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Should gold ammo deal less damage than normal rounds?

  1. Yes. (50 votes [54.95%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 54.95%

  2. No. (41 votes [45.05%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 45.05%

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Toni112007 #1 Posted 14 January 2018 - 12:22 PM

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Should gold ammo deal less damage than normal round? Will that fix the gold spam? Or make it less annoying? For example ap round does 390 and gold 290 or sth like that. Do you like this idea?

AliceUnchained #2 Posted 14 January 2018 - 12:29 PM

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@OP: Go read the dozens of threads about the topic of premium ammo and 'suggestions' to fix the perceived, alleged, or non-existent issue associated with it. It's an utterly stupid idea, which has been explained many times in many of the existing threads already.

 

@Moderators; Close these nonsense threads please. We don't need yet another thread about the same topic.



Toni112007 #3 Posted 14 January 2018 - 12:30 PM

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View PostAliceUnchained, on 14 January 2018 - 11:29 AM, said:

@OP: Go read the dozens of threads about the topic of premium ammo and 'suggestions' to fix the perceived, alleged, or non-existent issue associated with it. It's an utterly stupid idea, which has been explained many times in many of the existing threads already.

 

@Moderators; Close these nonsense threads please. We don't need yet another thread about the same topic.

I see you like spamming gold ammo...:D



Toni112007 #4 Posted 14 January 2018 - 12:32 PM

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View PostAliceUnchained, on 14 January 2018 - 11:29 AM, said:

@OP: Go read the dozens of threads about the topic of premium ammo and 'suggestions' to fix the perceived, alleged, or non-existent issue associated with it. It's an utterly stupid idea, which has been explained many times in many of the existing threads already.

 

@Moderators; Close these nonsense threads please. We don't need yet another thread about the same topic.

May I ask why are you even on this forum with such aggressive way of discussion?


Edited by Toni112007, 14 January 2018 - 12:42 PM.


Xqual #5 Posted 14 January 2018 - 12:44 PM

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No.

You should not get credits for dmg done by premium rounds.

That is my take on it.



Toni112007 #6 Posted 14 January 2018 - 12:48 PM

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View PostXqual, on 14 January 2018 - 11:44 AM, said:

No.

You should not get credits for dmg done by premium rounds.

That is my take on it.

Thats also not a bad idea.



Jigabachi #7 Posted 14 January 2018 - 12:56 PM

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Like explained in countless other threads - yes, that would be one option.

Use the search function.

brumbarr #8 Posted 14 January 2018 - 12:57 PM

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No, since that would buff the already  OP armoured tanks.

Noo_Noo #9 Posted 14 January 2018 - 01:00 PM

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View PostXqual, on 14 January 2018 - 12:44 PM, said:

No.

You should not get credits for dmg done by premium rounds.

That is my take on it.

 

I answered no. It basically gives a buff to heavily armoured tanks and with the +2 MM and map design there are often instances where you have little choice. 

 

Premium ammo is already more expensive. if you spam it then you can often not make a profit in that game so I think the  economy of it isn't a 100 miles off. 

 

Fix maps first, then you can look at MM and tank balance before looking at premium ammo. In my mind I dont think its much of a problem in relation to the other issues.



ZeFeKa #10 Posted 14 January 2018 - 01:07 PM

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Maybe that if "OP armored tank" get a buff from it... Maybe they get nerf...?

Maybe we could get rid of this stupid armor layout we got more and more "Gold or GTFO"

Maybe we could have something like Blitz, cheaper gold, less damage, making them a "normal" ammunition... You get a choice of ultra low pen but high damage... normal pen & normal damage... high pen & low damage, used depending of the situation and... AND not askin you "plz sir, just use this ammo and buy premium account and/or premium tank to fund them plz".



vasilinhorulezz #11 Posted 14 January 2018 - 01:23 PM

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View PostNoo_Noo, on 14 January 2018 - 01:00 PM, said:

Fix maps first, then you can look at MM and tank balance before looking at premium ammo.

Pretty much this.

Give proper weakspots (and not 250mm effective armor LFP), design maps with all classes in mind and in relation to this you can rebalance ammo.

