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Poll: about 9.22 changes (185 members have cast votes)

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What do you think will happen with Obj 268 v4 before release

  1. Nothing at all (117 votes [63.24%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 63.24%

  2. General buffs (32 votes [17.30%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 17.30%

  3. General nerfs (23 votes [12.43%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 12.43%

  4. Removal (the old 263 line will stay) (13 votes [7.03%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.03%

What would you like to see happen with the Obj 268 v4 line before release

  1. Nothing at all (53 votes [28.65%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 28.65%

  2. General buffs (24 votes [12.97%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 12.97%

  3. General nerfs (31 votes [16.76%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 16.76%

  4. Removal (the old 263 line will stay) (77 votes [41.62%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 41.62%

What do you think will happen with the obj 705A line before release

  1. Nothing at all (134 votes [72.43%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 72.43%

  2. General buffs (21 votes [11.35%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 11.35%

  3. General nerfs (25 votes [13.51%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 13.51%

  4. Removal (5 votes [2.70%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.70%

What would you like to see happen with the Obj 705A line before release

  1. Nothing at all (65 votes [35.14%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 35.14%

  2. General buffs (20 votes [10.81%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.81%

  3. General nerfs (67 votes [36.22%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 36.22%

  4. Removal (33 votes [17.84%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 17.84%

What do you think will happen with Obj 430U before release

  1. Nothing at all (129 votes [69.73%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 69.73%

  2. General buffs (15 votes [8.11%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.11%

  3. General nerfs (32 votes [17.30%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 17.30%

  4. Removal (back to having the old Obj 430 as the T10). (9 votes [4.86%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.86%

What would you like to see happen with the Obj 430U before release?

  1. Nothing at all (60 votes [32.43%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 32.43%

  2. General buffs (15 votes [8.11%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.11%

  3. General nerfs (72 votes [38.92%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 38.92%

  4. Removal (back to having the old Obj 430 as the T10). (38 votes [20.54%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 20.54%

What do you think will happen with the Obj 257 before release

  1. nothing at all (111 votes [60.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 60.00%

  2. General buffs (15 votes [8.11%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.11%

  3. General nerfs (46 votes [24.86%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 24.86%

  4. Removal (tech tree will be as it is now). (13 votes [7.03%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.03%

What would you like to see happen with the obj 257 before release?

  1. Nothing at all (40 votes [21.62%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 21.62%

  2. General buffs (15 votes [8.11%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.11%

  3. General nerfs (66 votes [35.68%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 35.68%

  4. Removal (tech tree will be as it is now). (64 votes [34.59%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 34.59%

Are you currently looking forward to the 9.22 patch release?

  1. 1: Not at all (the patch should never hit the live servers). (74 votes [40.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 40.00%

  2. 2 (7 votes [3.78%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.78%

  3. 3 (14 votes [7.57%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.57%

  4. 4 (12 votes [6.49%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.49%

  5. 5 (20 votes [10.81%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.81%

  6. 6 (8 votes [4.32%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.32%

  7. 7 (12 votes [6.49%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.49%

  8. 8 (12 votes [6.49%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.49%

  9. 9 (4 votes [2.16%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.16%

  10. 10: Very much (possibly the best WG patch in a long time, and really what the game needs). (22 votes [11.89%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 11.89%

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ZlatanArKung #1 Posted 21 January 2018 - 05:22 PM

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Lets vote about what the general forumite think about the 9.22 patch and the biggest changes.

G01ngToxicCommand0 #2 Posted 21 January 2018 - 05:27 PM

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We should all sell all non Soviet vehicles and play glorious Soviet tanks only and the game will be perfectly balanced!:izmena:

Balc0ra #3 Posted 21 January 2018 - 05:32 PM

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Tier 9 263 needs a ROF buff if it stays, mobility nerf is fine as armor is the same. Tier X is fine tbh. 705's are "meh" unless you sidescrape. Stock 705 turret needs a fix. 256 needs to tone down the angle on the V hull and remove the hidden hitboxes that is spaced armor you can't see and it's fine. As it's not really that strong head on vs the hype vs normal ammo even. Tho considering you play vs only tier 9's and X... that are all Russian. It's kinda hard to say anything specific.

Edited by Balc0ra, 21 January 2018 - 05:33 PM.


