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TheOneAboveAII #1 Posted 15 January 2018 - 06:32 AM

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2.7k dpm with just 100% crew...and 3.2k dpm with all the things on it...all that on a tier 8 heavy that now has actual armour? Please, put down the cocaine that you are snorting and fix that fuc king dpm! I understand it needed a buff, ok buff it, but BALANCE IT!!! Don't just give it a tier 10 dpm on a tier 8 heavy.

When this thing gets to meet tier 6...it just melts them...kills 4 of them in a minute...it's like a badger vs tier 8 tds...


Edited by TheOneAboveAII, 15 January 2018 - 06:35 AM.


_EXODUZ_ #2 Posted 15 January 2018 - 06:42 AM

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LUL every thread you start has so much butthurt. Why are you still playing this game? Do you realize your rage is pretty much pointless?

 

How about you take a look at this https://tanks.gg/lis...i=8&sh=standard and turn your brain on?

 
 


Sfinski #3 Posted 15 January 2018 - 06:43 AM

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Well, it doesn't really meet t6s though. Bought it back and haven't seen t6 games with it. Even t9 games are rare. T10s are all it sees.

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View Post_EXODUZ_, on 15 January 2018 - 06:42 AM, said:

LUL every thread you start has so much butthurt. Why are you still playing this game? Do you realize your rage is pretty much pointless?

 

How about you take a look at this https://tanks.gg/lis...i=8&sh=standard and turn your brain on?

 
 

Take a look at what? That it has lower dpm than only 5 TURRETLESS TDs? How about you turn your brain on and see that this thing is op.



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How about them winrate curves? 

TheOneAboveAII #6 Posted 15 January 2018 - 06:52 AM

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View PostSfinski, on 15 January 2018 - 06:43 AM, said:

Well, it doesn't really meet t6s though. Bought it back and haven't seen t6 games with it. Even t9 games are rare. T10s are all it sees.

Well it kills 2 other tier 8 heavies in a minute, happy with that?



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View PostTheOneAboveAII, on 15 January 2018 - 06:50 AM, said:

Take a look at what? That it has lower dpm than only 5 TURRETLESS TDs? How about you turn your brain on and see that this thing is op.

 

How about Rhm. with it's awesome camo?

Bwahahah Defender owner crying about Caernarvon. Nuff said. :teethhappy:



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View PostSfinski, on 15 January 2018 - 06:51 AM, said:

How about them winrate curves? 

 



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Go ahead, grind it out, try it. Pretty sure you're gonna have a crappy DPG like most of your tanks. :teethhappy:

 



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View Post_EXODUZ_, on 15 January 2018 - 07:02 AM, said:

Go ahead, grind it out, try it. Pretty sure you're gonna have a crappy DPG like most of your tanks. :teethhappy:

 

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View PostTheOneAboveAII, on 15 January 2018 - 07:06 AM, said:

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Hahaha, smart reply. 


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TankkiPoju #12 Posted 15 January 2018 - 07:18 AM

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WG will nerf it eventually... after enough people have grinded it.

 

Srsly, it is too strong now, the DPM is way too high for that alpha. The only thing stopping it is the MM, but the MM is same for all tier 8s.



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It is not retardproof like Defender, VK 100 or Jap HTs, so it isnt all that much stronger in bot's hands (though one yoloing you can be annoying because it can take so much HP off from you in a short period) than an average tier 8 HT, but if one knows as simple trick as hiding LFP, the tank becomes utterly retarded monster.

 

There are some super unis from Wotlabs forums who have more than 3k raw DPG with it. It has absolutely ridiculous potential with that DPM.

 

Tier 10 MM hurts it, but that is the case with every tier 8 HT, the infamous Defender and VK 100, and because of that DPM it can actually be a threat even for tier 10s, as long as it is capable of penning them.


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Gremlin182 #14 Posted 15 January 2018 - 07:39 AM

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Seriously doubt complaining does that much taking action based on a forum post or even say 10 forum posts is not a sensible way to decide on changes to make.

I recon its all down to how the tank is performing, and they have all that as evidence its how they balance everything.

Ok posting may make them take a closer look but unless the stats back you up little if anything will happen.

That's the whole point about all the re-balancing nerf those over performing buff those under performing then do it again till you have worked your way through all the tanks in the game.

 

Then start again because every change you make changes the entire game same for new tanks added to the game and on that note we get to premium tanks and those considered overpowered.

