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Tarix819 #1 Posted 14 January 2018 - 12:56 AM

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So many of you may have seen this image lurking around on the net:

 

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This is the 'Taurus Self-Propelled Gun', a British Tank project, proposed at some point during WW2.

 

That's it. That's all the information available about this picture, that and the picture itself. Here's what I can tell from the image:

 

-Judging by the picture it was planned to mount the 17-pdr Gun.

-It looks like it's based on the FV201/FV214 hull.

-It was planned to mount some kind of machine gun on top of the superstructure (probably BESA 7.92mm).

-It has very limited gun traverse and a circular mantlet, oddly similar to that of the Tortoise Assault Tank.

-It has a small periscope to the right of the main gun.

-It only made it to model stage (not even mockup).

 

I feel like this vehicle was an alternative project to the FV205, but since the FV205 mounted the 120mm and the Taurus only the 17-pdr, it suggests they are two completely different projects, especially since the FV205 is a 1949 project, and the 17-pdr was outdated by that time:

 

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From searching on the internet I cannot for the love of me find any project information regarding this vehicle whatsoever.

 

What do you guys think? Does this belong in WoT or not? 

 

What are you're thoughts about the Taurus' history?

 

If anyone could provide any more information about this vehicle, it would be greatly appreciated.

 

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Derethim #2 Posted 14 January 2018 - 01:02 AM

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No info from me, except, that WG has begun working on this tank as a premium British tier VI TD the second you posted this :trollface:

Also, it will be impenetrable from the front.


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Tarix819 #3 Posted 14 January 2018 - 01:22 AM

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Just found what looks to be a fan-made 3D model of the vehicle, however there is little information, and is likely just based on speculation:

 

https://www.shapeway...rus-spg-project



SnowRelic #4 Posted 14 January 2018 - 04:53 PM

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Give WG eleven months to work it out and they might have something interesting for sale next Christmas.

evilchaosmonkey #5 Posted 14 January 2018 - 05:25 PM

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Nah, can't be British. 

It has sloped armour and doesn't have any rivets.



ZlatanArKung #6 Posted 14 January 2018 - 05:32 PM

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View PostDerethim, on 14 January 2018 - 01:02 AM, said:

No info from me, except, that WG has begun working on this tank as a premium British tier VI TD the second you posted this :trollface:

Also, it will be impenetrable from the front.

Nah, not impenetrable. As a T6 it will have a frontal armour of ~190mm effective. 

 

Meaning most premium shells of T6 and T7 will pen it with ease while regular will bounce. 

And of course no weakspots. 



lord_chipmonk #7 Posted 14 January 2018 - 05:44 PM

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Second image looks like a Badger. 

leggasiini #8 Posted 14 January 2018 - 05:47 PM

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View Postlord_chipmonk, on 14 January 2018 - 06:44 PM, said:

Second image looks like a Badger. 

 

That's because it actually IS the Badger. The original name of the tank when it entered supertest was FV205.

Tarix819 #9 Posted 14 January 2018 - 05:49 PM

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View Postleggasiini, on 14 January 2018 - 04:47 PM, said:

 

That's because it actually IS the Badger. The original name of the tank when it entered supertest was FV205.

 

Badger is a fake name lol

 

The Badger in WoT is an FV205, with a fake 123mm gun, unhistorical armour values, fake sideskirts (Original FV205 had FV201 sideskirts, not FV214 sideskirts like on the Badger) and to top it off, it is named the FV217 which is a different vehicle.



Tarix819 #10 Posted 14 January 2018 - 05:51 PM

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View Postevilchaosmonkey, on 14 January 2018 - 04:25 PM, said:

Nah, can't be British. 

It has sloped armour and doesn't have any rivets.

 

Tell that to the Chieftain lol

 

And I thought it was the Japanese known for riveting their tanks?


Edited by Tarix819, 14 January 2018 - 05:51 PM.


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Here's an interesting read on it: Overlord's Blog: Taurus Tank destroyer Apparently, it's the result of a 1950 tank design exercise. 

From reading it, it seems there's alot of hidden british designs that never saw the light of day.


Edited by UrQuan, 14 January 2018 - 06:01 PM.


Tarix819 #12 Posted 14 January 2018 - 06:11 PM

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View PostUrQuan, on 14 January 2018 - 05:01 PM, said:

Here's an interesting read on it: Overlord's Blog: Taurus Tank destroyer Apparently, it's the result of a 1950 tank design exercise. 

From reading it, it seems there's alot of hidden british designs that never saw the light of day.

 

That's interesting, thanks for the source!

 

It implies that the various design exercises were named after mythical creatures like 'Taurus' and 'Minotaur', which is quite interesting.

 

It is a shame there is no (None that I can find anyway) information available about the Taurus exercise, as it looks like a very interesting vehicle.

 

Though if it is a 1950 design exercise, it would make sense to be based on the FV214/FV201 chassis, since this was right in the middle of the FV214 Conqueror's development, and only a year after the FV205 proposal.

 

The Minotaur actually reminds me a lot of the P.1000 Ratte project considering the armour, size and weight, even if it is way smaller and lighter.


Edited by Tarix819, 14 January 2018 - 06:15 PM.


lord_chipmonk #13 Posted 14 January 2018 - 08:34 PM

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View Postleggasiini, on 14 January 2018 - 05:47 PM, said:

 

That's because it actually IS the Badger. The original name of the tank when it entered supertest was FV205.

 

View PostTarix819, on 14 January 2018 - 05:49 PM, said:

 

Badger is a fake name lol

 

The Badger in WoT is an FV205, with a fake 123mm gun, unhistorical armour values, fake sideskirts (Original FV205 had FV201 sideskirts, not FV214 sideskirts like on the Badger) and to top it off, it is named the FV217 which is a different vehicle.

 

That would explain it.





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