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ZlatanArKung #1 Posted 18 January 2018 - 12:55 PM

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T71 DA is a strong T7 light.

Performs about as good as LTG.

Better slightly better then WZ.

SPIC is the worst T7 light together with CMCD.

 

So in no way overpowered.

The Type 62 performs best among T7 light.

 

All T7 lights should be as powerful as T71 DA.



tajj7 #2 Posted 18 January 2018 - 12:59 PM

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Alright, no need to shout though. :P

 

Loads of tanks that people think are OP but the WR curves and other stats show aren't. Like the Skorpion G, Patriot, Bat Chat etc. 

 

Seems to happen a lot with the high skill floor tanks, that people get outplayed by said tank with good player and call the tank OP, but then if they played it themselves they would suck in it. 



ederfe #3 Posted 18 January 2018 - 01:02 PM

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This is my light tank. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

My T71DA is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.

Without me, my T71DA is useless. Without my T71DA, I am useless. I must fire my gun true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. MY T71DA IS NOT OP.

 

(I don't have one)


Edited by ederfe, 18 January 2018 - 01:03 PM.


Bora_BOOM #4 Posted 18 January 2018 - 01:11 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 18 January 2018 - 11:59 AM, said:

Alright, no need to shout though. :P

 

Loads of tanks that people think are OP but the WR curves and other stats show aren't. Like the Skorpion G, Patriot, Bat Chat etc. 

 

Seems to happen a lot with the high skill floor tanks, that people get outplayed by said tank with good player and call the tank OP, but then if they played it themselves they would suck in it. 

 

Played it only 8 games in last 3 months. Purple WN8. That makes me a good player, da? :trollface:

TankkiPoju #5 Posted 18 January 2018 - 01:14 PM

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6 * 150 = 900 clip potential in tier 7. Under 20 second clip reload.

 

Which means it can clip two tier 5 medium tanks with any luck. Imagine if Batchat 25t could clip two tier 8 medium tanks. And reload in 20 seconds.

 

No no dude, its like totally balanced.


Edited by TankkiPoju, 18 January 2018 - 01:16 PM.


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View Postederfe, on 18 January 2018 - 01:02 PM, said:

This is my light tank. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

My T71DA is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.

Without me, my T71DA is useless. Without my T71DA, I am useless. I must fire my gun true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. MY T71DA IS NOT OP.

 

(I don't have one)

 



Bora_BOOM #7 Posted 18 January 2018 - 01:23 PM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 18 January 2018 - 12:14 PM, said:

6 * 150 = 900 clip potential in tier 7. Under 20 second clip reload.

 

Which means it can clip two tier 5 medium tanks with any luck. Imagine if Batchat 25t could clip two tier 8 medium tanks. And reload in 20 seconds.

 

No no dude, its like totally balanced.

 

 



alienslive #8 Posted 18 January 2018 - 01:34 PM

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13 75 works better for me. 

 

Lower profile, faster, better gun handling...

 


Edited by alienslive, 18 January 2018 - 01:35 PM.


MattieW #9 Posted 18 January 2018 - 01:36 PM

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Nerfing the SPIC is one of the worst crimes WG committed to LT :(

Graeme0 #10 Posted 18 January 2018 - 01:39 PM

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Just started playing mine. I think it's a good tank but not OP.  I think using an example of a T7 light clipping a T5 tank is not very helpful. 

 

I think (like the bat chat T67 etc) if you are a good player you can make the tank shine. That's not an OP tank, justbthe same as russian heavies on city maps do not suddenlt become OP, just playing in their niche



TheOneAboveAII #11 Posted 18 January 2018 - 01:40 PM

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Sure buddy...and 907 is underpowered and needs another massive buff...defender has weak armour and needs 300 of lfp armour...udes and s1 have bad pen and need another 100mm of pen on top of what they have now...also 30% more cammo...we can keep on going...

8126Jakobsson #12 Posted 18 January 2018 - 01:46 PM

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Where did this come from? Have someone on the forums cried about a standard light being OP? After the MM and LT overhaul? I'll fight that guy.  

ZlatanArKung #13 Posted 18 January 2018 - 01:48 PM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 18 January 2018 - 01:14 PM, said:

6 * 150 = 900 clip potential in tier 7. Under 20 second clip reload.

 

Which means it can clip two tier 5 medium tanks with any luck. Imagine if Batchat 25t could clip two tier 8 medium tanks. And reload in 20 seconds.

 

No no dude, its like totally balanced.

And the FV215B 183 can 1-shot same tiered tanks.

KV-2 aswell.

 

Doesn't make then OP.



50/51 can clip a T8 light in like 4.5 seconds. OP aswell?
 

TankkiPoju #14 Posted 18 January 2018 - 01:53 PM

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View PostGraeme0, on 18 January 2018 - 01:39 PM, said:

Just started playing mine. I think it's a good tank but not OP.  I think using an example of a T7 light clipping a T5 tank is not very helpful. 

 

Well, maybe the tank just isn't for you :hiding:

 

Or any light tank, to be honest.



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View PostZlatanArKung, on 18 January 2018 - 11:55 AM, said:

T71 DA is a strong T7 light.

Performs about as good as LTG.

Better slightly better then WZ.

SPIC is the worst T7 light together with CMCD.

 

So in no way overpowered.

The Type 62 performs best among T7 light.

 

All T7 lights should be as powerful as T71 DA.

