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Obj 430 Version 2 vs T-54


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Poll: Which tank? (22 members have cast votes)

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Obj 430 v2 OR T-54

  1. Obj 430 + Obj 430U (7 votes [31.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.82%

  2. T-54 + T-62a (4 votes [18.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.18%

  3. T-54 + Obj 140 (11 votes [50.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

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ScottishJunky #1 Posted 11 January 2018 - 07:43 PM

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I'm currently at the Obj 416 with 100k and was thinking should I get the Obj 430 v2 so I can get the new tier 10 or just get the t-62a/obj 140?

Hezs #2 Posted 11 January 2018 - 09:11 PM

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Obj 430U will be op as hell, so go for it. Also obj 430 II is very good tank, I'd say OP if you spam heat and sideskirt with it. 

Balc0ra #3 Posted 11 January 2018 - 09:20 PM

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View PostScottishJunky, on 11 January 2018 - 07:43 PM, said:

I'm currently at the Obj 416 with 100k and was thinking should I get the Obj 430 v2 so I can get the new tier 10 or just get the t-62a/obj 140?

 

You have about a month give or take to do so, and the 430 II needs about 310 000 XP at the min to unlock the tier X if you use the 416 gun and skip the turret & track. As there is a 52K XP engine blocking the 430 at 260K. 

 

 

And you need to buy the Obj 430 to get the new tier X for free. If you only have it researched, you will still keep the 430 II on tier 9 as is, the 430 on tier 9 with the new tier X unlocked in the tech tree.



ScottishJunky #4 Posted 11 January 2018 - 09:56 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 11 January 2018 - 09:20 PM, said:

 

You have about a month give or take to do so, and the 430 II needs about 310 000 XP at the min to unlock the tier X if you use the 416 gun and skip the turret & track. As there is a 52K XP engine blocking the 430 at 260K. 

 

 

And you need to buy the Obj 430 to get the new tier X for free. If you only have it researched, you will still keep the 430 II on tier 9 as is, the 430 on tier 9 with the new tier X unlocked in the tech tree.

 

​So you saying the Obj 430 v2 instead of T-54?

Thrael7 #5 Posted 11 January 2018 - 11:52 PM

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Either way you 're gonna have to grind A LOT(!!!), assuming you will play fully upgraged Tier9s.

 

The T-54 has the LB-1 gun before you can unlock the top turret and then go for either of the top guns that both need ~59k XP to unlock. Either Tier10 will take close to 360.000XP.

I think the Obj430 ver2 also takes about 360.000 XP to get to the Tier10, unless you wanna also grind and use the D-54 gun which is 59.000XP more. Stock gun is better imho.

 

Most of us think the upcoming 430y is going to be retardingly strong so ppl will go for it. You have a limited time frame till 9.22. IF you choose to go the T54 way then you have all the time you need to unlock both Obj140 and T-62A.

The Obj140 is already very good and that's a given. The new Obj430y is expected to be very good.

 


Edited by Thrael7, 11 January 2018 - 11:54 PM.


WhoCares01 #6 Posted 12 January 2018 - 12:12 AM

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I'd suggest to unlock the T-54 first, because once the new tech tree is out, you will not be able to do so with the Obj. 416, but you have to go the T-44 route. The Obj. 430 you can still unlock after the patch...

Thrael7 #7 Posted 12 January 2018 - 12:44 AM

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After 9.22 the T-44 will be the only way to unlock the 430 and 430Y as well.

The 430ver2 will possibly lead to a new Tier10 some time in the future.


Edited by Thrael7, 12 January 2018 - 12:46 AM.


Balc0ra #8 Posted 12 January 2018 - 12:26 PM

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View PostScottishJunky, on 11 January 2018 - 09:56 PM, said:

 

​So you saying the Obj 430 v2 instead of T-54?

 

No I'm saying be prepared for a way longer grind if you plan to get the tier new tier X's before the change, if that was your point. As we don't know if the new tier X from the 430 II will be good yet to be worth it. Tho the new tier X you will get if you elite the 430 II in time, will be worth it more so then the tier 9's atm unless it gets nerfed on CT.

 

Tho T-54 vs 430 II tier X's aside. I would say 54. The 430 II is not a bad tank. Even stock, as you get the 416 gun and 3K dpm still with 201 pen, just like the T-54 with 201 pen. But it's rear turreted. So on most med lanes brawling for ridge lines. It's way trickier to play with, vs even the 416. As the camo values etc and the way it's set up don't make it a good "TD" as the 416, as it camo is crap vs it tbh. So there it's more down to style vs anything tbh. But it's still a great mid to late game bully med, like the 416 and T-54 etc. Just not great for the early play. As it's not as sneaky as the 416, or can play ridge lines as good as the T-54. So your options are usually limited early on on most maps.



adameitas #9 Posted 12 January 2018 - 12:36 PM

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well since some changes gonna happen to russian meds it a bit tricky to say. If you want easy grind and get decent t-10 go for 140 or t62a both are great so choose what looks better for you:) Atm it is really hard to say how gonna 430 and 430u look at the end but i guess they gonna be at least decent. While no idea how gonna look new t10 that gonna be unlocked from 430II but for sure it gonna be turret back so a bit more situational then 140/t62a/430u.

All_up_in_ur_grille #10 Posted 12 January 2018 - 02:26 PM

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The Obj 430 II is far more playable from stock than the T-54 which is a XP hog, so it may depend how much free XP you have, or how much frustration you are prepared to put up with playing with the T-44's gun on the T-54

 

The stock gun on the 430 II is superior to the upgraded one in gunhandling and DPM, with the small sacrifice of 18mm of pen on AP (but still 330 on HEAT), you can save yourself 59k XP and over half a ton of weight by sticking with the stock gun. With stock tracks & gun you can mount all the other module upgrades (inc solid upgraded turret) and three pieces of equipment without using torsion bars. Upgrade path would be Turret, Engine then Tracks.

 

On the T-54 you'll need 82k XP for the turret and a workable gun, I can't remember if you can mount turret, gun and equipment with the stock tracks, if not then thats another 23.5k XP or sacrificing a slot for torsion bars.

 

Tank specifics and upgrades aside, it'll probably come down to what you want more, a new to game tier X along with a free tier 9 med, or quicker access to the Obj 140 and T-62A which you'll have to go from the T-44 (a real XP sinkhole) after the patch






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