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sil3ntkill4 #1 Posted 11 January 2018 - 01:10 PM

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i have huge problems with grinding this tank... it's getting ammoracked waaaay to often, top gun on paper seems ok but in game - omg! with 100mm gun after just a slight movement, i have about 5 sec aim time for 200-300m target and DPM is terrible... if I try 85mm, I can only spam gold, even which is not enough for new MM where I get tier IX way too often and can't pen most of them. 

 

then again, when I see average damage, mine is better than only 30% of players (!?) how did you play this tank? did I miss some nerfs or something? it's possibly the worst tank i've played so far in wot



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I have pleasant memories of my T-34-1, at Tier 7 I preferred it over the Comet
 


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well it looks so good but feels so bad.. i can handle horrrrrible gun handling but that tank also feels somehow really sluggish to me.. and that kill all joy in that tank. For example cromwell has bad gun too but atleast is fast.

vasilinhorulezz #4 Posted 11 January 2018 - 01:40 PM

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Although I haven't played the line my self, from what I've heard (or read on forums and stuff), tier for tier it's considered way better than the tier 8 one.

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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 11 January 2018 - 12:40 PM, said:

Although I haven't played the line my self, from what I've heard (or read on forums and stuff), tier for tier it's considered way better than the tier 8 one.

 

problem about t34-2 is that you go one tier up but still have same gun.. it is one of those cases like with t32 or t43.

sil3ntkill4 #6 Posted 11 January 2018 - 01:48 PM

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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 11 January 2018 - 01:40 PM, said:

Although I haven't played the line my self, from what I've heard (or read on forums and stuff), tier for tier it's considered way better than the tier 8 one.

well that makes me wonder what am I doing grinding this line 

 

View Postadameitas, on 11 January 2018 - 01:37 PM, said:

well it looks so good but feels so bad.. i can handle horrrrrible gun handling but that tank also feels somehow really sluggish to me.. and that kill all joy in that tank. For example cromwell has bad gun too but atleast is fast.

exactly! average mobility, terrible DPM and gun handling... decent vision tho but still the gun is so bad it cant even use it's vision for sniping... only passive role



Comrade_Renamon #7 Posted 11 January 2018 - 01:48 PM

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It has the same mobility as the Type 58 at T6, at T7 that feels much worse and given the hull size any hit will damage/knock out a module, which is why you want to avoid getting hit on the hull at any cost.

I am not exactly a fan of the atrocious gun handling (feels a lot like Pre-buff T-34-3) but it can get the job done, the strong points of the tank is the Camo, sturdy turret+low profile and the high alpha so you need to play around that.

 

Edit: for the love of everything holy play the Heavy line first before going on the MT line otherwise you are in for a lot of pain.


Edited by Comrade_Renamon, 11 January 2018 - 01:50 PM.


sil3ntkill4 #8 Posted 11 January 2018 - 01:49 PM

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View Postadameitas, on 11 January 2018 - 01:45 PM, said:

 

problem about t34-2 is that you go one tier up but still have same gun.. it is one of those cases like with t32 or t43.

 

t34-2 actually has 122mm and t34-1 has 100mm

apaleytos #9 Posted 11 January 2018 - 01:49 PM

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I tried to grind mine with 75% crew and it was horrible.

 

If you have sixthsense,aiming skills(snapshot,smooth ride) and camo crew (this tank has amazing camo) it should be playable.Gun is full potato like a  HT gun but the alpha is nice,apcr pen is nice also.The turret is crazy and you face/side hug other meds and Lts to death :trollface:.Even go hulldown in many places with so low profile.Definately a keeper tank played as flanker,even pseudo scout in absence of LTs.


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sil3ntkill4 #10 Posted 11 January 2018 - 01:50 PM

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View PostComrade_Renamon, on 11 January 2018 - 01:48 PM, said:

It has the same mobility as the Type 58 at T6, at T7 that feels much worse and given the hull size any hit will damage/knock out a module, which is why you want to avoid getting hit on the hull at any cost.

I am not exactly a fan of the atrocious gun handling (feels a lot like Pre-buff T-34-3) but it can get the job done, the strong points of the tank is the Camo, sturdy turret+low profile and the high alpha so you need to play around that.

