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A2Tobbas #1 Posted 24 January 2018 - 09:29 PM

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Idk how long I have been asking for this, but premium vehicles (Liberte, Defender, Skorpion G and E 25) Needs a serious nerf. I don't understand why WG would add overpowered vehicles for money? When the advent calendar was happening I said that they will add the E 25, and Skorpion G again. Just for the money. I'm never using a single penny more on this game. Just because of how unfair this is. Nerf them HARD. Send me a message WG if you think I am wrong, and let me know why. Because 95% of the players will think I am right :)

commer #2 Posted 24 January 2018 - 09:33 PM

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Liberte doesn't really need nerfing. I'd argue Lowe is as good. 

divsmo #3 Posted 24 January 2018 - 10:50 PM

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It'll never happen. Those tanks are pretty much the wg cash cow, stick them on sale once in a while and watch the money roll in. Not to mention the stink it would cause if they nerfed them

Slyspy #4 Posted 24 January 2018 - 11:02 PM

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There is the question of refunding thousands of players should the vehicles be nerfed. Defender is the only one I have an issue with. 

Derethim #5 Posted 24 January 2018 - 11:10 PM

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View Postcommer, on 24 January 2018 - 09:33 PM, said:

Liberte doesn't really need nerfing. I'd argue Lowe is as good. 

 

Lowe is better. More Alpha, better armor.

View PostSlyspy, on 24 January 2018 - 11:02 PM, said:

There is the question of refunding thousands of players should the vehicles be nerfed. Defender is the only one I have an issue with. 

 

He's right about all of them, all of them are/were OP, but got powercreeped by even more OP tanks. And those OP tanks will get powercreeped even more by the next ones... and so on.

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View PostSlyspy, on 24 January 2018 - 11:02 PM, said:

There is the question of refunding thousands of players should the vehicles be nerfed. Defender is the only one I have an issue with. 

 

Will those of limited conception realize how much money WG would have to refund?
Any nerf would legally need refund there only option is powercreep and not sure if the game has got the space.
Its a really dumb question and that is from someone with my nickname! 
Plus to be honest there are not that OP even the defender needs above average players to be OP and time for its DPM.

Edited by DumbNumpty, 24 January 2018 - 11:12 PM.


FluffyRedFox #7 Posted 24 January 2018 - 11:10 PM

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View PostA2Tobbas, on 24 January 2018 - 09:29 PM, said:

 Because 95% of the players will think I am right :)

Did you know that 76% of all facts are made up on the spot?



Balc0ra #8 Posted 24 January 2018 - 11:25 PM

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View PostA2Tobbas, on 24 January 2018 - 09:29 PM, said:

Idk how long I have been asking for this, but premium vehicles (Liberte, Defender, Skorpion G and E 25) Needs a serious nerf. I don't understand why WG would add overpowered vehicles for money? When the advent calendar was happening I said that they will add the E 25, and Skorpion G again. Just for the money. I'm never using a single penny more on this game. Just because of how unfair this is. Nerf them HARD. Send me a message WG if you think I am wrong, and let me know why. Because 95% of the players will think I am right :)

 

Liberete? Not really. Tho tbh it's bascially how the normal tier 8 should have been vs the 65t they have now. And buy the E25 first. Then you will notice you won't do 3K damage in it each game. As camo and 150 pen will only get you that far. It's good, but far from OP in the super heavy meta we are in now. It's the most situational tank I own. Even tho it has the old pre nerf TD camo and view range.

 

But I'm sure WG will nerf then, if you cover their losses on the backlash. As you were not around then they nerfed the T26E4 and did see how well that went. That's why they don't nerf premiums anymore. It's the same reason why your Type 64 still is balanced for the old scout MM, and was not nerfed for the + 2 it has now.


Edited by Balc0ra, 24 January 2018 - 11:25 PM.


TheWarrener #9 Posted 25 January 2018 - 07:50 AM

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Never gonna happen.

ZlatanArKung #10 Posted 25 January 2018 - 09:46 AM

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Personally I think all the tank changes made within last 16 months or something should get reverted.

arthurwellsley #11 Posted 25 January 2018 - 09:53 AM

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View PostA2Tobbas, on 24 January 2018 - 08:29 PM, said:

 Because 95% of the players will think I am right :)

 

You are WRONG.

