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Unangwata #1 Posted 16 January 2018 - 07:48 PM

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I was looking for tier 8 medium with good turret and decent firepower. The only I found are the Centurion and FV4202. Some chinesse have decent turret but low penetration, also worse depression, so no. FV4202 seems to have weaker turret, especially forehead above the gun so Centurion I seems better option. But I have to grind it.

I don't recall seeing much of these tanks, is there a catch ?



Noo_Noo #2 Posted 16 January 2018 - 07:54 PM

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I'm at the Centurion 1 now. It's not bad, not great but not bad. 

 

If you get it into its environment which is a hull down position where it can use its gun depression and hide its hull and have everything in front of it then it works. Take it out of that environment and I personally struggle with it. I also fine the penetration a little lacklustre at times as well as the shell velocity but perhaps someone else could share their thoughts on that.

 

Plus does anyone thing that the Alpha for tier 8 mediums just sucks?


Edited by Noo_Noo, 16 January 2018 - 08:00 PM.


TheDrownedApe #3 Posted 16 January 2018 - 07:59 PM

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If only you had spent 30 sec going to the right place

 

http://forum.worldof...t-underpowered/

 

read page 3

 

http://forum.worldof...-p-impressions/

 

read last couple of pages


Edited by Dr_ownape, 16 January 2018 - 08:00 PM.


SuedKAT #4 Posted 16 January 2018 - 08:17 PM

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Now after they've been buffed they are decent, they used to be rather bad before. They basically have their turret, gun depression and good pen, but the rest is at best decent.

tank276 #5 Posted 16 January 2018 - 09:16 PM

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It must be years ago I grinded that but I bought the Primo Victoria fairly recently, which is essentialy the same thing (with a Swedish crew instead of British).

It is not bad at all, considering the generaly bad position tier 8 meds are into with the MM these days.



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Cent 1 is meh, better meds around tbh

Thuis001 #7 Posted 16 January 2018 - 10:06 PM

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it is fairly nice, but the gun is kinda quirky. Would be very nice if they made it more historical accurate and actually gave it the real life gun stabs it had when you get the top turret and gun. (this is different from the vstabs you currently have, as this gun had NO dispersion values anymore as the gun was always exactly on target even when moving at top speed, exept of course when that was above or below the gun limitations)

besides that.

Armor: good turret (until they spam da gold), horrid hull, large.

Gun: bad dmg, mediocre DPM at best (barely 2.1k with rammer and 100% crew), fairly accurate (but I would love them to add that actual stabilizer.) amazing pen (barely need any gold, mainly because it is not that much better) fast shells with 1020m/s

Mobility: decent, can get up to it's topspeed (wich is decent enough) 

rest: Good viewrange, this thing bests some lights, and can get up to that 445 easely with optics. Shells are stupidly expensive though (which idiot thought 680 credits for 230 alpha is good, when the Patriot gets 255 for 240 dmg, and better pen) Also the Centurion weighs almost 50 tonnes, which is very nice. You can pull of rams, and should try to bait lighter tanks (like Russian meds) to ram you sometime in the future. So don't ram it in another tank. 

 

to be honest I think the worst thing about this tank is the fact that it's stupid ammorack gets knocked out with EVERY shot you take to the frontal hull... which means that you are ammoracked often (and tanks can detrack and dmg your ammorack at the same time.) Edit: I just took a look at WoTinfo, and the ENTIRE front left quarter of the hull is an ammorack. (which tank designer came up with that clearly hasn't thought about an actual combat situation...)


Edited by Thuis001, 16 January 2018 - 10:10 PM.


vasilinhorulezz #8 Posted 16 January 2018 - 10:21 PM

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I liked the tank when I had it, but it's got some issues,

- it's a one-trick pony, go hull down or GTFO (the most major one)

- frontal ammo-rack, in combination with really bad hull armor (it gets a lot of damage by arty)

- and the shells are expensive for the caliber (don't expect to make profit even in good games)

- lowest alpha

 

But, it gets the best penetration of off t8 mediums, has a pretty thick turret and -10 depression, and can work ridge lines pretty well, and bounce even higher tier guns.



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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 16 January 2018 - 10:21 PM, said:

I liked the tank when I had it, but it's got some issues,

- it's a one-trick pony, go hull down or GTFO (the most major one)

- frontal ammo-rack, in combination with really bad hull armor (it gets a lot of damage by arty)

- and the shells are expensive for the caliber (don't expect to make profit even in good games)

- lowest alpha

 

But, it gets the best penetration of off t8 mediums, has a pretty thick turret and -10 depression, and can work ridge lines pretty well, and bounce even higher tier guns.

Lowest alpha ? It has 250, that is the standard for T8 mediums. Imo is a very good tank. Heavy tank penetration level with heavly armored turret.



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View PostMeNoobTank, on 17 January 2018 - 12:15 AM, said:

Lowest alpha ? It has 250, that is the standard for T8 mediums. Imo is a very good tank. Heavy tank penetration level with heavly armored turret.

We're on about the Centurion 1 here, which gets 230 alpha.



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View PostMeNoobTank, on 17 January 2018 - 12:15 AM, said:

Lowest alpha ? It has 250, that is the standard for T8 mediums. Imo is a very good tank. Heavy tank penetration level with heavly armored turret.

 

The Cent I, FV4202, P:Victoria, Strv 81 all have 230 alpha, they are the 4 lowest alpha MT's at tier 8, they also have quite low DPM, the FV4202 especially. They are decent at best, in many situations your better of in another tier 8 MT.

Edited by SuedKAT, 17 January 2018 - 12:45 AM.


ZlatanArKung #12 Posted 17 January 2018 - 12:47 AM

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View PostMeNoobTank, on 17 January 2018 - 12:15 AM, said:

Lowest alpha ? It has 250, that is the standard for T8 mediums. Imo is a very good tank. Heavy tank penetration level with heavly armored turret.

Ehhh??? No.

You are wrong on both accounts.

 

1: Cent 1 have 230 alpha.

2: Standard T8 medium alpha is 240.

Only the T-44, T-44-100, T-34-2, T-34-3, Cent 1, FV4202, Revalorise, Lorraine 40t and Obj 416, TVP VTU have different alpha.

And only T-44, T-44-100 and T-34-2 have 250.

 

240 is alpha of: Panther 88, Panther II, Indien Pz, Indien Panzer premium, Pershing, T69, Kr Patton, Type-59 Patton thing, TVP VTU, STA-1, STA-2, Chieftain/T95, T25 Pilot, AMX CDC.

 

It have good pen and decent turret armour though. 

But turret gets penned by premium T8 fairly easy.


Edited by ZlatanArKung, 17 January 2018 - 01:53 AM.


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View PostSchemezoid, on 16 January 2018 - 08:19 PM, said:

Cent 1 is meh, better meds around tbh

 

1) Not if you're grinding the Medium Brit line

2) It's better than Meh!

 



Unangwata #14 Posted 17 January 2018 - 02:23 PM

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View PostSchemezoid, on 16 January 2018 - 09:19 PM, said:

Cent 1 is meh, better meds around tbh

 

Like what ? Sorry but playing tier 8 medium without turret armor is meh.. could aswell play tier 6.

Edited by Unangwata, 17 January 2018 - 02:25 PM.


vasilinhorulezz #15 Posted 17 January 2018 - 08:55 PM

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View PostMeNoobTank, on 17 January 2018 - 12:15 AM, said:

Lowest alpha ? It has 250, that is the standard for T8 mediums. Imo is a very good tank. Heavy tank penetration level with heavly armored turret.

 

t 44 250 alpha

persing 240

Centurion 230.

250>230 according to math.






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