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Mr_Beefy #1 Posted 19 January 2018 - 05:31 PM

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IS-M New tier 8 HT.  

 

Stock gun = Gun from IS-6.

""Elite"" gun = 212 pen std ammo, 240 pen Prem Shell.

How is that tank supposed to manage in it's role?  Lemme guess, it's supposed to flank as well?  How is that tank supposed to pen Type 4, Type 5, VK45B, E75, STI, IS4, IS7, IS-M, 705, Maus, PZ VII, Jageroo, Badger, and the host of other T8-10 tanks with which 240 APCR is insufficient?

You need 270 pen in order to pen the weak spots on anime tanks.

A Maus that angles properly AND not properly is impossible to pen frontally.

 

I guess that tank is for pain and suffering unless you have 200K FXP lying around.  



Mr_Beefy #2 Posted 19 January 2018 - 05:34 PM

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Obj 430, new t9 MT.

238/248 pen.

 

Totally ridiculous.



Sfinski #3 Posted 19 January 2018 - 05:38 PM

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View PostMr_Beefy, on 19 January 2018 - 06:34 PM, said:

Obj 430, new t9 MT.

238/248 pen.

 

Totally ridiculous.

 

I actually like that. Best of the "new" tanks for sure. 

Mr_Beefy #4 Posted 19 January 2018 - 05:41 PM

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View PostSfinski, on 19 January 2018 - 06:38 PM, said:

 

I actually like that. Best of the "new" tanks for sure. 

 

​Tank is good to drive.  But the pen!!!!!

Laatikkomafia #5 Posted 19 January 2018 - 05:43 PM

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Exozen #6 Posted 19 January 2018 - 05:44 PM

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View PostMr_Beefy, on 19 January 2018 - 04:34 PM, said:

Obj 430, new t9 MT.

238/248 pen.

 

Totally ridiculous.

 

Honestly how premim ammo should work on all tanks in the game. They should not give more then 10-15% higher pen.

 

Edit : Obviously doesnt work in practice now with all armor powercreap but one can hope for a propper balance update one day.


Edited by Exozen, 19 January 2018 - 05:45 PM.


Jumping_Turtle #7 Posted 19 January 2018 - 05:49 PM

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View PostMr_Beefy, on 19 January 2018 - 05:34 PM, said:

Obj 430, new t9 MT.

238/248 pen.

 

Totally ridiculous.

 

Standard pen is a lot better than a lot of the current tier 9's. The just 10 'upgrade' is a very little higher and not so worth indeed.

Mr_Beefy #8 Posted 19 January 2018 - 05:52 PM

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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 19 January 2018 - 06:49 PM, said:

 

Standard pen is a lot better than a lot of the current tier 9's. The just 10 'upgrade' is a very little higher and not so worth indeed.

 

​What it will encourage is pressing 2 anyway, since better to have 248 then 238.

 

 



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View PostLaatikkomafia, on 19 January 2018 - 05:43 PM, said:

T32 would like to have a word with you.

 

KV-5 says hi!

Balc0ra #10 Posted 19 January 2018 - 06:00 PM

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View PostMr_Beefy, on 19 January 2018 - 05:34 PM, said:

Obj 430, new t9 MT.

238/248 pen.

 

Totally ridiculous.

 

So it should have 201 or 219 then like the other Russian tier 9 med? Cent 7/1 have 268. 248 is is more or less common on most of them. And with that alpha and caliber. I'm not sure 340 gold pen would make most use... less gold ammo on it. And if the pen is that little in difference? Would you rage less if he gold spammed you if he had 340 heat pen?

 

View PostMr_Beefy, on 19 January 2018 - 05:31 PM, said:

IS-M New tier 8 HT.  

 

Stock gun = Gun from IS-6.

""Elite"" gun = 212 pen std ammo, 240 pen Prem Shell.

 

You need 270 pen in order to pen the weak spots on anime tanks.

 

T32 manages with 198. The VK 4502 has 200 flat. And he don't even have armor as such. Emil has 217, AMX 65t runs with 218. None of them have 270 gold pen even. Most of them are in the 240 to 250 area on gold ammo. Some of the old timers are on 260ish. None of them are on 270 either. And they still... manage to work.

 

 


Edited by Balc0ra, 19 January 2018 - 06:02 PM.


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The IS-M stock gun is pretty standard for russian HT's tbh. KV-4, IS-3 & even the ST-I start with that gun. So at least, the IS-M offers no shortcut to the russian HT grind there. 

This is also why free XP exists, to save up to buy a better gun. Don't use it to unlock tanks, use it to unlock modules, so you start with a better tank.



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View PostMr_Beefy, on 19 January 2018 - 05:52 PM, said:

 

​What it will encourage is pressing 2 anyway, since better to have 248 then 238.

 

 

 

I doubt that if it costs 15 times as much. 5000 extra credits for 10 extra pen isnt worth it.

Laatikkomafia #13 Posted 19 January 2018 - 09:33 PM

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View Postclixor, on 19 January 2018 - 06:52 PM, said:

 

KV-5 says hi!

 

It has limited MM :trollface:

Solexi #14 Posted 19 January 2018 - 09:42 PM

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Playing a few games with a painful stock gun is one thing but 42,000 xp required for a still barely adequate gun is ridiculous. This looks to be one of the most painful grinds in the game and I don't think I'm going to bother with it anymore.

 

On top of that, you can only research the top turret after that insane gun grind for an extra 14,500 xp. Until then you're basically using the butter IS turret that can be penned through the front/mantlet by everything.


Edited by Solexi, 19 January 2018 - 09:46 PM.





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