Is that right? Am playing the ltg and wz 131 atm and i prefer the wz personally. Only thing i like more on the ltg is being able to get alongside heavies and get under their gun.



TankkiPoju #16 Posted 18 January 2018 - 01:59 PM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 18 January 2018 - 01:50 PM, said:

50/51 can clip a T8 light in like 4.5 seconds. OP aswell?

 

But it can't miss a single shell, and the light tank can chase 50/51.

 

No tier 5 medium tank can chase T71 DA down, and DA can afford to miss 2-3 shots. And DA has even camo advantage.



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View Postdivsmo, on 18 January 2018 - 01:54 PM, said:

Is that right? Am playing the ltg and wz 131 atm and i prefer the wz personally. Only thing i like more on the ltg is being able to get alongside heavies and get under their gun.

If you are the standard WOT player of your Winrate, then you will win a bit more in LTG then WZ-131.

But there are of course differences.

 

View PostTankkiPoju, on 18 January 2018 - 01:59 PM, said:

 

But it can't miss a single shell, and the light tank can chase 50/51.

 

No tier 5 medium tank can chase T71 DA down, and DA can afford to miss 2-3 shots. And DA has even camo advantage.

Chase down...

Ye, only possible if you are face hugging each other. At longer distance impossible due to short reload of 50/51 combined with its speed.

 

Btw, KV-2 can 1-shot T71 DA. It is a T6 tank that can 1-shot a T7 tank.

KV-2 obviously overpowered aswell.

 

And all T7 lights can chase down and kill a T5 with ease, in fact, even easier in a WZ-131 and LTG since those can kill multiple T5 tanks due to not having an auto-loader.


 

Edited by Daxeno, 18 January 2018 - 04:50 PM.


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View PostTankkiPoju, on 18 January 2018 - 01:59 PM, said:

 

But it can't miss a single shell, and the light tank can chase 50/51.

 

No tier 5 medium tank can chase T71 DA down, and DA can afford to miss 2-3 shots. And DA has even camo advantage.

 

agree on this one.

I also consider t71 OP.

Loved the tank.
Gonna buy it back, to have tier7 in garage for platoons, because i finished all my lower tier grinds, have only few tier9 + ac 48 to grind. not gonna grind tier7 for a long time.
also have 2 spare females from last event.

I love t71. you clip lower tiers really fast. and i like how flexible it is. you can reload whenever you want, because of that short reload. something like skodat50.

also, viewrange + camo combo is as deadly as that autoloader gun...

390 base, + you cant mount rammer, so it is almost 400base? (in my book, vents are considered as logical thing for that tank)..

i will keep playing it. but i would vote for nerf, today.


Edited by Igor_BL, 18 January 2018 - 02:42 PM.


tajj7 #19 Posted 18 January 2018 - 02:41 PM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 18 January 2018 - 12:14 PM, said:

6 * 150 = 900 clip potential in tier 7. Under 20 second clip reload.

 

Which means it can clip two tier 5 medium tanks with any luck. Imagine if Batchat 25t could clip two tier 8 medium tanks. And reload in 20 seconds.

 

No no dude, its like totally balanced.

 

It is basically a Bat Chat.  The fact it can potentially clip two tier 5 meds has nothing to do with the T71 but shows that many tier 5 meds HP is too low.  A T-34-100 can two shot a tier 5 med in 6.7s, the time it takes a T71 to do 600 damage, and the T-34-100 can go two shot another tier 5 med without needing a 20s reload. 

 

Tier 5 medium HP to tier 6 medium HP in many cases jumps by 40%, wherease a tier 8 med only has about 12% less HP than a tier 9 med. 

 

The ISU can one shot every tier 6 med, it doesn't need luck either that is not OP. 

 

You do also realise the IS and IS2 can one shot many tier 5 meds as well. 

 

T71 is not OP, WR curves show that. 


Edited by tajj7, 18 January 2018 - 02:43 PM.


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View Posttajj7, on 18 January 2018 - 02:41 PM, said:

 

It is basically a Bat Chat.  The fact it can potentially clip two tier 5 meds has nothing to do with the T71 but shows that many tier 5 meds HP is too low.  A T-34-100 can two shot a tier 5 med in 6.7s, the time it takes a T71 to do 600 damage, and the T-34-100 can go two shot another tier 5 med without needing a 20s reload. 

 

Tier 5 medium HP to tier 6 medium HP in many cases jumps by 40%, wherease a tier 8 med only has about 12% less HP than a tier 9 med. 

 

The ISU can one shot every tier 6 med, it doesn't need luck either that is not OP. 

 

You do also realise the IS and IS2 can one shot many tier 5 meds as well. 

 

T71 is not OP, WR curves show that. 

Sure buddy...not op...let's go past tier 5...t71 da...can clip any tier 6...apart from tog...but hey...it's balanced...right? T71 da can clip all other tier 7 lights....but is balanced...right? Gimme a break with your wr curves...if you can go in playing like a monkey and just auto aim at another same tier same class tank and anihilate it with him being able to just shoot you once...maximum twice and not being able to run from you...because...duh...you are in a light tank....then it is op...i don't give a monkey that you have to wait another 20s to reload....you are in a light tank...you just run and hide after something or just run around and make it hard for them to hit you...and after just 20s...boom...ready to anihilate another tier 7 light or cripple most tier 7 tanks or destroy any tier 6 and below.






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