected, does this regular XP personal reserve get converted to extra crew skill XP and if yes, is it at the same amount a crew skill equivalent buff would give? 

 

This is a simple enough question but damned if I can ask it in anything other than a confusing way lol



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View PostTungstenHitman, on 08 January 2018 - 09:44 PM, said:

No what I meant was, and I'll try to keep it as direct as possible, when you use a X2 XP personal reserve(not crew buff) on top of an elited tank that also has the crew skill selected increase option selected, does this regular XP personal reserve get converted to extra crew skill XP and if yes, is it at the same amount a crew skill equivalent buff would give? 

 

This is a simple enough question but damned if I can ask it in anything other than a confusing way lol

 

If you mean using a xp boost (not a crew boost), then yes the xp will be used towards training your crew. Provided that the accelerated training is turned on. The boost is applied to the base amount of xp earned.



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If we try to make it simple:-

 

Comparing a +100% crew XP personal reserve against a +100XP personal reserve when base XP won is 1000 (assuming a standard account).

 

+100 Crew XP means that on an elited vehicle with additional training ticked:-

 

All crew get 1000+1000 (from personal reserve). The crew member with the least XP gets an extra 1000. So in a 4 man crew you get 3 x 2000 and 1 x 3000 xp for your  crew).

 

+100 XP means that on an elited vehicle with additional training ticked

 

All crew get 1000+1000 (from personal reserve). The crew member with the least XP gets an extra 2000 (1000 + 1000 from the PR). So in a 4 man crew you get 3 x 2000 and 1 x 4000 xp for your  crew).

 

So +100XP personal reserve is always better for crew training on elited vehicles with additional crew training turned on..

 

Think I got that right, if that's what you asked.

 

 

 



TungstenHitman #10 Posted 08 January 2018 - 09:07 PM

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View PostMav75, on 08 January 2018 - 07:53 PM, said:

 

If you mean using a xp boost (not a crew boost), then yes the xp will be used towards training your crew. Provided that the accelerated training is turned on. The boost is applied to the base amount of xp earned.

 

Perfect, thanks :)

TungstenHitman #11 Posted 08 January 2018 - 09:12 PM

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View PostDel059, on 08 January 2018 - 08:06 PM, said:

 

 

So +100XP personal reserve is always better for crew training on elited vehicles with additional crew training turned on..

 

Think I got that right, if that's what you asked.

 

 

 

 

So under those circumstances a regular XP buff is more beneficial to crew training than a crew buff of equal size... gold info, thanks

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The accelerated crew training works a bit different to what was mentioned in the previous answers. The simple logic is:

 

The crewmember with the least crew XP will get twice the crew XP he would have normally received

 

Thus a +100% tank XP boost has the same effect as a +100% crew XP boost for the matter of the accelerated crew training. What you want to do if you go for min/maxing is to combine the two. Also, there are crew XP boosts with +300% while +100% is (under normal cirumstances) the best you can get for tank XP boost.


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TungstenHitman #13 Posted 09 January 2018 - 10:34 PM

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View PostTankSchmidt, on 09 January 2018 - 08:38 PM, said:

The accelerated crew training works a bit different to what was mentioned in the previous answers. The simple logic is:

 

The crewmember with the least crew XP will get twice the crew XP he would have normally received

 

Thus a +100% tank XP boost has the same effect as a +100% crew XP boost for the matter of the accelerated crew training. What you want to do if you go for min/maxing is to combine the two. Also, there are crew XP boosts with +300% while +100% is (under normal cirumstances) the best you can get for tank XP boost.

 

Interesting. I used a combination of an xp boost and a crew xp boost today actually... and on a tank that was elited and selected for crew boost. The Christmas 46% boost was also in effect so I'm not sure how those 4 contributing boosters translated in terms of xp gains and I did keep and eye on how the amount of battles quoted to reach the next % changed from battle to battle. I.E. 16 battles changes to 10 battles with just 1 battle. But there were other variables too as my own battle performance would dictate.. All crew went from 90% to 93% of their 3rd skill over two hours of gameplay with buffs which wasn't much really... thought it would have been more. Oh well...

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View PostTungstenHitman, on 09 January 2018 - 10:34 PM, said:

Interesting. I used a combination of an xp boost and a crew xp boost today actually... and on a tank that was elited and selected for crew boost. The Christmas 46% boost was also in effect so I'm not sure how those 4 contributing boosters translated in terms of xp gains and I did keep and eye on how the amount of battles quoted to reach the next % changed from battle to battle. I.E. 16 battles changes to 10 battles with just 1 battle. But there were other variables too as my own battle performance would dictate.. All crew went from 90% to 93% of their 3rd skill over two hours of gameplay with buffs which wasn't much really... thought it would have been more. Oh well...

