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Should Jagdtiger 8.8 get optional 10,5 cm Kw.K. L/68?


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Should Jagdtiger 8.8 get 10,5 cm Kw.K. L/68?

  1. Yes (33 votes [38.37%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 38.37%

  2. No (29 votes [33.72%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 33.72%

  3. Buff existing one instead! (24 votes [27.91%] - View)

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Toni112007 #1 Posted 18 January 2018 - 02:03 AM

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In WOT Blitz Jagdtiger 8.8 has the optional 105 mm gun which is that of Tiger II (225mm penetration) with a better rof. Should PC version one get it as well? or should gun it has now be buffed instead? Share your opinions. 



TheOneAboveAII #2 Posted 18 January 2018 - 02:10 AM

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No it should not get it...because it has pref matchmaking...that's why it has that gun...if you give it a 105 you need to give it the 105 from the kannonenjagdpanzer 105 and remove it's pref mm.

Balc0ra #3 Posted 18 January 2018 - 02:16 AM

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In Blitz all tanks has +1. So it makes no difference. Here the 88 gives it +1.

 

Then again the IS-6 there has the Defender gun more or less. Still nothing here. But again, Blitz has +1 anyway due to the team sizes and map sizes etc. So there it don't matter. But since WG sees pref MM tanks as a problem and wants to buff the IS-6 to +2 MM and a gun that works for it. You never know.


Edited by Balc0ra, 18 January 2018 - 02:16 AM.


Homer_J #4 Posted 18 January 2018 - 03:22 AM

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View PostToni112007, on 18 January 2018 - 01:03 AM, said:

In WOT Blitz  

We don't want any WoT Blitz retarded ideas here thanks.



K_A #5 Posted 18 January 2018 - 04:18 AM

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Jpanther's 105 would work with the pref mm idea and give the tank at least some punch.

Laur_Balaur_XD #6 Posted 18 January 2018 - 05:24 AM

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You realize why is it called Jagdtiger 8.8 ?

Makotti #7 Posted 18 January 2018 - 06:55 AM

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View PostIulian_ro, on 18 January 2018 - 06:24 AM, said:

You realize why is it called Jagdtiger 8.8 ?

 

Yes, but I guess buffing the existing gun would be rather hard 'cause same gun is in quite many german vehicles. And gun buff is it what it needs, at the moment it's quite useless when facing newer heavies.

leggasiini #8 Posted 18 January 2018 - 07:44 AM

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View PostMakotti, on 18 January 2018 - 07:55 AM, said:

 

Yes, but I guess buffing the existing gun would be rather hard 'cause same gun is in quite many german vehicles.

 

Well WG has recently sabotaged the pen values of the same guns on different tanks so its possible. For example, the AMX 65t, AMX 50 B and the AMX M4 54 should all have the same 120 mm gun, yet the 65t has 216 pen, 50 B bit below 260 pen, and the M4 54 has 264 pen.

 

Or by swapping ammo types around. Give JT 88 standard APCR with 230ish pen and gold APCR with 260-270 pen.

 

That and probably a HP buff if needed would be approtiate buffs for it


Edited by leggasiini, 18 January 2018 - 07:45 AM.


Mr_Beefy #9 Posted 18 January 2018 - 07:50 AM

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Seriously, the best plan for all pref mm tanks is to buff their guns, and then remove the pref mm.

IS6 with BL9 would be magnificent.

JG88 with 105mm L7 would be OM NUM NUM.

KV5 with KV4's top gun and a retarded buff to R2D2 (or a removal of R2D2 from hitbox like the T29 Turret Ear's were removed) would be awesome.

112/WZ111 with 110's 100mm gun.

Super Pershing reclassified as an HT, with a 220 AP/280 APCR.

 

And so on, ez peazy.



snuble #10 Posted 18 January 2018 - 08:02 AM

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I dont understand why this tank is considere weak.

Mr_Beefy #11 Posted 18 January 2018 - 08:06 AM

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View Postsnuble, on 18 January 2018 - 09:02 AM, said:

I dont understand why this tank is considere weak.