Second problem is  Premium tanks, you can't touch the ammo on those, so you direct the game to a more "pay to win" environment. How are they gonna balance those?


Edited by vasilinhorulezz, 14 January 2018 - 01:24 PM.


Toni112007 #12 Posted 14 January 2018 - 01:25 PM

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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 14 January 2018 - 12:23 PM, said:

Pretty much this.

Give proper weakspots (and not 250mm effective armor LFP), design maps with all classes in mind and in relation to this you can rebalance ammo.

Second problem is  Premium tanks, you can't touch the ammo on those, so you direct the game to a more "pay to win" environment. How are they gonna balance those?

I fully agree with this. WG should stop releasing tanks without weakspots at once.



Jigabachi #13 Posted 14 January 2018 - 01:25 PM

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View PostNoo_Noo, on 14 January 2018 - 01:00 PM, said:

Fix maps first, then you can look at MM and tank balance before looking at premium ammo. In my mind I dont think its much of a problem in relation to the other issues.

This! 



Vanezza #14 Posted 14 January 2018 - 01:31 PM

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WG will never change the milk cow. 

AliceUnchained #15 Posted 14 January 2018 - 01:42 PM

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View PostToni112007, on 14 January 2018 - 12:32 PM, said:

May I ask why are you even on this forum with such aggressive way of discussion?

 

Because apparently moderators are fine with it (famous last words). So though luck for you princess.

 

View PostToni112007, on 14 January 2018 - 12:30 PM, said:

I see you like spamming gold ammo...:D

 

I used to, when general chat was still available. Nothing more entertaining than spamming it at gold criers using external MODs (as hit log wasn't available for standard client back then) and make them cry even more. I miss general chat... 

 

Anyway, I think you would surprised to see just how much premium rounds I 'spam'. 

 

View PostToni112007, on 14 January 2018 - 01:43 PM, said:

Oh mr. Einstein is back. Any smart thing to say?

 

You're up first, as you haven't shared any intelligent yet.

 


Edited by AliceUnchained, 14 January 2018 - 01:46 PM.


Toni112007 #16 Posted 14 January 2018 - 01:43 PM

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View PostAliceUnchained, on 14 January 2018 - 12:42 PM, said:

 

Because apparently moderators are fine with it (famous last words). So though luck for you princess.

Oh mr. Einstein is back. Any smart thing to say?



NUKLEAR_SLUG #17 Posted 14 January 2018 - 02:02 PM

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View PostToni112007, on 14 January 2018 - 12:22 PM, said:

Should gold ammo deal less damage than normal round? Will that fix the gold spam? Or make it less annoying? For example ap round does 390 and gold 290 or sth like that. Do you like this idea?

 

If you reduce damage to half what it is now the only result will be twice as much gets fired at you.



AvengerOrion #18 Posted 14 January 2018 - 02:19 PM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 14 January 2018 - 02:02 PM, said:

 

If you reduce damage to half what it is now the only result will be twice as much gets fired at you.

 

Only if you fire gold yourself, otherwise the opponent will be dead before he fired all of the extra ammo.

CptBarney #19 Posted 14 January 2018 - 02:19 PM

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Yes maybe by like 10% or something but make the penetration worth the damage reduction.

 

or just get rid of it and buff standard ammo so thats it's useful again or if wargaming feels like it maybe just nerf various tanks and also change maps so they aren't so linear and boring.

 

that and fixing the match maker so that it doesn't create a huge imbalance on one team especially with heavy and superheavy tanks.



Bucifel #20 Posted 14 January 2018 - 02:25 PM

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YES PLEASE !!! SOME BALANCE

 

that damage should be reduced with same procentual value like penetration is increased !

 

for example:

a tank with 200 standard pen and 250 prem pen have 25% more pen on prem ammo

that means premium ammo damage should be with 25% LESS as compensation

and of course...standardize all prices

 

in that way any tank get proper balance and an equal disadvantage for his pen advantage.

 

so simple fix...but P2W LEADS HERE and why not have advantages "balanced" by...money ! :facepalm:


Edited by Bucifel, 14 January 2018 - 02:37 PM.





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