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azakow #21 Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:21 AM

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Whining about LT and using the word "meta" to elaborate and reason?

Wow, one could think this is expert talk, but IMO it isn't!

 

LT5, unable to spot? > problem resides at the keyboard only!

LT6, what guns have made them at all in the first place?

LT7, oops a butthurt whatever (Yes, I own a AMX 1357 GF); asside from prem what other LT7 are good?

LT8, what have been their uniqe features at all? please also give a time/release stamp!

LT9, wow "actually" good ?!; I wonder about the base of this statement. What LT9 are you refering to?

LT10, pen drop off is a problem?; well then you might have to get the guts the skill to jump right into the action! Remember at tier 10 the world is different, no matter what vehicle type.

 

I am about to complete my 35,000 match on LT.

During the last weeks I have played a lot of matches mostly on LT8 and LT10.

I do not see any problem with them at all. I do have trouble to get some of the working for me, i.e. AMX 13 105 and WZ-132-1. I am sure it can be done, but there is nothing that drives me to do so.

T-100 LT really is the reincarnation of the T-50-2.(2.1k avrg dmg, 1.6k avrg assisted)

 

LT8 are decent. LT8 prem rock!

 

The last week I have taken out my M24 Chaffee more often. It really feels like seal clubbing, performing at 1.2k+ dmg and 1.8k+ assissted.

 

I miss the uniqeness on some of the current LT, i.e. Derp gun on VK, auto loader on SPIC. The feeling of all LT being more like the same thing is stronk at current.

 

Whoever allows them LT players to register an account, pleae provide them a proper set of crews and skills at the keyboard.


Edited by azakow, 13 January 2018 - 09:40 AM.


Erwin_Von_Braun #22 Posted 13 January 2018 - 11:44 AM

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View Postazakow, on 13 January 2018 - 08:21 AM, said:

Whining about LT and using the word "meta" to elaborate and reason?

Wow, one could think this is expert talk, but IMO it isn't!

 

LT5, unable to spot? > problem resides at the keyboard only!

LT6, what guns have made them at all in the first place?

LT7, oops a butthurt whatever (Yes, I own a AMX 1357 GF); asside from prem what other LT7 are good?

LT8, what have been their uniqe features at all? please also give a time/release stamp!

LT9, wow "actually" good ?!; I wonder about the base of this statement. What LT9 are you refering to?

LT10, pen drop off is a problem?; well then you might have to get the guts the skill to jump right into the action! Remember at tier 10 the world is different, no matter what vehicle type.

 

I am about to complete my 35,000 match on LT.

During the last weeks I have played a lot of matches mostly on LT8 and LT10.

I do not see any problem with them at all. I do have trouble to get some of the working for me, i.e. AMX 13 105 and WZ-132-1. I am sure it can be done, but there is nothing that drives me to do so.

T-100 LT really is the reincarnation of the T-50-2.(2.1k avrg dmg, 1.6k avrg assisted)

 

LT8 are decent. LT8 prem rock!

 

The last week I have taken out my M24 Chaffee more often. It really feels like seal clubbing, performing at 1.2k+ dmg and 1.8k+ assissted.

 

I miss the uniqeness on some of the current LT, i.e. Derp gun on VK, auto loader on SPIC. The feeling of all LT being more like the same thing is stronk at current.

 

Whoever allows them LT players to register an account, pleae provide them a proper set of crews and skills at the keyboard.

 

Couldn't agree more.

Tier VIII LT's have that old fashioned +3mm feel about them & that represents possibly one of the most challenging aspects of the game right now.

I must say I've become a huge fan of the LTG since the changes last year and I'm currently ploughing my way towards the T-100, it's the only Tier X LT that I liked on Sandbox.



shane73tank #23 Posted 13 January 2018 - 11:56 AM

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The only shame is that yet again the cream of the crop - rasha ! 

 

I really enjoy my lts but I mostly play tier 7 and 8, I will say that any old premium or is just a freakin’ blast right now, I can understand people wanting to change back but that’s not gonna happen it’s still fun just different fun - adapt , adopt and enjoy



azakow #24 Posted 13 January 2018 - 06:40 PM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 13 January 2018 - 11:44 AM, said:

 

Couldn't agree more.

Tier VIII LT's have that old fashioned +3mm feel about them & that represents possibly one of the most challenging aspects of the game right now.

I must say I've become a huge fan of the LTG since the changes last year and I'm currently ploughing my way towards the T-100, it's the only Tier X LT that I liked on Sandbox.

... and so have many many others.

The number of LT in matches has increased alot.

Before, it was rather rare to two or more LT per side.

Today, this is almost standard procedure in matches.

 

To me a successful reactivation of an "abandoned" vehicle class.

 

 

View Postshane73tank, on 13 January 2018 - 11:56 AM, said:

The only shame is that yet again the cream of the crop - rasha ! 

 

I really enjoy my lts but I mostly play tier 7 and 8, I will say that any old premium or is just a freakin’ blast right now, I can understand people wanting to change back but that’s not gonna happen it’s still fun just different fun - adapt , adopt and enjoy

I do not mind at all.

Doesn't taste the cream of each LT10 a bit diffrent?



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View Postazakow, on 13 January 2018 - 05:40 PM, said:

... and so have many many others.

The number of LT in matches has increased alot.

Before, it was rather rare to two or more LT per side.

Today, this is almost standard procedure in matches.

 

To me a successful reactivation of an "abandoned" vehicle class.