 

​It earns like a broken ATM machine.  Shells are so cheap (standard shells that is)

Zend17 #12 Posted 18 January 2018 - 08:10 AM

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I'd be fine with its 88mm with apcr as standard and an armour buff for its frontal hull so that 50% of the front isn't easy pen for some of these new tanks while keeping the machine gun port and lfp weakspots just not as weak as they are atm

ZlatanArKung #13 Posted 18 January 2018 - 08:18 AM

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View Postsnuble, on 18 January 2018 - 08:02 AM, said:

I dont understand why this tank is considere weak.

It is weak because it is

Slow and unagile.

Only armour on super structure.

Gun is meh.



Cobra6 #14 Posted 18 January 2018 - 08:48 AM

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It either needs this gun *OR* buff the pen of the standard 88 ammo to 230 and the premium pen to 260/270 while maintaining the current RoF/DPM and gun stats.

 

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Tinbawx #15 Posted 18 January 2018 - 08:53 AM

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View PostZend17, on 18 January 2018 - 08:10 AM, said:

I'd be fine with its 88mm with apcr as standard and an armour buff for its frontal hull so that 50% of the front isn't easy pen for some of these new tanks while keeping the machine gun port and lfp weakspots just not as weak as they are atm

 

The funny thing is that JT88 still has a stronger lfp than than the regular JT and the Tiger II because as a premium tank it didn´t get nerfed along with them.

 

Not sure what WG should do. As long as they keep powercreeping the game and also trying to stick to historical values, when they arbitratrily decide that that´s what they want to do in case of this or that particular tank, at the same time, what solution is there really?  Maybe stamp an expiration date on the tank somewhere like they do with canned food. Imagine the FCM 50t had a big "best before 2016" stamped on its side. Everyone would have known and nobody would have batted an eye :trollface:.



SovietBias #16 Posted 18 January 2018 - 09:31 AM

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It should get the 128 instead. That is, the Jagdtiger (H) that was leaked some time ago and never was released.

Edited by SovietBias, 18 January 2018 - 09:32 AM.


Thejagdpanther #17 Posted 18 January 2018 - 09:33 AM

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No. It's called Jt"88" for a reason.

This... "thing", as wrote on the other topic, need for me one of the follows

 

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the first +0MM tier 8 (with maybe some adjustment - it's pretty extreme but the opness of some tier 8 prem is also extreme - it could be a solution for also the other +1 mm tier 8 like kv5 and is6, also with some adjustments)

or

massively increase the credit income (it will keep suk ballz but at least the cashflow relieve the stress of being useless in a lot of battles) shells are cheap but if you dont do damage for obvious reasons you don't earn any credit

or

increase the HP like maybe the old jtiger tier 9 to 1800 (again not a big change but at least you can extend the agony and shoot some more rounds)

 

 


Edited by Thejagdpanther, 18 January 2018 - 09:36 AM.


tajj7 #18 Posted 18 January 2018 - 09:41 AM

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Swapping about the standard pen for the current APCR and then giving it a better APCR would probably help. Current APCR on the long 88 is 237, that is still sub-par for a tier 8 TD so still fits with the limited MM.

 

I mean Patriot has 230 pen, Lorraine has 232 etc. there are regular mediums and heavies with way more pen than the Jt88.

 

Changing the gun would be silly, as it's the Jt88. 


You also can't do much with the amour either, and as someone above said it's actually better than the Tiger 2 and tier Jagtiger.

 

I'd go for -

 

  • Standard 237mm APCR pen, with 260 premium APCR. 
  • Buff the HP to 1600/1700 maybe.
  • Buff the ground resistances so it can hit that 38 kph top speed. 

 

So how it is after those changes. 



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View PostMr_Beefy, on 18 January 2018 - 07:50 AM, said:

JG88 with 105mm L7 would be OM NUM NUM.

 

Bundeswehr secret projekt :trollface:

Toni112007 #20 Posted 18 January 2018 - 11:12 AM

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View PostIulian_ro, on 18 January 2018 - 04:24 AM, said:

You realize why is it called Jagdtiger 8.8 ?

SU-100 is called "100" but it has 122mm?






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