Jigabachi #4 Posted 21 January 2018 - 05:39 PM

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I stopped caring about those things entirely. They dished out so much obviously detrimental nonsense that I simply prefer to just wait for the updates to go live, hoping that it won't fork up too much. That said: "Couldn't care less" option is missing in the poll.

soul3ater #5 Posted 21 January 2018 - 05:40 PM

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obj 430 the tier 9 now sucks really hard. 248 gold ammo pen is a joke. 

fighting_falcon93 #6 Posted 21 January 2018 - 05:50 PM

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My opinion of 9.22 in TL;DR format:

 

- Obj.263 should get back to tier 10.

- Obj.263 branch should get some buffs where needed to make it a more attractive grind.

- Obj.268V4 should get either removed or less armor on its lower front plate.

- Obj.430U is nice, but too powerfull and it has stolen 121's role.

- Obj.257 should get either removed or less rediculous side armor.

- Tiger I model (new) should keep its track armor on the lower front plate and the track armor should count to the armor model.


Edited by fighting_falcon93, 21 January 2018 - 05:50 PM.


bitslice #7 Posted 21 January 2018 - 06:00 PM

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Actually I'm most pissed at all the boring "Obj" names, I'll never keep track of which tank is which.

leggasiini #8 Posted 21 January 2018 - 06:05 PM

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TD line needs to be rethought entirely. Basically, since the 2nd TD line is a mess anyway:

 

- make the 268 V4 a tier 10, add the 268 V2 (a very similar vehicle) at tier 9 before it; the SU-101 leads to the 268 V2

- keep the 263 at tier 10; buff the gun arc, HP pool and depression

- buff accuracy and DPM of the 268 V4 a bit, 

- make the 268 V4 lead to either the 263 or 268 V4, give the 268 V2 option for either 152 or 130

- make SU-122-54 tier 9, make it lead to a new tier 10 that is similar to it, probably add tier 8 and even 7 before it that are similar (some weirdass version of SU-122-44 at tier 8?)

- or alternatively make the SU-122-54 a tier 9 reward vehicle and buff it

 

Now you got - "sniper" (Object 268, while it is supposedly a sniper its kinda...wonky), pure assault tank (268 V4) and hybrid (263).

 

Rear turret branch needs mobility nerfs; they are way too fast for something with that much armor, and at the case of tier 8 and 10, slight LFP nerf. Top speed down to 30 on all of them and HP/ton down on tier 10 as well. However, some of the gun stats could see a little buffs in return to make them bit more comfortable and fun to play; 0.44 base accuracy on a tier 10 heavy is just utter aids.

 

430 seems balanced IMO, needs a slight gold ammo buff and thats about it. 430U needs a nerf, though. Its not easy to nerf however - nerf the hull armor and becomes essentially a (still superior) clone of the 121. IMO, make the cupolas weakspots (hardly makes the armor worse because if the tank wiggles they are almost impossible to hit; see 113 and obj 140), and nerf the mobility. The tank is essentially a HT and even IRL was designated to be "a medium tank that is as heavy tank as possible". Make it act like a heavy tank as well - we got HTs that acts like mediums, so how about a medium that acts like a heavy?

 

Object 257 is utterly broken and not balanceable at all due to its side armor profile.



brumbarr #9 Posted 21 January 2018 - 06:13 PM

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I dont see how anyone can think the obj257 needs buffs or that this patch is the best patch ever, how can they be anything but trolls?

MrEdweird #10 Posted 21 January 2018 - 06:17 PM

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Don't see anything about the new tier X after the T-10, but imo it should not be the quite mediocre, tier 9 level 777-II, but rather the 277 or 770.

ZlatanArKung #11 Posted 21 January 2018 - 06:23 PM

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View Postbrumbarr, on 21 January 2018 - 06:13 PM, said:

I dont see how anyone can think the obj257 needs buffs or that this patch is the best patch ever, how can they be anything but trolls?

You can see who votes for what. 

And then you will see that one of those who vote for best patch ever is jabster, which answers your question.



mortalsatsuma #12 Posted 21 January 2018 - 06:31 PM

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I just don't see at this point how people cannot see how biased this game is towards Russian tanks. True, not every Russian tank is broken/OP but this entire patch may as well just be renamed the 'Russian Bias' patch. I mean, from playing them on test server and the general consensus amongst the community, the OBJ 430U is just way too good and outright replaces certain competitors at tier 10 and the OBJ 257 is straight up broken specifically with its armour model which means up close, which is where this thing should be as a Russian Ht, you cannot de-track and damage it. 

 

I mean the OBJ 257s side armour makes the IS-3s BS side armour look weak, and I own a T-10 so i'll get one of these when the patch goes live and I still want to see it heavily nerfed.