They no longer release premium tanks that are weaker than standard tanks and there is little point adding a new tank to the game thats about the same power as one already in the game.

IS6 IS3a Defender all tier 8 premiums but with each new version they got a little better.

There would be no reason to buy the new premium for cash when you could get a tank just as good for gold and on a discount.

 

 



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Yes, it's too good, but will you shut up now. It's supposed to be a secret and I want to enjoy mine at least few more patches before they ruin it.

Ceeb #16 Posted 15 January 2018 - 08:35 AM

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Caen isn't OP ...ffs. its only strong while Hull Down, and about freaking time, its lower plate is trash. sides are trash. its slower than and IS3. bigger than a freaking house has a flaky Ammo rack and even has a boiler for making tea.
 
Everyday its Nerf this nerf that before long you have tanks that are different in modelling but have the same generic stats.
 
However, I love mine and will pick it over an IS3/Defender every time , even though I have a 61% WR in my 252
 
So far since the beginning of December on these forums there has been
 
Nerf the  <Insert tank>
 
Defender/252
Type 4/5
Tier 10 lights
Caen
Sabbaton
S1.
907
E25
Type 59 *yes I laughed at that one*
Mauchen
Vk10001p
Lorr 40t
 
And those are the one I can remember. Caen isn't OP, just a competitive tank at Tier 8
 
 
 
 


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View PostCeeb, on 15 January 2018 - 08:35 AM, said:

Caen isn't OP ...ffs. its only strong while Hull Down, and about freaking time, its lower plate is trash. sides are trash. its slower than and IS3. bigger than a freaking house has a flaky Ammo rack and even has a boiler for making tea.
 
Everyday its Nerf this nerf that before long you have tanks that are different in modelling but have the same generic stats.
 
However, I love mine and will pick it over an IS3/Defender every time , even though I have a 61% WR in my 252
 
So far since the beginning of December on these forums there has been
 
Nerf the 
 
Defender/252
Type 4/5
Tier 10 lights
Caen
Sabbaton
S1.
907
E25
Type 59 *yes I laughed at that one*
Mauchen
Vk10001p
Lorr 40t
 
And those are the one I can remember. Caen isn't OP, just a competitive tank at Tier 8
 
 
 
 

Nerf tier 10 lights? Nerf primo? Nerf s1? Those are ok...actually the light tanks could use some buff...but caer is op...nerf that dpm it will be fine...3.2k dpm on full tier 8 ht is way too much. 2.5k with 280 alpha would be ok...that would be like a shot every 6.7s instead of 280 alpha every 5.2s which is ridiculous...might as well just give it 320 alpha with 5.2s reload and call it a tier 10 russian med and that's it



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View Post_EXODUZ_, on 15 January 2018 - 07:02 AM, said:

Go ahead, grind it out, try it. Pretty sure you're gonna have a crappy DPG like most of your tanks. :teethhappy:

 

 

wow, 1500 DPG in a Skorpion G. And I thought S4LT was some smurf pro clan....guess not 

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 15 January 2018 - 07:18 AM, said:

WG will nerf it eventually... after enough people have grinded it.

 

Srsly, it is too strong now, the DPM is way too high for that alpha. The only thing stopping it is the MM, but the MM is same for all tier 8s.

 

It's strong in the right hands as top tier indeed now. As then it's not uncommon to see it doing 3K damage in a strong players hands. But in a tier 9/X game it's not that strong, even with the DPM. And in the hands of your more lesser average Joe that you mostly see in them. They don't do better then most. And like the Foch B, the bandwagon left early. As I've seen less and less of them. And it's stats and overall WR has hardly gone up since it's buffs. It's still the 3rd worst tier 8 HT on EU on WR. And it was in the top 1 spot on most played on wot news after the buffs. Now it's barely is in front of the IS-6.

 

So I doubt WG will do anything with it soon. As it's... not really over preforming vs before. Because it if was really past broken or OP. I suspect we would see more people complain about it. And since we hardly see one topic a month. I suspect WG sees even less of a reason to take action. As unlike the Defender that they removed, that had 5 topics a day. 



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The Caernarvon is fine as it is, there has to be variety in the game and if one tank is a bit better than another we should all be thankful for having variety while still knowing it won't last anyway. With new Soviet heavy's coming soon, a new French heavy line that is just underway, it's just a little bit whiny wanting to nerf something that has been begging for a buff for years. 




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