 

what high alpha?

sil3ntkill4 #11 Posted 11 January 2018 - 01:52 PM

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guys this tank has terrible top gun 100mm with 250 alpha and 175 pen with aimtime that feels like prebuff 34-3 122mm

Edited by sil3ntkill4, 11 January 2018 - 01:53 PM.


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The biggest flaw of the T-34-1 is that it unlocks the T-34-2 which is even shittier.

sil3ntkill4 #13 Posted 11 January 2018 - 01:55 PM

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oh... so did it have 122mm before? maybe that's the case why it's so bad now! i mean I would be pretty ok if it has 122mm, then it would all make sense

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View Postsil3ntkill4, on 11 January 2018 - 12:50 PM, said:

 

what high alpha?

 

Welp well 250 used to be high before the Swedish got in it was the second highest in the tier, it still is up high ( Leo and the A-44 has higher alpha, the american has a bit less alpha), rest of the tanks of that tier has much less. I'll tell you now that the rest of the Chinese mediums have the same setup, Good Camo, Above average alpha for a Medium in tier and not too stellar gun handling/dpm (the T10 has alright gun handling and good DPM on the gun) combined with not too great gun depression.

 

PS: 175 pen is bad at T7? it has the 3rd best penetration of same tier mediums.


Edited by Comrade_Renamon, 11 January 2018 - 01:57 PM.


sil3ntkill4 #15 Posted 11 January 2018 - 02:03 PM

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View PostComrade_Renamon, on 11 January 2018 - 01:57 PM, said:

 

 

Welp well 250 used to be high before the Swedish got in it was the second highest in the tier, it still is up high ( Leo and the A-44 has higher alpha, the american has a bit less alpha), rest of the tanks of that tier has much less. I'll tell you now that the rest of the Chinese mediums have the same setup, Good Camo, Above average alpha for a Medium in tier and not too stellar gun handling/dpm (the T10 has alright gun handling and good DPM on the gun) combined with not too great gun depression.

 

PS: 175 pen is bad at T7? it has the 3rd best penetration of same tier mediums.

 

in new MM where you get tier IX more often than not, it is low... did I mention 5-6 sec aimtime and slow shell with 0.4 dispersion?

 

also the tanks you can pen can out DPM you very very easily


Edited by sil3ntkill4, 11 January 2018 - 02:04 PM.


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the T-34-1 wasn't *bad* but wasn't good either, the aimtime is what killed it for me, I ended up playing sniper and running it with anything I could to boost the aimtime... the alpha was also too low for what it was and you had no real influence in world of corridors...

the T-34-2 is said to be really bad.. but atleast it has 390 alpha, so you've atleast got some punishement to deal out...



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Not played it for some time but it is a pretty stealthy tank you can make good use of that, it has stationary camo as good as many light tanks despite the guns average accuracy I found it a better support tank than brawler.

 

Consider getting a wet rack for the tank until such time as you can train in safe stowage.

Learn where your ammo racks are located so you can better protect them.

 

http://www.wotinfo.n...le=hitzone_t341



sil3ntkill4 #18 Posted 11 January 2018 - 02:22 PM

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View PostGremlin182, on 11 January 2018 - 02:18 PM, said:

Not played it for some time but it is a pretty stealthy tank you can make good use of that, it has stationary camo as good as many light tanks despite the guns average accuracy I found it a better support tank than brawler.

 

Consider getting a wet rack for the tank until such time as you can train in safe stowage.

Learn where your ammo racks are located so you can better protect them.

 

http://www.wotinfo.n...le=hitzone_t341

 

so basically come out at them with my butt :teethhappy:

Edited by sil3ntkill4, 11 January 2018 - 02:22 PM.


ZlatanArKung #19 Posted 11 January 2018 - 02:23 PM

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The T-34-1 was one of the best T7 mediums imo.
Strong turret that can bounce much stuff.
A gun that hits hard. But is unreliable.
So you need to be close to enemies.

You burn easy, so hide everything except the turret.

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View Postsil3ntkill4, on 11 January 2018 - 12:49 PM, said:

 

t34-2 actually has 122mm and t34-1 has 100mm

 

yes it has but 122 mm gun is so bad that i dont see it as option unless you want to troll.. really that gun probably has worse gun handling then arty.. 




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