 

I mean if you thought fighting tier 10s in tier 8s is bad now, have fun fighting things like the obj 430U in a TVP VTU (Though tbf, that thing does rock against defenders) or having to fight OBJ 257s in tier 7 tanks.... 


Edited by mortalsatsuma, 21 January 2018 - 06:33 PM.


jabster #13 Posted 21 January 2018 - 07:02 PM

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View Postbrumbarr, on 21 January 2018 - 05:13 PM, said:

I dont see how anyone can think the obj257 needs buffs or that this patch is the best patch ever, how can they be anything but trolls?

 

And I don’t see how anyone creates polls on this forum thinking they have any particular relevance. That’s just me though.

brumbarr #14 Posted 21 January 2018 - 07:04 PM

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View Postjabster, on 21 January 2018 - 07:02 PM, said:

 

And I don’t see how anyone creates polls on this forum thinking they have any particular relevance. That’s just me though.

Who says it has to be relevant? This whole forum is irrelvant, the whole game is irrelevant. I dont see how that justifies trolling a well made poll.



jabster #15 Posted 21 January 2018 - 07:12 PM

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View Postbrumbarr, on 21 January 2018 - 06:04 PM, said:

Who says it has to be relevant?

 

So you think the OP didn’t create this poll thinking the result would be relevant then?



fighting_falcon93 #16 Posted 21 January 2018 - 07:23 PM

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View Postbrumbarr, on 21 January 2018 - 07:04 PM, said:

Who says it has to be relevant? This whole forum is irrelvant, the whole game is irrelevant. I dont see how that justifies trolling a well made poll.

 

Jabster always trolls polls. It's just him in his natural habitat, being a complete ------. He goes by the excuse that the forum doesn't represent the playerbase... You know in his mind all players with a specific opinion decided to join the forums, the rest of them didn't want to, so therefore he made the conclusion that polls on the forum are invalid and irrelevant. And instead of just ignoring the poll, he still clicks on the damn options and votes like a true ------.



Dava_117 #17 Posted 21 January 2018 - 07:36 PM

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View Postfighting_falcon93, on 21 January 2018 - 05:50 PM, said:

My opinion of 9.22 in TL;DR format:

 

- Obj.263 should get back to tier 10.

- Obj.263 branch should get some buffs where needed to make it a more attractive grind.

- Obj.268V4 should get either removed or less armor on its lower front plate.

- Obj.430U is nice, but too powerfull and it has stolen 121's role.

- Obj.257 should get either removed or less rediculous side armor.

- Tiger I model (new) should keep its track armor on the lower front plate and the track armor should count to the armor model.

Those track neve gave armour to tiger LFP. 

But I would gladly sacrifice them to avoid the new shabby model...



Homer_J #18 Posted 21 January 2018 - 07:46 PM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 21 January 2018 - 05:23 PM, said:

You can see who votes for what. 

And then you will see that one of those who vote for best patch ever is jabster, which answers your question.

 

And Q-pranger voted for the patch not to go live.

 

Strangely he didn't endorse your post with a like though.



Aikl #19 Posted 21 January 2018 - 07:54 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 21 January 2018 - 06:46 PM, said:

 

And Q-pranger voted for the patch not to go live.

 

Strangely he didn't endorse your post with a like though.

 

Rather strange indeed, though he might not realize he can still 'like' posts despite being banned.



Long_Range_Sniper #20 Posted 21 January 2018 - 08:20 PM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 21 January 2018 - 05:23 PM, said:

You can see who votes for what. 

And then you will see that one of those who vote for best patch ever is jabster, which answers your question.

 

I've never thought that there was ever more than a 1% chance of anything we say on the forum making a difference to Wargaming. Some polls are useful to me as a player though to benchmark what I think against other players.

 

I've had a good few games on the test server today, and even taking into account test server lemming tactics and full premium, it's been a heavy armour bouncefest!

 

If Wargaming release that much armour into the game at higher tiers all at once then you have to question why? This isn't "just" a new tank. It's a whole host of new tanks and each and every one is literally a gold mine.

 

Is it any wonder we have the x3 and 35% promotions on at the same time as the test server to get us all to spend that gold we have sitting from the loot boxes on free XP ready to blow it all on the 705A.

 

I'm re-assured to see my views are reasonably in line with most forumites. I don't think they should bin the patch, but I question the need for so many tanks all at once. Removing the T-10 and putting in the 257 (which leave the T-10 totally in its wake) would have been enough.






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