Proud to be one of the 5%.

 

WG will not nerf premiums because in the EU Digital Consumer protection regulations cover these type of transactions, and if WG nerfed pixels that people had paid real money for, WG would be compelled to offer a refund. WG is now legally a Cyprus company and so covered by EU regulation.



Draz_H #12 Posted 25 January 2018 - 09:55 AM

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View PostA2Tobbas, on 24 January 2018 - 08:29 PM, said:

Because 95% of the players will think I am right :)

 

No. No they won't.



commer #13 Posted 25 January 2018 - 10:00 AM

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View PostDerethim, on 24 January 2018 - 11:10 PM, said:

 

Lowe is better. More Alpha, better armor.

 

 

​That's my thinking but some people prefer the Liberte. No idea why but they do

MrGimpSuit #14 Posted 25 January 2018 - 10:01 AM

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No

 

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Homer_J #15 Posted 25 January 2018 - 10:05 AM

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View PostA2Tobbas, on 24 January 2018 - 08:29 PM, said:

Idk how long I have been asking for this, but premium vehicles (Liberte, Defender, Skorpion G and E 25) Needs a serious nerf.

I guess you don't own any of them then.



HidesHisFace #16 Posted 25 January 2018 - 10:10 AM

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WG currently employs this absolutely dumb policy that premium vehicles CAN'T be nerfed, only buffed - it is a result, among other, of a massive outrage over Type59 massive nerfs and Super Pershing overnerfing a long time ago.

This fuels powercreep that is already rampant in this game but there is nothing we can truly do about it.

The only way prems can be nerfed is through global changes, but even that is not guaranteed (E-25 is a prime example, as it never received a global nerf to camo after firing).


Edited by HidesHisFace, 25 January 2018 - 10:10 AM.


Cobra6 #17 Posted 25 January 2018 - 10:14 AM

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The problem is that the AMX M4 49 should have been the regular tier 8 tank in the techtree and the AMX65 should have been a premium. The AMX65 does not fit the line at all while the AMX M4 49 fits it like a glove, but WG knew the AMX65 was going to be crapso they made the proper tank (49) a premium in a cynical money-grubbing move they are now renowned for.

 

That being said, they should just stop selling these premiums, nerfing is not an option.

 

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View PostCobra6, on 25 January 2018 - 10:14 AM, said:

The problem is that the AMX M4 49 should have been the regular tier 8 tank in the techtree and the AMX65 should have been a premium. The AMX65 does not fit the line at all while the AMX M4 49 fits it like a glove, but WG knew the AMX65 was going to be crapso they made the proper tank (49) a premium in a cynical money-grubbing move they are now renowned for.

 

That being said, they should just stop selling these premiums, nerfing is not an option.

 

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WG didn't know crap. You can easily balance the AMX65 by not giving it crapground resistances and giving it great gun handling on the 120mm. Then the tank would be good no problem

HidesHisFace #19 Posted 25 January 2018 - 11:10 AM

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View Postcommer, on 25 January 2018 - 10:52 AM, said:

 

WG didn't know crap. You can easily balance the AMX65 by not giving it crapground resistances and giving it great gun handling on the 120mm. Then the tank would be good no problem

 

WG did know - these vehicles WERE technically in game files for years, before first HD models were even in game. They were actually hyped like crazy at one point, appearing in trailers and such.

 

Making prems that fit the line is not unusual anyway - look at Skorpion G - it actually fits the line more than Borsig - every other tank of this line is based off a hull of pre-existing vehicle, EXCEPT Borsig, which is completely custom.



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View PostHidesHisFace, on 25 January 2018 - 11:10 AM, said:

 

WG did know - these vehicles WERE technically in game files for years, before first HD models were even in game. They were actually hyped like crazy at one point, appearing in trailers and such.

 

Making prems that fit the line is not unusual anyway - look at Skorpion G - it actually fits the line more than Borsig - every other tank of this line is based off a hull of pre-existing vehicle, EXCEPT Borsig, which is completely custom.

 

They were in the game but they didn't realize the 65t was crap. If they did it would be stronger. 




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