 

If you happen to remember

- which tank you played

- which boosters you activated

- whether you platooned

- what your winrate was

- how many games you played

- what your avg baseXP was

- if you run prem account

 

we can find it out :) But as an approximation, going from 90% to 93% on the third skill takes 79.339 crew XP; you might have been „in between“ %age points, but just taking this number as a ballpark figure shows that you did not do so badly :P



TungstenHitman #15 Posted 09 January 2018 - 11:28 PM

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View PostTankSchmidt, on 09 January 2018 - 09:57 PM, said:

 

If you happen to remember

- which tank you played

- which boosters you activated

- whether you platooned

- what your winrate was

- how many games you played

- what your avg baseXP was

- if you run prem account

 

we can find it out :) But as an approximation, going from 90% to 93% on the third skill takes 79.339 crew XP; you might have been „in between“ %age points, but just taking this number as a ballpark figure shows that you did not do so badly :P

 

 

Well, that should be easier to work out perhaps thanks to wotzilla that gives breakdowns on all averages of gains etc made during the day.

 

http://wotzilla.com/playerinfos/Details/tungstenhitman#player-tank-activity-gamemode

 

So with that average of xp per battle displayed, what I was using in that two hours, because I had tons, was a +50% standard xp booster and a +50% crew booster, an elited tank, in this case a T71, with the crew boost option selected, a standard account, and finally, a Christmas atmosphere booster at 48%. Now that I remember it, the crew were going from 88% for some and 89% for the other and I ended up 1-2 battles short of hitting 92%.

 

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For the battles in which I took an early shower, I used the AMX 30, was only for two battles actually so I guess I hung in there to the end of the other battles but this tank is not elited so does not have the crew booster option and also, runs at a Christmas atmosphere boost of only 36% but in those two battles got the commander to within one battle of a 4th skill, which was really nice so I did get a decent return for those two battles too though at a lessor crew xp gain... or maybe not, because it appears I only averaged 573xp with the T71 but 926xp with the AMX 30

 

Spoiler

 

 



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Alright, let‘s calculate. T71:

 

BaseXP                        573,35

+50% tank XP boost    286,675

+48% holiday ops        275,208

= total tank XP          1.135,233

+50% crew XP boost   286,675

=total crew XP           1.421,908 // 2.843,816 for girl with accelerated crew training

 

As you played 17 battles, that is a total of 24.172,436 crew XP plus 1/3 of that due three crewmembers that alternate the accelerated crew training giving a total rounded 32.230 crew XP.

Also, as you are using girls, their first perk „sisterhood of steel“ does not count in terms of crew XP, so for that matter you improved in the 2nd skill. Going from 89% to 92% is 37.884 crew XP which seems to fit this approximation.

 

For the AMX30 with 926 baseXP it would be 2.185 crewXP and 4.370 crewXP for the one with accelerated crew training.



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View PostTankSchmidt, on 10 January 2018 - 06:28 PM, said:

Alright, let‘s calculate. T71:

 

BaseXP                        573,35

+50% tank XP boost    286,675

+48% holiday ops        275,208

= total tank XP          1.135,233

 

Base Crew                    573,35

+50% crew XP boost   286,675

+48% holiday ops        275,208

= total crew XP           1.135,233

+ tank XP                    1,135,233

= total XP for ACT recv 2.270,466

FTFY. Crew boosters do not apply to the tank XP that would get converted to Crew XP while ACT is active.


Edited by Red_Dragon_Firkraag, 10 January 2018 - 06:43 PM.


TankSchmidt #18 Posted 10 January 2018 - 06:45 PM

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View PostRed_Dragon_Firkraag, on 10 January 2018 - 06:37 PM, said:

FTFY. Crew boosters do not apply to the tank XP that would get converted to Crew XP while ACT is active.

 

They do. Because as said in post 12 of this thread, accelerated crew training has nothing to do with tank XP per se but will double the crew XP the crewmember would have normally gotten.

 

Edit: even if what you say was true, your „fixed“ calculation is wrong because you removed the crew XP booster entirely and not just from act.


Edited by TankSchmidt, 10 January 2018 - 06:46 PM.





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