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hasnainrakha57 #1 Posted 20 January 2018 - 03:07 PM

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Can i have all my xp and credits spent on obj268 back?

ihateclowns #2 Posted 20 January 2018 - 04:35 PM

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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 20 January 2018 - 02:07 PM, said:

Can i have all my xp and credits spent on obj268 back?

 

​Why? You get to keep your obj 268. The 263 is what got demoted

Lorien #3 Posted 20 January 2018 - 04:36 PM

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that would be nice... its in no way a reasonable replacement for the 263... turning like whale.. and the gun is even more inaccurate then the deathstare (missed 7 out of 8 shots at 400m).. its garbage and no fun

Dava_117 #4 Posted 20 January 2018 - 04:41 PM

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View PostLorien, on 20 January 2018 - 04:36 PM, said:

that would be nice... its in no way a reasonable replacement for the 263... turning like whale.. and the gun is even more inaccurate then the deathstare (missed 7 out of 8 shots at 400m).. its garbage and no fun

 

At least the gun is working as intended for an assault gun.



Lorien #5 Posted 20 January 2018 - 05:05 PM

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View PostDava_117, on 20 January 2018 - 03:41 PM, said:

 

At least the gun is working as intended for an assault gun.

 

that would be true if you wouldnt also miss shots under 100m aiming for weakspots... and you have only 650 alpha and 13 secs reload.. and as i said.. its slow turning.. also the armor ist only good to ruin the day of tier8 and 9.. as soon as the enemy tier 10 tabs the 2 key your armor is useless.. got pent in the upper plate und upper structure couple of times, even from heavies... so you can "assault" with low dpm, low alpha (for a td), unrealible gun, non working armor and a tank without turret, that cant really turn... if this is your defintionen of fun.. its clearly a tank for you..

i liked the 263.. it had a working gun that you could use while advancing.. and it could turn to defend itself.... the obj 264 4 has nothing of it... so the tank i farmed for (and in liked) gets replaced with something i definitely dont like.. and thats why i can understand hasnainrakha57 when he is asking for a refund (although i am pretty sure wargaming doenst care)


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dacorny #6 Posted 20 January 2018 - 05:09 PM

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it has what 1° less turn ratio with 19.95 HP per ton and you call that think a whale, the lack of mobility is so small and you get for it a close tank better side armour.

Dava_117 #7 Posted 20 January 2018 - 05:16 PM

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View PostLorien, on 20 January 2018 - 05:05 PM, said:

 

that would be true if you wouldnt also miss shots under 100m aiming for weakspots... and you have only 650 alpha and 13 secs reload.. and as i said.. its slow turning.. also the armor ist only good to ruin the day of tier8 and 9.. as soon as the enemy tier 10 tabs the 2 key your armor is useless.. got pent in the upper plate und upper structure couple of times, even from heavies... so you can "assault" with low dpm, low alpha (for a td), unrealible gun, non working armor and a tank without turret, that cant really turn... if this is your defintionen of fun.. its clearly a tank for you..

i liked the 263.. it had a working gun that you could use while advancing.. and it could turn to defend itself.... the obj 264 4 has nothing of it... so the tank i farmed for (and in liked) gets replaced with something i definitely dont like.. and thats why i can understand hasnainrakha57 when he is asking for a refund (although i am pretty sure wargaming doenst care)

 

Agree on this. IMO, 263 should stay at T10. The real assault gun line should be the 268 line. A nerf in cammo, a buff in turn rate and gun handling an it would be fine, while leaving to 263 the role of low alpha, high DPM support TD.

Balc0ra #8 Posted 20 January 2018 - 05:23 PM

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View PostLorien, on 20 January 2018 - 04:36 PM, said:

that would be nice... its in no way a reasonable replacement for the 263... turning like whale.. and the gun is even more inaccurate then the deathstare (missed 7 out of 8 shots at 400m).. its garbage and no fun

 

Did we play the same one? The new tier X is agile, and the reverse speed was rather good too. DPM is the only thing that's crap about it tbh. And the hull armor only works if you use a ridge line. Even the 263 is more nippy one tier down, tho lost lots o dpm to.

 

View PostDava_117, on 20 January 2018 - 05:16 PM, said:

 

Agree on this. IMO, 263 should stay at T10. The real assault gun line should be the 268 line. A nerf in cammo, a buff in turn rate and gun handling an it would be fine, while leaving to 263 the role of low alpha, high DPM support TD.

 

The 263 was the only tank I tested that did bounce all the 340 HEAT pen rounds better then even the HT's. I do see what WG meant about the armor working better one tier down. As the 122-54 never bounced anything. Tho the new tier X TD needs to done it down in a few areas if they want that on tier 9 instead. Tbh I liked the 263 on tier 9. Kinda..... Not gonna lie. I do like the 122-54 to, but only due to the looks. It's not got much else going for it.



Lorien #9 Posted 20 January 2018 - 05:34 PM

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View Postdacorny, on 20 January 2018 - 04:09 PM, said:

it has what 1° less turn ratio with 19.95 HP per ton and you call that think a whale, the lack of mobility is so small and you get for it a close tank better side armour.

 

are you using the values of the tier9 263? my tier 10 263 has 35,86° turnrate, the 268 4 has 26,41°.. and it feels really slugish.. 

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View PostBalc0ra, on 20 January 2018 - 05:23 PM, said:

The 263 was the only tank I tested that did bounce all the 340 HEAT pen rounds better then even the HT's. I do see what WG meant about the armor working better one tier down. As the 122-54 never bounced anything. Tho the new tier X TD needs to done it down in a few areas if they want that on tier 9 instead. Tbh I liked the 263 on tier 9. Kinda..... Not gonna lie. I do like the 122-54 to, but only due to the looks. It's not got much else going for it.

 

Yes, but now there are no more differences between the 2 TD lines, except that 268 now is pretty useless because of bad turn rate, bad armour and bad accuracy.

Before you had a support line (and if SU-122-54 don't fit, you can just swap it) and an assault gun line. Now you have 2 assault gun line with the ex 236 line powercreeping 268 line.



hasnainrakha57 #11 Posted 20 January 2018 - 05:41 PM

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My point is 268 is way more useless now.268v4 got good armor and high mobilty with good relode time.268 is now way more useless missing shots with 0.33 accuracy with paper armor.Just think a player decides to grind for soviet td ofcourse he will go for 268v4 because it is way more better then 268.obj263 was cool tank it never needed to be replaced.Only they had to do was tune 268.Thats why i cry for grinding obj 268!

Edited by hasnainrakha57, 20 January 2018 - 05:42 PM.


brumbarr #12 Posted 20 January 2018 - 05:46 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 20 January 2018 - 05:23 PM, said:

 

Did we play the same one? The new tier X is agile, and the reverse speed was rather good too. DPM is the only thing that's crap about it tbh. And the hull armor only works if you use a ridge line. Even the 263 is more nippy one tier down, tho lost lots o dpm to.

 

 

The 263 was the only tank I tested that did bounce all the 340 HEAT pen rounds better then even the HT's. I do see what WG meant about the armor working better one tier down. As the 122-54 never bounced anything. Tho the new tier X TD needs to done it down in a few areas if they want that on tier 9 instead. Tbh I liked the 263 on tier 9. Kinda..... Not gonna lie. I do like the 122-54 to, but only due to the looks. It's not got much else going for it.

 

The current 263 turn way faster than the 268 V4,  33 degrees compared to 23.

The 263 armor was always fine, it was the best armour in the game when you can hide that lower plate. The armor always worked, so I have no clue why WG think it didnt work. And the SU 122 54 could have just been buffed, so thats no real argument.






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