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coyob #1 Posted 12 January 2018 - 11:12 AM

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Hello everyone,

Started a petition for the lovely Su-122-54  here https://www.thepetit...on/427/570/629/



After hearing the news that it is removed, it feels like some of our favourite tanks are not safe anymore. It is up to developers to decide, of course, as they've been making some good decisions over the years, however, this one, about Su-122-54 seems out of the blue, and unnecessary, as the vehicle is not overpowered or anything like that. Adding to that, Wargaming very nicely gave FV215b (183) to people who already owned it, and it was a very wise decision - everyone happy about it.

If you agree that complete removal of Su-122-54 is to "drastic" of a decision, and that something of the same should happen with the Su-122-54 as it did with FV215b, please sign the petition, it takes only a few seconds. Do not slack this one out guys, your favourite tanks are in danger ;)
 

Balc0ra #2 Posted 12 January 2018 - 11:15 AM

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Even if you get a 1000. There are already more then that on RU that has complained about it. So I suspect you need more then that sadly.

coyob #3 Posted 12 January 2018 - 11:21 AM

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I could not set a number on it, it set it automaticly. 1000 for starters seems enough, thank you for your imput, Sir !

Edit: Changed the number to slightly more fit the occasion.

Edited by coyob, 12 January 2018 - 11:27 AM.


zerosumgame #4 Posted 12 January 2018 - 11:33 AM

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Don't worry, you will most likely get the chance to buy that vehicle back in the future as a tier 8 premium.

ricoBenitez1 #5 Posted 12 January 2018 - 11:38 AM

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Like a petition will make WG thing about it again, so good luck,

PS. i dont think that a petition have evar done anything here dut keep dreaming.



Bennie182 #6 Posted 12 January 2018 - 11:45 AM

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let's start a petition every time WG screws up.

Iscoed1815 #7 Posted 12 January 2018 - 12:13 PM

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Its' not overpowered, it's underpowered, as stated on WG's notes for upcoming patch, it just doesn't perform very well for it's tier.

Eaglax #8 Posted 12 January 2018 - 12:17 PM

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maybe it was a mistake to make the Foch 155 and the 183 special tanks, because now everyone wants a "free" special tank when a tank gets removed. Tanks were removed before, but never so many people complained and whined about it, and demanded a "free"-special tank...many, many people who complain don't even have the tank or didn't even bother starting the line, a "free"-special tank is all they care about...

 

Don't get me wrong, ofc it would be nice if WG would make it a special tank instead of removing it, maybe they will re-introduce it as a prem just like the Lorraine. But I'm not angry about that they don't give me a free-special tank, and I don't start whining because of that, and I will surely not demand it. As said before, tanks were removed in the past without making the special tanks, and that's probably happening in the future as well.

Edited by Eaglax, 12 January 2018 - 12:18 PM.


FatigueGalaxy #9 Posted 12 January 2018 - 12:25 PM

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They will re-introduce it as tier 8 premium, but later so they don't have to give it to people for free. They always give tanks for free when they swap/move them, including changing them to premium vehicles.

But when they remove it and add it later as premium... that's a different story.



Bucifel #10 Posted 12 January 2018 - 03:47 PM

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View Postzerosumgame, on 12 January 2018 - 11:33 AM, said:

Don't worry, you will most likely get the chance to buy that vehicle back in the future as a tier 8 premium.

 

exactly from here money for WG in that way : 

_)_

 

DONT REMOVE TANKS !!!

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Edited by Bucifel, 12 January 2018 - 03:48 PM.


clixor #11 Posted 12 January 2018 - 05:50 PM

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View Postzerosumgame, on 12 January 2018 - 11:33 AM, said:

Don't worry, you will most likely get the chance to buy that vehicle back in the future as a tier 8 premium.

 

dunno. it probably get's a buff beforehand :D

arthurwellsley #12 Posted 12 January 2018 - 06:18 PM

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WG rarely listen very much to what is said on EU server.

 

RU is a much larger population and greater source of income.

 

RU is complaining about the down tiering of the 263 which is much more of an issue to them. Despite the whine about the 263, on RU WG has reverted to their original plan to down tier it to tier IX.

 

I therefore hardly think they will give much credence to a petition on EU about the Su-122-54, which is not rear turreted and so does not fit with the rest of the line. This is a Lorraine 40t situation, The Su-122-54 is more likely to be in the premium shop as a tier VIII that you can purchase for real money occassionally.



ZlatanArKung #13 Posted 12 January 2018 - 06:38 PM

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You could get 6 000 000 000 votes for it to stay, WG would still remove it.

coyob #14 Posted 12 January 2018 - 08:43 PM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 12 January 2018 - 06:18 PM, said:

WG rarely listen very much to what is said on EU server.

 

RU is a much larger population and greater source of income.

 

RU is complaining about the down tiering of the 263 which is much more of an issue to them. Despite the whine about the 263, on RU WG has reverted to their original plan to down tier it to tier IX.

 

I therefore hardly think they will give much credence to a petition on EU about the Su-122-54, which is not rear turreted and so does not fit with the rest of the line. This is a Lorraine 40t situation, The Su-122-54 is more likely to be in the premium shop as a tier VIII that you can purchase for real money occassionally.

 

​Thanks for the info :)
Well, I hope it reaches the premium shop at some point.

However, on the same topic - we have Su-122-44, which basicly looks the same. Do you think its possible to have two vehicles that look almost the same ?

Edited by coyob, 12 January 2018 - 08:46 PM.


Aikl #15 Posted 12 January 2018 - 08:55 PM

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If it was T10 and broken as balls, it would become a gift tank. Alas...

 

 

The WZ-120-1G FT is potentially rather similar, by the way, and likely better 'tier-for-tier'.

View Postcoyob, on 12 January 2018 - 07:43 PM, said:

 

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However, on the same topic - we have Su-122-44, which basicly looks the same. Do you think its possible to have two vehicles that look almost the same ?

 

Shouldn't be a problem at all. The 122-54 would offer a nice upgrade for those who remember the glory days of the '44. Well, when it drove around without a mind in the world, bounced shots left and right (mostly frontally, but still) and outgunned everything it couldn't outrun.



Aphraid #16 Posted 13 January 2018 - 11:37 AM

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I have no doubt that it will return as a tier 8 premium. They did it with the Lorraine 40t. That too just didn't "fit" in the line. Strangely shoving in new mediums and branch lines is fine sometimes as in 9.22. It would be easy to just split it into an additional tier 9. 

 

Another more simpler route would of been to just buff the Su-122-54. An actual simple buff too. Make it more mobile. The softstats and weak p/w ratio is what really kills the tank. The dpm is among highest in the game of tier 9 and most respects tier 10. 440 every 7.5 sec ins't bad. The stubborness of making every tank move slow in reverse hurts many tanks. Especially those without any armor. Just like the Kanonenjagdpanzer. It does over 70km/h in real life. But got to get them premium manniessss



coyob #17 Posted 13 January 2018 - 07:06 PM

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Well, guys, lots of talk lately. You could support the petition by signing it, talk on the forums wont show a thing you know.

ZlatanArKung #18 Posted 13 January 2018 - 07:09 PM

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View Postcoyob, on 13 January 2018 - 07:06 PM, said:

Well, guys, lots of talk lately. You could support the petition by signing it, talk on the forums wont show a thing you know.

And neither will a petition, it is WG we are talking about. 



Liviguy #19 Posted 14 January 2018 - 09:54 PM

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Don’t worry WG will come up with another OP td to ruin gameplay for you, Chinese or Russian.

coyob #20 Posted 15 January 2018 - 01:13 PM

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Wow, so much negativity.
 




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