 

 

I do not mind at all.

Doesn't taste the cream of each LT10 a bit diffrent?

 

For the record, I'm having monstrous amounts of fun today in the new(ish) T71CMCD.

Put a decent crew in it + a case of Cola and it's a beast of thing, if a little fragile.



Bordhaw #26 Posted 14 January 2018 - 11:02 AM

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View PostJigabachi, on 12 January 2018 - 12:12 AM, said:

First we need proper maps, THEN we can discuss all the other changes.

 

Current map logic is three corridors for 1 for heavy, 1 for medium and 1 for TD and a middle open zone for lights and arty. 

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View PostBordhaw, on 14 January 2018 - 10:02 AM, said:

 

Current map logic is three corridors for 1 for heavy, 1 for medium and 1 for TD and a middle open zone for lights and arty. 

 

And then we have paris...

shousee #28 Posted 14 January 2018 - 04:17 PM

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Remove LTs as top tier coz they are stupidly strong as top tier. Tier 10 is ok.

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View Postshousee, on 14 January 2018 - 03:17 PM, said:

Remove LTs as top tier coz they are stupidly strong as top tier. Tier 10 is ok.

 

Really? i hate being top tier in T92 as the guns pathetic and the platforms as a whole sucks. if you are not top tier, mediums on enemy team will have more viewrange than you. armor and guns. lights have no real reason to be in game but be gimped mediums.

shousee #30 Posted 14 January 2018 - 04:26 PM

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Autoloading LTs as Top tier such as French or Muricans are too stupid, they can outspot, outtrade and outmanouver everything on battlefield.

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View Postshousee, on 14 January 2018 - 03:26 PM, said:

Autoloading LTs as Top tier such as French or Muricans are too stupid, they can outspot, outtrade and outmanouver everything on battlefield.

 

Sadly true. if your tank doesent have a big gun or an autoloader. the tanks useless junk. WZ-132 at least gets a 100mm for a teir 8. meanwhile T92 gets nothing.

azakow #32 Posted 14 January 2018 - 08:50 PM

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 14 January 2018 - 04:21 PM, said:

 

Really? i hate being top tier in T92 as the guns pathetic and the platforms as a whole sucks. if you are not top tier, mediums on enemy team will have more viewrange than you. armor and guns. lights have no real reason to be in game but be gimped mediums.

I do not know any different from you.

I repeat myself every time, L2P man!

 

Did you ever try out or performed some testing on the camo value of T92?

Or even better, did you ever try to play it as a extremly "gimped" MT8.

I assume you didn't.

 

View Postshousee, on 14 January 2018 - 04:26 PM, said:

Autoloading LTs as Top tier such as French or Muricans are too stupid, they can outspot, outtrade and outmanouver everything on battlefield.

Auto loading FR LT can "out"-whatever on the battlefield.

Please provide such evidence while commanding a AMX 1390 when in top three bracket. Preferable a Master Badge on wotreplays please.

Thank you.

 


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shousee #33 Posted 14 January 2018 - 09:00 PM

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View Postazakow, on 14 January 2018 - 08:50 PM, said:

I do not know any different from you.

I repeat myself every time, L2P man!

 

Did you ever try out or performed some testing on the camo value of T92?

Or even better, did you ever try to play it as a extremly "gimped" MT8.

I assume you didn't.

 

Auto loading FR LT can "out"-whatever on the battlefield.

Please provide such evidence while commanding a AMX 1390 when in top three bracket. Preferable a Master Badge on wotreplays please.

Thank you.

 

 

Played plenty of games when enemy top tier AMX 1319 carried hard, I surely have those replays in my WoT folder since I dont delete them but I am sure u gonna find a lot of good carry replays on wot replays, I was talking maily about tier 6 - 7 - 8 since they meet low tier tank or even tier 7 that can get clipped while they dont even know where are they beeing shot from.

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View Postshousee, on 14 January 2018 - 09:00 PM, said:

 

Played plenty of games when enemy top tier AMX 1319 carried hard, I surely have those replays in my WoT folder since I dont delete them but I am sure u gonna find a lot of good carry replays on wot replays, I was talking maily about tier 6 - 7 - 8 since they meet low tier tank or even tier 7 that can get clipped while they dont even know where are they beeing shot from.

 

Who can they clip?

Besides the manouvrebility of the french is piss poor. And gunhandling? what gunhandling? It is like playing the lottery. "will i hit and pen?"

They are far from anything good.

You can carry in all tanks. even the amx12t which is by far the worst light tank of the game. The game just have to be right. And the enemy equally bad.



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I cant say anything about LTs below tier 8, but tier 8 and 9 are alright imo. Tier 10 LTs are a joke however. Although I enjoy them their guns are just infuriating. I can live with either bad pen or bad accuracy, but both is just a slap in the face. I am performing decently in them, but it feels like I have to put way more effort into them than I do other tanks.

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I've just discovered that I have another way of getting to the T-54 than grinding through T-43 (which is an abysmal machine imo, way worse than KV-13).

LTTB - turns out I've unlocked it with the LT changes. And it's ... playable.

I was completely speechless to discover that a tier VIII is playable in the current MM ... please leave the LTs alone, no more balancing please ... 



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t9 cool

 

t10 crap



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I miss the days i could circle tier 10s in my Chaffee..  

Sure you could get 1 shot by every tank almost and that was half the fun.

Zipping across the map at full speed was awesome, and flooring it increased your chance at surviving.

What a great little scout it was

 







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